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Chicken Fillet Rolls ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,654 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Had a lovely one this week in Whitehall.

    First one in about 5 years I'd say


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is this the new equivalent of the breakfast roll, for people who think it's less fattening because it's chicken?

    Nope. It’s more of a lunch time thing.

    Unless you’ve a raging hangover of course. Then a chicken roll, bag of Keogh’s, and bottle of Pepsi is manna.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Beaks and feet minced lads.beaks and feet.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Had the difficult decision this morning of Chicken Fillet roll or Breakfast roll...

    After much pondering went with the former.

    I don't regret my decision :)

    My initial thought is to combine both.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭mags1962


    Worked in a Deli for years and have no problem putting anything a Customer wants on a CF Roll provided they are prepared to pay for it.
    You want a Fresh Cooked Irish Chicken Fillet in your Roll then no problem, but are you willing to pay for it? €3 for that alone before you even add a Roll.
    Where do you think the rest of the Chicken goes if you only want the Fillets?
    Irish Chicken Farmers and Producers deserve a fair price for their product, what about the cost to put a coating on it, the cost of cooking, the staff that cook and serve it also need to be paid, the shop has to pay rent and rates, insurance etc.
    Even the reformed chicken has all these costs but there is a limit to what fits on a Roll and if the CF Roll says 3 fillings then 3 it is and anybody that tries to bully a kid into putting on more needs to look at themselves.
    If more of the owners and managers were willing to bar these idiots the better. greedy b'stards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Beaks and feet minced lads.beaks and feet.

    MMM,crunchy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Mod

    It is the chicken that should be heated, not the discussion here. Few posts deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    You have never worked in a deli or shop I take it, I’d say they hate seeing you walk in the door, it’s as bad as taking out your coins in a big que and count them on the counter instead of being ready and put it into their(cashiers )hand, I also think it’s greedy but that’s just me.

    In my delis days, we all knew the greedy fuckers who took the piss. Thing is, they got away with it because we couldn’t really tell them when enough was enough. They knew that and exploited it. But were known as greedy fuckers. And there wasn’t that many of them. Definitely less than five out of our lunch regulars.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    In my delis days, we all knew the greedy fuckers who took the piss. Thing is, they got away with it because we couldn’t really tell them when enough was enough. They knew that and exploited it. But were known as greedy fuckers. And there wasn’t that many of them. Definitely less than five out of our lunch regulars.

    How is it greedy getting what you want on your roll, I never heard such nonsense.

    Like one of the delis I go into has 5 fillings for 3.95 as one of its standard rolls. I go there 2 or 3 times a week for a hot chicken roll and it’s always made fast and easily, no issues.

    I can’t believe the cheek of some people who don’t appear to want to do the job they are paid for, make me the sandwich I want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    How is it greedy getting what you want on your roll, I never heard such nonsense.

    Like one of the delis I go into has 5 fillings for 3.95 as one of its standard rolls. I go there 2 or 3 times a week for a hot chicken roll and it’s always made fast and easily, no issues.

    I can’t believe the cheek of some people who don’t appear to want to do the job they are paid for, make me the sandwich I want.

    I and another former deli worker are telling you our experience. By the way, I’ve never known of any deli where you can get endless fillings.

    But okay, say a standard roll is meat + two salads for €3.99. Or whatever price. You don’t think there should be a limit on the amount of each of those salads? Or the meat? You should you be able to get as much of each as you want? The Tom Green sketch posted earlier in the thread is an exaggerated version but shows how ridiculous the notion is.

    Most people employ common sense and realise that there is a limit. But, like I said, there are the pisstakers who don’t and know well what they are doing. And if they’re regulars, they will be known by the staff and it will be commented upon (amongst staff) and there’s not much they can do about it. Well, they could be less greedy but that probably won’t happen.

    And like I said, most people weren’t greedy so the greedy people really distinguished themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭skinny90


    No butter, mayo and lettuce is the only way, 4.20 is average with or without extras within reason,A well run deli can have up to 55% profit margin

    A well run deli should be making A lot more than 55 % charging 4.20.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    I and another former deli worker are telling you our experience. By the way, I’ve never known of any deli where you can get endless fillings.

    But okay, say a standard roll is meat + two salads for €3.99. Or whatever price. You don’t think there should be a limit on the amount of each of those salads? Or the meat? You should you be able to get as much of each as you want? The Tom Green sketch posted earlier in the thread is an exaggerated version but shows how ridiculous the notion is.

    Most people employ common sense and realise that there is a limit. But, like I said, there are the pisstakers who don’t and know well what they are doing. And if they’re regulars, they will be known by the staff and it will be commented upon (amongst staff) and there’s not much they can do about it. Well, they could be less greedy but that probably won’t happen.

    And like I said, most people weren’t greedy so the greedy people really distinguished themselves.

    Bingo !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    skinny90 wrote: »
    A well run deli should be making A lot more than 55 % charging 4.20.

    That’s simply a naive statement, and completely wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭H.20v3


    Bingo !

    Please don't say Bingo to make a point

    It's really annoying


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    I and another former deli worker are telling you our experience. By the way, I’ve never known of any deli where you can get endless fillings.

    But okay, say a standard roll is meat + two salads for €3.99. Or whatever price. You don’t think there should be a limit on the amount of each of those salads? Or the meat? You should you be able to get as much of each as you want? The Tom Green sketch posted earlier in the thread is an exaggerated version but shows how ridiculous the notion is.

