Coronavirus

Timberrrrrrrr

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Rattle a few chains!

Corbett published a 4 part series about Gates.

How Bill Gates Monopolized Global Health

Another youtube dump, what's pertinent to this? Timestamps to the important parts please.

Cheerful Spring2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Another youtube dump, what's pertinent to this? Timestamps to the important parts please.

Its for viewing, not segments pulled from it. It's for people to watch in its entirely to see if the claims add up
The first 2 minutes is a fascinating insight to the type of personality he has.

The Nal

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Its for viewing, not segments pulled from it. It's for people to watch in its entirely to see if the claims add up
The first 2 minutes is a fascinating insight to the type of personality he has.

Translate that as - Cheerful has only watched the first two minutes

Timberrrrrrrr

The Nal wrote: »

Translate that as - Cheerful has only watched the first two minutes

I watched the 1st 2 minutes, it tells you nothing about Gates nor does it give any sort of "fascinating insight to the type of personality he has."

The Nal

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I watched the 1st 2 minutes, it tells you nothing about Gates nor does it give any sort of "fascinating insight to the type of personality he has."

I retract my earlier comment about Cheerful only watching two minutes of the video. Just looked at the first 3 minutes and its apparent that Cheerful hasn't watched any of the video.

What a time waster

The Nal

Good old Bill for his part just brushes off the stupidity and moves on.

Cheerful Spring2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I watched the 1st 2 minutes, it tells you nothing about Gates nor does it give any sort of "fascinating insight to the type of personality he has."

The US government sued Microsoft for breaking anti-trust laws in 1998 and the lawyer on the government side in the deposition asked Gates- what other browsers competing against Microsoft were you concerned about? (simple question) Gates pretended to not understand the lawyer question. Gates played the dumpy card (confused look) and acted like he done nothing wrong, and it shows, does not care about the rule of law and will never say sorry for his actions. Gates Microsoft lost the court battle and the ruling at the time Microsoft was an illegal monopoly and was broken up into a two part entity.

Gates now monopolised the healthcare system worldwide instead through the Bill and Melinda foundation, and used his vast wealth, to fund small and large pharma companies, and provided grants to health care bodies, and profited from the products and services they provided to the public. The Foundation also owns a percentage of the assets of the companies they invested in over the last decade.

Gates is the second largest donor to the WHO with the United States at number one. Dr Fauci research was backed by Gates in the past and there is a conflict of interest, and any vaccine, that will emerge, will have Gates stamp of approval on it. Gates paid off people in newspapers and those involved in global media to provide him with good public image press and told them to not print negative stories about him.

Gates is not one of the most generous men on earth. He actually is two times richer today then he was a decade ago (stats provided). He's lost none of his wealth. The Foundation is not a charitable organisation like the press claims, it has a dual function , and is profiting, off the assets and when grants are given. Money is not given away for free for nothing- the foundation earning in return. Foundation trust is profiting from health. No surprise, the media is promoting him as the new face for the covid-19 vaccine. This what I took from the first part of the series.

My position
I don’t believe Gates leaked covid-19 to profit from it and allegations are not made here in the first video. My personal own believe is an accident occurred inside one of the labs in China. The lab studied bat coronavirus diseases. The lab in Wuhan was partly funded by US scientists, and this was a dual project probably funded by the WHO?

Ipso

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Rattle a few chains!

Corbett published a 4 part series about Gates.

How Bill Gates Monopolized Global Health

Oh no, only four parts. I never realized that global health was monopolized.

The Nal

Ipso wrote: »

Oh no, only four parts. I never realized that global health was monopolized.

Its not. Clearly. Cheerful just copied and pasted the title of the video. A video he hadn't even watched.

Its incredible stuff.

Cheerful Spring2

Ipso wrote: »

Oh no, only four parts. I never realized that global health was monopolized.

Snide post again by Ipso.

I not anti- vaccine supporter. There is an obvious health benefits here, and Vaccines have prevented diseases and helped people who are sick.

