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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    But you haven't giving us any insight what so ever i.e. Are largely useless.
    Maybe even a ball-park percentage then, aside from your 'later this year'?

    Or:

    Maybe even 'paint a picture' so to speak (n.b. this will be a real struggle for you, as it isn't a simple linear mental process): as to what main daily changes will have occured when(ever) any type of normalisation occurs.
    / Or maybe just make a lol joke instead!

    Again....exactly you are saying is:
    1) You don't know how this virus started.
    2) You don't know when it will end.

    3). Also, you don't have a clue (or any ideas to even suggest) if it will get better or worse in the meantime, and you can't account for any likely consequences. (hence all the one-liners).

    It's clear to see you're largely useless at any type of speculation or even any estimates. As your natural environment is sitting in the corner shouting a bitter 'no' to everyone and anything else (i.e. the easy option).

    Why not go and shout at the clouds instead, if your purpose here is null?

    i think it is fair to say that you are excellent at speculation. Unfortunately none of it has any basis in reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    i think it is fair to say that you are excellent at speculation. Unfortunately none of it has any basis in reality.
    That's you're (unproven subjective speculation).
    Excellent at using information, skill and knowledge to offer predictions and future foresight? Perhaps.

    Unless you have an actual future time-machine, you can't prove otherwise.
    The easiest (and less cerebral option) is to shout 'no' to everyhting, which leads to inaction.

    That is the very nature of it.
    That is the reason weather 'forecasters' get paid very well, stock traders, and policy makers, fx traders and even professional/leisure gamblers.
    Get it right, even just 51% of the time, and it's more gains than pains.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,891 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    That is the very nature of it.
    That is the reason weather 'forecasters' get paid very well, stock traders, and policy makers, fx traders and even professional/leisure gamblers.
    Get it right, even just 51% of the time, and it's more gains than pains.

    Are you trying to compare conspiracy predictions and bible prophecies with the weather forecast?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    My bad, should I be validating the different theories and prophecies in here?
    The real question is whether or not you have any ability yourself, and calculated foresight, any considered opinion or calulations, other than shout 'no' to everyting

    Think we know the answer to that:
    I.e. Largely 'useless': question everything, offer nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    That's you're (unproven subjective speculation).
    Excellent at using information, skill and knowledge to offer predictions and future foresight? Perhaps.

    Unless you have an actual future time-machine, you can't prove otherwise.
    The easiest (and less cerebral option) is to shout 'no' to everyhting, which leads to inaction.

    That is the very nature of it.
    That is the reason weather 'forecasters' get paid very well, stock traders, and policy makers, fx traders and even professional/leisure gamblers.
    Get it right, even just 51% of the time, and it's more gains than pains.

    im not sure i would class the bible as a good source of information


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Are you trying to compare conspiracy predictions and bible prophecies with the weather forecast?


    Are you trying to sat the weather forecasters, don't use a level of forecasting?
    A prediction of sorts, that may only be vagely correct a small majority of the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Are you trying to sat the weather forecasters, don't use a level of forecasting?
    A prediction of sorts, that may only be vagely correct a small majority of the time.

    are you trying to compare the predictions of the met office with what you post here? LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    im not sure i would class the bible as a good source of information
    Sure, it's simply one interesting angle or aspect, there are of course many other seperate complimentary sources to it however.

    2019: Locust plages, pestilance (pandemic), great fires, destructiuon of damascus, etc etc
    Who would 'ave thought!


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,891 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Are you trying to sat the weather forecasters, don't use a level of forecasting?
    A prediction of sorts, that may only be vagely correct a small majority of the time.

    LOL

    Weather forecasting relies on actual science

    Biblical prophecies rely on people imagining something based on a book they read

    You don't see a glaring difference there, or would you class that as a minor difference?


  • Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭Fleetwoodmac


    Agree some of the results of this now appearing are fascinating, even if considered as a social experiement.
    As said previously if it wasn't a) fluke of nature b) accidential release, the 3rd option is not related to any specific single country (not East vs West), but something larger, global.

    What has already happened:

    i) The near end of cash based transactions, going to the shops? take your chipped card or applepay, after all you don't want dirty money.

    ii) The move to UBI, big corp, and stoppage of small dynamic enterprise. The uk alone said that circa 1m small businesses, sole traders and freelancers might go bust within weeks. There is also wave2 on the way in Novemeber, so this is not temporary by any means.

    iii) Trauma based mind influnence (not control, but push-persuasion). As well as having to account for your actions when outdoors, the latest push in uk is the NHSX tracking App (using Bluetooth & beacons {like RFID}).
    - To search your phone's contacts, and to warn others if you approach them within 30meters, if having reported a bit of a fever. It will also track and store all your movements. If you later take ill, it will contact anyone you've been in close (bluetooth) proximity to.

    And all under the banner of keeping society safe. The establishment of hotlines in UK and US, encouraging people to report their neighbours should they breach these new regulations is a worrying one and is fraught with the likelihood of being abused. We, perhaps all know one or two curtain twitching neighbours who would thrive in stasi role play.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Sure, it's simply one interesting angle or aspect, there are of course many other seperate complimentary sources to it however.

    2019: Locust plages, pestilance (pandemic), great fires, destructiuon of damascus, etc etc
    Who would 'ave thought!

    can you quote the bible passage that mentions 2019?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    are you trying to compare the predictions of the met office with what you post here? LOL
    Are you trying to say they don't use a level of 'prediction'?

    Sure we all use available data, models, insight, skill or knowledge but on top of all this there is always the final element or concept of prediction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Are you trying to say they don't use a level of 'prediction'?