When you’re a critic of Bill Gates you assumed to be anti vaccine person, this is the ridiculous debunker mindset.

Overheal

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Snide post again by Ipso.

I not anti- vaccine supporter. There is an obvious health benefits here, and Vaccines have prevented diseases and helped people who are sick.

When you’re a critic of Bill Gates you assumed to be anti vaccine person, this is the ridiculous debunker mindset.

I don't see where you were called an anti vaxxer for sharing this youtube link. You'd jumped to a lot of conclusions there.

Cheerful Spring2

Overheal wrote: »

I don't see where you were called an anti vaxxer for sharing this youtube link. You'd jumped to a lot of conclusions there.

Many debunkers link the two online I have seen it. When you dislike Bill Gates you are against vaccine treatment. Of course some people in the conspiracy world are anti- vaccine and use the face of Bill Gates to promote their own agenda online. You end up seeing both sides battle it out on twitter and other forums of discussion.

The Nal

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Many debunkers link the two online I have seen it. When you dislike Bill Gates you are against vaccine treatment. Of course some people in the conspiracy world are anti- vaccine and use the face of Bill Gates to promote their own agenda online. You end up seeing both sides battle it out on twitter and other forums of discussion.

No one mentioned vax/anti vax.

This is just deflection from you posting a video that you clearly hadn't watched yourself and saying "The first 2 minutes is a fascinating insight to the type of personality he has" when it does nothing of the sort.

Overheal

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Many debunkers link the two online I have seen it. When you dislike Bill Gates you are against vaccine treatment. Of course some people in the conspiracy world are anti- vaccine and use the face of Bill Gates to promote their own agenda online. You end up seeing both sides battle it out on twitter and other forums of discussion.

But nobody did it here, in this thread, so it's a strange thing for you to get upset about on a personal level.

Overheal

Twitter botnet discovered by researchers

The botnet is making up half of all accounts discussing the topic.

https://www.themarysue.com/coronavirus-army-of-bots/

Emme

Overheal wrote: »

Twitter botnet discovered by researchers

The botnet is making up half of all accounts discussing the topic.

https://www.themarysue.com/coronavirus-army-of-bots/

Is this publication a sister or cousin of the Onion? The longer economies go without opening the greater the damage will be. I cannot understand why anybody would be a fan of lockdowns and curfews unless of course they want to live in a dictatorship. Have you enjoyed living in this kind of environment for the last few months? A lot of it is some people don't want to get off their backsides and actually work again. That's their choice but the free money won't last forever.

BTW I am a real person, not a bot

Dohnjoe

Emme wrote: »

Is this publication a sister or cousin of the Onion?

It's being reported on elsewhere

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bots-account-for-nearly-half-of-twitter-accounts-spreading-coronavirus-misinformation-researchers-say/

And frankly it's unsurprising, e.g. Russia has been uncovered running literal troll factories for spreading disinformation/sowing division on social media

The longer economies go without opening the greater the damage will be.

Everyone knows this, and no one "wants" the lockdown, but leaving an economy more open (e.g. Brazil) risks overwhelming the health system. A second wave could easily see lockdown measures returning.

Then there are the idiots

Ipso

Emme wrote: »

Is this publication a sister or cousin of the Onion? The longer economies go without opening the greater the damage will be. I cannot understand why anybody would be a fan of lockdowns and curfews unless of course they want to live in a dictatorship. Have you enjoyed living in this kind of environment for the last few months? A lot of it is some people don't want to get off their backsides and actually work again. That's their choice but the free money won't last forever.

BTW I am a real person, not a bot

Do you think economies would operate normally with a much higher death rate?

Dohnjoe

£340 anti 5G USB key

A device costing more than £300 promises to protect your family from the supposed dangers of 5G, using ground-breaking quantum technology - but does it work? Of course not.

But, at first sight, it seems to be just that - a USB key, with just 128MB of storage.