    Sure we all use available data, models, insight, skill or knowledge but on top of all this there is always the final element or concept of prediction.

    their models are the predictors. data goes in, the predictions goes out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    can you quote the bible passage that mentions 2019?
    Regardless of the times we're living in, can you deny it mentions:

    Locust plages, pestilance (pandemic), great fires, destructiuon of damascus.
    Even the bit about buying and selling using an aul swipe of the hand is uncanny stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    And all under the banner of keeping society safe. The establishment of hotlines in UK and US, encouraging people to report their neighbours should they breach these new regulations is a worrying one and is fraught with the likelihood of being abused. We, perhaps all know one or two curtain twitching neighbours who would thrive in stasi role play.
    One concern would be when the time comes when dumb phones are simply not availble to buy. The shops will only supply smartphones.

    With that, you might get a pre-installed .gov type App, much like China.
    The new one from NHSX is fairly creepy, with constant bluetooth tracking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Regardless of the times we're linving in, can you deny it mentions:


    Locust plages, pestilance (pandemic), great fires, destructiuon of damascus.
    Even the bit about buying and selling using an aul swipe of the hand is uncanny stuff.

    uncanny indeed. can you quote the passsage that mentions all of those at the same time? and is this the first time that we have had all of those in the same year? even regarding damascus this isnt the first time in history that damascus was destroyed. and it didnt happen in 2019. it started 6 years ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,891 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Regardless of the times we're linving in, can you deny it mentions:


    Locust plages, pestilance (pandemic), great fires, destructiuon of damascus.
    Even the bit about buying and selling using an aul swipe of the hand is uncanny stuff.

    Just to get this straight, you think the bible predicts the future?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Just to get this straight, you think the bible predicts the future?

    of course they do. its uncanny stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    uncanny indeed. can you quote the passsage that mentions all of those at the same time? and is this the first time that we have had all of those in the same year? even regarding damascus this isnt the first time in history that damascus was destroyed. and it didnt happen in 2019. it started 6 years ago.
    Is Damascus still in a 'destroyed state', yes it appears to be.


    So yes, all these things exist at the same time, and within the same year. There are currently 3500 people in Sweden (where else!) that pay using RFID impants in their hands. Not to mention many corporates that 'offer' it to their employees. This didn't exist even 10yrs ago in any meaningful way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Is Damascus still in a 'destroyed state', yes it appears to be.


    So yes, all these things exist at the same time, and within the same year. There are currently 3500 people in Sweden (where else!) that pay using RFID impants in their hands. Not to mention many corporates that 'offer' it to their employees. This didn't exist even 10yrs ago in any meaningful way.

    so quote the bible passage that mentions all of those things happening concurrently. i'm sure it wwill be very clear and not at all open to interpretation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Just to get this straight, you think the bible predicts the future?
    Who knows, it's interesting none the less.

    One thing we get straight, is that you haven't made a single prediction or insight of any use or interest. Ie. Largely useless or pointless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    so quote the bible passage that mentions all of those things happening concurrently. i'm sure it wwill be very clear and not at all open to interpretation.
    You'll have to read it yourself, you might even surprise yourself.
    Consider it as lockdown homework for the pandemic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Anyway boys and girls, have things to do.
    Be sure to turn off your smartphones if nipping outdoors (unlikely), at any time!


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,405 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    You'll have to read it yourself, you might even surprise yourself.
    Consider it as lockdown homework for the pandemic.

    why should anybody else do your homework for you? i dont biblical end times nonsense really has a place in CT. it brings down the tone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,891 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    You'll have to read it yourself, you might even surprise yourself.
    Consider it as lockdown homework for the pandemic.

    This is for real? you are suggesting another poster should read the whole bible in order to "find" the part that you are suggesting predicts .. what, RFID chips in Sweden?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Lonesomerhodes


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    From your predictions, you know, the whole we're going to be living in martial law fascist hellholes after this..

    When Ireland returns to normal, what will your play be? claiming it was all a "trial run" I think would be a good one, that way you can salvage something while still claiming that all this fascist Rothchild stuff is "just about to happen any day now"

    My play. Salvage something? Erm this isnt a wild west duel or shoot out pal simply people discussing opinions whats with all the Shakesperean over the top language?.

    So

    One must salvage some sembelance of pride whilst making his play that will define faith itself.


    You need to chill.Gonna give yourself a hernia!.

    Its simply differing opinions mine yours anyones dont matter not one jot. Just thoughts swirling around will share every now and then.

    Its bonkers to me people invest so much in their opinion when it doesnt mean anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The importance you put into opinions and being right is truly extraodinary I dare say unhealthy.

    Ultimately it doesnt matter whether Im right or wrong why would it?

    To think an opinion on a online forum means anything well that person isnt all there you know.
    A few sandwiches short of a picnic.

    Agree with this, which arises the suspisions that DoeJoe is a full-time sponsored (perhaps even paid) conformists of some sort. 24/7 available (along, or in identical terms with KingMob), day after day, even hour after hour, to dispell anything they don't like.

    Years and years of putting down anything and everything on the CT.

    They've just been busier than usual of late, due to ye olde pandemic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Agree with this, which arises the suspisions that DoeJoe is a full-time sponsored (perhaps even paid) conformists of some sort. 24/7 available (along, or in identical terms with KingMob), day after day, even hour after hour, to dispell anything they don't like.

    Years and years of putting down anything and everything on the CT.

    They've just been busier than usual of late, due to ye olde pandemic.

    Mod

    If you have reason to believe anyone is a paid sponsor, please PM a mod and we will have a look. Do not continually throw accusations, which are plain to see, are completely unfounded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    All Digital ID posts have been moved to a new thread. Please use this for any discussion on this topic.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=113027733#post113027733


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭auspicious


    Here's a 2yo video that may send your antennae in to a spin ( apologies if my choice of words offends anyone ;) ).

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D81S3A4gm48&t=140s


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