"So what's different between it and a virtually identical 'crystal' USB key available from various suppliers in Shenzhen, China, for around £5 per key?" asks Ken Munro, whose company, Pen Test Partners, specialises in taking apart consumer electronic products to spot security vulnerabilities.

And the answer appears to be a circular sticker.

"Now, we're not 5G quantum experts but said sticker looks remarkably like one available in sheets from stationery suppliers for less than a penny each," he says.

Mr Munro and his colleague Phil Eveleigh proceeded to dismantle the USB key to find out if there were any whizz-bang electronics inside.

lol

ohnonotgmail

Dohnjoe wrote: »

£340 anti 5G USB key





lol

a sucker born every minute

4068ac1elhodqr

Dohnjoe wrote: »

£340 anti 5G USB key
lol

Not sure what's that got to do with the WuFlu? Maybe you're just bored and hence burping up funny cartoons and random blurb for your own kicks, on a nice sunny day.

AFAIK maybe only 1 person on this entire site has suggested 5g causes the flu, even for Icke, it's all bit far-fetched.

Anyway... FYI the sticker is supposed to be a universal EMF blocker (not designed specifically for 5G, lol). Does it work, most likely not.

Best idea would be to pick one up (not this one, it's just a sticker). But a better example of a negative-ion producing field, maybe a slab of shungite.

One of the best selling EMF field reducers appears to be the Q-link. Does it work?
No idea won't be spending 99$ to find out, and don't have an EMF meter at hand. Sure give it a go yourself and report back:
https://www.amazon.com/Q-Link-Acrylic-SRT-3-Pendant-Blue/dp/B004D2AM4K/ref=sr_1_74?dchild=1&keywords=EMF+Blocker&qid=1590669135&sr=8-74

On the plus side, folks with 'no fear of EMF exposure' can pick up very cheap (sucker) houses, just search for one directly underneath a pylon (the ones that light up unplugged flouresent tubes, when held aloft in hand under such pylons). Or houses right beside electic sub-stations (the type that hums, and makes you hair on arms stand up when you walk past). Win, win! Makes you wonder why nobody wants them.

Anyways, time now for the lunchtime sunshine and VitD accumulation!

Dohnjoe

Alena Tangy Someone wrote: »

Not sure what's that got to do with the WuFlu?

There are a scary number of people who think 5G causes Coronavirus (e.g. a recent poll showed one in eight Australians)

Those types of people gravitate to places like this, perhaps it's good if instead of finding validation, they find straight forward info

It's sunny? who knew, apparently most of us on this forum live in basements drinking pepsi

Dohnjoe

Poll shows 28% of Americans believe that Bill Gates wants to use vaccines against Covid19 to implant microchips in people. Rising to 44% among Republicans

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/05/26/republicans-democrats-misinformation

Depressing as hell

4068ac1elhodqr

100% of drama scream queens, believe that the BillGates funded 'Quantum Dot Tattoo' is actually a 'microchip processor', like a big whirling shinny computer or something.




Full-time paid for counter theorists, funny lefty biased paid-for polls, even 'so called' proper 'truth' sites, are always keen on pushing the narrative: that many think Gates is intent on 'chipping' people (for dramatic effect), so they can counter this dramatic viewpoint of nonsense. {Although he has done actually this before for birth control, it was on a limited scale}.

Pleae kids, finish school if you can, a simple 'quantum dot tattoo' is exactly that (it's not really a big aul computer chip, is it now, lols).

GetWithIt

Dohnjoe wrote: »

£340 anti 5G USB key
l

What I loved most about this story was the price point. They know their market.

The Nal

This guy is great. Hes been saying the NWO lockdown takeover police state type thing is happening in the next few weeks for years now. 11 years as he says himself.

Never happens, so this time was just a dry run apparently! Gas craic.

King Mob

The Nal wrote: »

Never happens, so this time was just a dry run apparently! Gas craic.

How many dry runs are they going to need?

The Nal

King Mob wrote: »

How many dry runs are they going to need?

According to him maybe Covid 20, 21 or 22. "When they switch the flick on the 5G."

So "enjoy the time we have now", apparently.

Also....

5G being rolled out in New Zealand throughout 2019/2020 and a lot of it in the last 4 months.... but...

Covid-free New Zealand: There are now ZERO active Covid-19 cases in the country

How can that be?!

FFVII

5G starves the oxygen molecule from the air....

I didn't know that...

FFVII

The Nal wrote: »

According to him maybe Covid 20, 21 or 22. "When they switch the flick on the 5G."

So "enjoy the time we have now", apparently.

Also....

5G being rolled out in New Zealand throughout 2019/2020 and a lot of it in the last 4 months.... but...

Covid-free New Zealand: There are now ZERO active Covid-19 cases in the country

How can that be?!

When they tweak the GHz you get covid 20.

4068ac1elhodqr

Very unlikely to be any lockdown in any meaningful sense, anywhere in the US
Unless there is a WuhanL4-esq mutation leading to a much more potent strain, come winter.

Still, this is all catered for anyway thanks to their recent Bill
(US)Bill 'H.R. 6666' 'The COVID-19 Testing, Reaching, And Contacting Everyone (TRACE) Act'
$100,000,000,000 is readily available as of now to track, trace and quarantine anyone suspected of having the wuflu.

What will happen if this COVID Wave1 suddenly dissipates into a weaker mutation as it appears to be doing,
will the hundreds of millions/billions that the Phara industry (and others) has invested suddenly all be washed down the drain?
Can't imagine their stakeholders looking forward to any meaningful end of year dividends...

Cheerful Spring2

Bret Weinstein now convinced the virus leaked due to an incident in a lab. Explains why in this quick clip. The science seems to show that hypothesis correct.

Dohnjoe

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Bret Weinstein now convinced the virus leaked due to an incident in a lab. Explains why in this quick clip. The science seems to show that hypothesis correct.

"We still don't know, it is possible this came from the wild without human meddling" - he doesn't sound very convinced

Also he's a biologist. Several of the world's top virologists, who have direct hands-on with the virus in labs are increasingly convinced it came from animal-human transmission, e.g. Dr. Danielle Anderson

Not as exciting or "sexy" as the lab leak theory, so less appealing for some, especially for the audience on the Joe Rogan show.

The Nal

Belief That 5G Causes COVID-19 Linked to Violence, Anger and Paranoia

This association was strongest for those with the highest levels of paranoia. These patterns also emerged from questions about general conspiracy theories and violence, leading the authors to believe their findings could relate to these beliefs more widely, not just in regards to COVID-19 and 5G.

splashuum

Leading Viroligist Bergit Sorensen 90% sure the virus was man made and that’s it’s the “most logical” answer.

“I think it’s more than 90 percent certain. It’s at least a far more probable explanation than it having developed this way in nature”, Sørensen responds.
Sørensen also highlights other data than those related to the virus’ properties:
“The properties that we now see in the virus, we have yet to discover anywhere in nature. We know that these properties make the virus very infectious, so if it came from nature, there should also be many animals infected with this, but we have still not been able to trace the virus in nature”

https://www.minervanett.no/a/361860

splashuum

splashuum wrote: »

Leading Viroligist Bergit Sorensen 90% sure the virus was man made and that’s it’s the “most logical” answer.

“I think it’s more than 90 percent certain. It’s at least a far more probable explanation than it having developed this way in nature”, Sørensen responds.
Sørensen also highlights other data than those related to the virus’ properties:
“The properties that we now see in the virus, we have yet to discover anywhere in nature. We know that these properties make the virus very infectious, so if it came from nature, there should also be many animals infected with this, but we have still not been able to trace the virus in nature”

https://www.minervanett.no/a/361860

The study didn't get through peer review... So it doesn't matter how much of a leading virologist you claim she is, she failed to backup her claims.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2020/06/07/controversial-coronavirus-lab-origin-claims-dismissed-by-experts/#6e7155f68f61

splashuum

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The study didn't get through peer review... So it doesn't matter how much of a leading virologist you claim she is, she failed to backup her claims.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2020/06/07/controversial-coronavirus-lab-origin-claims-dismissed-by-experts/#6e7155f68f61

The CIA and MI6 seem to agree with Sorensen.

splashuum

splashuum wrote: »

The CIA and MI6 seem to agree with Sorensen.

Erm no they don't. Care to backup what you just said? US intelligence have dismissed and a former mi6 director making a claim doesn't amount to mi6 saying it.

mouldybiscuits

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Erm no they don't. Care to backup what you just said? US intelligence have dismissed and a former mi6 director making a claim doesn't amount to mi6 saying it.

Even if they CIA and MI6 did make such a claim how could anyone possibly take them seriously when they have a history of fabricating lies to gain support for war.

Dohnjoe

It's not impossible that it was leaked from a lab, but currently the scientific consensus on the evidence is that it that this virus was originally transmitted from animals. For some people that isn't "sexy" enough, so they search for any scientific individuals that may support something, anything else.

Cheerful Spring2

Dohnjoe wrote: »

"We still don't know, it is possible this came from the wild without human meddling" - he doesn't sound very convinced

Also he's a biologist. Several of the world's top virologists, who have direct hands-on with the virus in labs are increasingly convinced it came from animal-human transmission, e.g. Dr. Danielle Anderson

Not as exciting or "sexy" as the lab leak theory, so less appealing for some, especially for the audience on the Joe Rogan show.

It's commonsense the virus leaked probably from a lab if they can’t find the strain in nature. There're signals/signs in the genome that suggest human tampering . These changes are extremely rare in natural viruses. This is what convinced Bret here and the other scientists he talked with a lab leak is likely the correct explanation.. Some scientists are just brave to feature that now in science papers.

Its not a wild thought either since it now common knowledge there was a coronavirus disease lab in Wuhan. A leak from a lab would make the virus more transferable to humans in the surrounding area than the suggested method someone eat the wrong animal one day that no scientist can identify 100 percent here.

Cheerful Spring2

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It's commonsense the virus leaked probably from a lab if they can’t find the strain in nature. There're signals/signs in the genome that suggest human tampering . These changes are extremely rare in natural viruses. This is what convinced Bret here and other scentists he talked with a lab leak is likely the correct explanation.. Some scientists are just brave to feature that now in science papers.

Its not a wild thought either since it now common knowledge there was a coronavirus disease lab in Wuhan. A leak from a lab would make the virus more transferrable to humans in the surrounding area than the suggested method someone eat the wrong animal one day that no scientist can identify 100 percent here.

Eh, viruses are discovered more regularly than any species. So the fact they haven't found it in nature does not mean it does not exist in nature. It's simply they haven't found it as the origin is likely in the middle of nowhere.

Finding excuses for none of the claims getting through peer review is more an indication of how weak your argument is. I also tend to defer to the cdc, who and scientific journals rather than your virology expertise.

Cheerful Spring2

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh, viruses are discovered more regularly than any species. So the fact they haven't found it in nature does not mean it does not exist in nature. It's simply they haven't found it as the origin is likely in the middle of nowhere.

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Yes, and that mostly likely what happened here. They encountered some bat like disease in a remote corner area of China or Africa?. They later took it to the lab and worked on it.
They then enhanced and boosted in a lab to allow it to pass to human beings more easily. They made it more dangerous with the tampering. If the scientists found this virus in nature, some of the new changes would not be present.

I don’t think is a conspiracy to believe a lab leak is correct when the epicentre close by to a B4 virus lab known to be testing viruses found in bats. Early days it was reported no bats were sold in the Wuhan wet market, so that makes the case for a outbreak there unlikely.

Cheerful Spring2

Deleted User wrote: »

The study didn't get through peer review... So it doesn't matter how much of a leading virologist you claim she is, she failed to backup her claims.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2020/06/07/controversial-coronavirus-lab-origin-claims-dismissed-by-experts/#6e7155f68f61

This should show up elsewhere in the animal community, its a logical statement from him. Sorenson highlighting the virus seems to have been engineered to be more transferrable to human beings instead.

The properties that we now see in the virus, we have yet to discover anywhere in nature. We know that these properties make the virus very infectious, so if it came from nature, there should also be many animals infected with this, but we have still not been able to trace the virus in nature”

Cheerful Spring2

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Yes, and that mostly likely what happened here. They encountered some bat like disease in a remote corner area of China or Africa?. They later took it to the lab and worked on it.
They then enhanced and boosted in a lab to allow it to pass to human beings more easily. They made it more dangerous with the tampering. If the scientists found this virus in nature, some of the new changes would not be present.

I don’t think is a conspiracy to believe a lab leak is correct when the epicentre close by to a B4 virus lab known to be testing viruses found in bats. Early days it was reported no bats were sold in the Wuhan wet market, so that makes the case for a outbreak there unlikely.

Eh, thing is viruses are regularly picked up in remote areas via things like hunting or capturing animals to sell in wet markets. You've sought out research that couldn't get through peer review but validates your opinion. So your evidence is by definition weak if it can't get through peer review.

I also can't imagine a wet market in Wuhan is particularly likely to be closely tracking what they do or don't sell. It is also very much a conspiracy when centers for disease control in both Europe and the US don't view it as man-made.

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

This should show up elsewhere in the animal community, its a logical statement from him. Sorenson highlighting the virus seems to have been engineered to be more transferrable to human beings instead.

The strain of the siv virus that transmitted to humans was only identified in 1999.

Cheerful Spring2

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh, thing is viruses are regularly picked up in remote areas via things like hunting or capturing animals to sell in wet markets. You've sought out research that couldn't get through peer review but validates your opinion. So your evidence is by definition weak if it can't get through peer review.
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Did you not read the article? They published the paper in a respected journal.

The authors of a British-Norwegian vaccine study—accepted by the Quarterly Review of Biophysics—claim that the coronavirus's spike protein contains sequences that appear to be artificially inserted.

Cheerful Spring2

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Did you not read the article? They published the paper in a respected journal.

The published version that passed peer reviewed does not claim it's man made. The rejected versions made the claim. Fact check below and you can check the draft linked to in the Forbes article, it never says it was man made.

https://fullfact.org/health/richard-dearlove-coronavirus-claims/

Cheerful Spring2

Deleted User wrote: »

The published version that passed peer reviewed does not claim it's man made. The rejected versions made the claim. Fact check below and you can check the draft linked to in the Forbes article, it never says it was man made.

https://fullfact.org/health/richard-dearlove-coronavirus-claims/

What rejected version?

Again.

The authors of a British-Norwegian vaccine study—accepted by the Quarterly Review of Biophysics—claim that the coronavirus's spike protein contains sequences that appear to be artificially inserted.

Artifically inserted sequences here means there was a man made manipulation. In the age of Trump context seems to changed to suit ones bias about a subject. This fact checking site and forbes clearly have an agenda.

4068ac1elhodqr

Certainly not outside the realm of possibility, or even probability.

Think WuhanL4 had at one stage had something like x400 live bats inhouse, for COVID R&D.
If the bins were overflowing with used/expired goods, a Porter or the even waste collection service,
may well of went down the road to a nearby wetmarket for a few extra Yuan in the pocket.

Cheerful Spring2

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

What rejected version?

Again.


Artifically inserted sequences here means there was a man made manipulation. In the age of Trump context seems to changed to suit ones bias about a subject. This fact checking site and forbes clearly have an agenda.

Firstly the article references how versions didn't pass peer review with multiple journals. Open the draft of it that the Forbes article is linking to. Find a reference to artificial sequences. There isn't any... That's what they submitted. The claim was made in an interview, not in the published article.