    Most people employ common sense and realise that there is a limit. But, like I said, there are the pisstakers who don’t and know well what they are doing. And if they’re regulars, they will be known by the staff and it will be commented upon (amongst staff) and there’s not much they can do about it. Well, they could be less greedy but that probably won’t happen.

    And like I said, most people weren’t greedy so the greedy people really distinguished themselves.

    I’ve never got a roll with only meat and 2 salads, sure that’s only half a sandwich. I expect to be able to get as many salads as I want and not pay extra. Not as much of any salad as I want but as many as I want. I’ve very rarely if ever paid any more than 4.50 for a roll and generally it’s around 4 euro.

    Naturally if you get more fillings you get a bit less of each, that’s fine but charging for extra fillings is madness they cost so little compared to the price you are paying for the roll.

    People don’t appear to want to do their job, luckily I don’t encounter these as any of the places I frequent (multiples time’s per week) put on everything I want, have a chat and a laugh etc as I’m a regular none of this awful customer service some want to promote.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    H.20v3 wrote: »
    Please don't say Bingo to make a point

    It's really annoying

    Bingo


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    I’ve never got a roll with only meat and 2 salads, sure that’s only half a sandwich. I expect to be able to get as many salads as I want and not pay extra. Not as much of any salad as I want but as many as I want. I’ve very rarely if ever paid any more than 4.50 for a roll and generally it’s around 4 euro.

    Naturally if you get more fillings you get a bit less of each, that’s fine but charging for extra fillings is madness they cost so little compared to the price you are paying for the roll.

    People don’t appear to want to do their job, luckily I don’t encounter these as any of the places I frequent (multiples time’s per week) put on everything I want, have a chat and a laugh etc as I’m a regular none of this awful customer service some want to promote.

    Not to your face but look maybe your deli is unique, but I’ve worked in over 20 of them and I can honestly tell you what I’ve said is true, you don’t ask a Barman to put a pint in a glass


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Not to your face but look maybe your deli is unique, but I’ve worked in over 20 of them and I can honestly tell you what I’ve said is true, you don’t ask a Barman to put a pint in a glass

    i have received a lot more mean and stingy rolls from delis than i have witnessed customers asking for extra fillings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    i have received a lot more mean and stingy rolls from delis than i have witnessed customers asking for extra fillings.

    I doubt you’ve monitored it that closely. Whereas somebody who has worked in a deli has seen a lot.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I’ve never got a roll with only meat and 2 salads, sure that’s only half a sandwich. I expect to be able to get as many salads as I want and not pay extra. Not as much of any salad as I want but as many as I want. I’ve very rarely if ever paid any more than 4.50 for a roll and generally it’s around 4 euro.

    Naturally if you get more fillings you get a bit less of each, that’s fine but charging for extra fillings is madness they cost so little compared to the price you are paying for the roll.

    People don’t appear to want to do their job, luckily I don’t encounter these as any of the places I frequent (multiples time’s per week) put on everything I want, have a chat and a laugh etc as I’m a regular none of this awful customer service some want to promote.

    Aaaah, like I said, deli staff will usually oblige. But they absolutely know who the greedy ones are amongst the regulars. Maybe you aren’t one of them but they exist, believe me. In the end, it doesn’t really matter because the customer gets what they want. They probably don’t care what the staff thinks of them.

    And can I just say, for front-line service staff, there nothing worse than the “I’m a regular here” customer. Yeah, you and a whole other pile of people. You’re not special. People can’t grasp that the world doesn’t revolve around them. Being a regular is the standard for delis, not the exception.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,039 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    fullstop wrote: »
    Are you taking about the breaded fillets on these deli counters? If so, they’re usually whole muscle, not reconstituted meat. The diced chicken will be what you’re talking about.

    Dream on. You’re paying a couple of quid, you are not getting anything close to that sort of “meat”.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    i have received a lot more mean and stingy rolls from delis than i have witnessed customers asking for extra fillings.

    Rolls and their contents are predetermined as has been said above for margin, when you ask for way more the server could get in trouble, I know I managed delis for years why would I lie ! Anyway I don’t want a row I’m just telling you from a delis perspective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭H.20v3


    Rolls and their contents are predetermined as has been said above for margin, when you ask for way more the server could get in trouble, I know I managed delis for years why would I lie ! Anyway I don’t want a row I’m just telling you from a delis perspective.

    What kind of trouble?


    Can u lettuce know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Dream on. You’re paying a couple of quid, you are not getting anything close to that sort of “meat”.

    I know, I can’t get over people thinking it’s pure, unreconstituted chicken breast. Sure you can even tell by the texture. I buy goujons made with proper chicken strips from my butcher and occasionally buy crappy goujons from the supermarket. The difference is very obvious. The crappy one have a breadcrumb-y sort of texture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Rolls and their contents are predetermined as has been said above for margin, when you ask for way more the server could get in trouble, I know I managed delis for years why would I lie ! Anyway I don’t want a row I’m just telling you from a delis perspective.

    thats fair enough. im not talking about an average roll. i have received numerous times rolls that would be well below average ,

    i know the staff can get in trouble. somone i know locally used to work in a petrol station chain and told me that if they put anything extra in the roll it would be docked from the wages.

    asking for extra in a roll is wrong but asking fora decent amount is not


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    I doubt you’ve monitored it that closely. Whereas somebody who has worked in a deli has seen a lot.

    your right . to a point anyway. i havnt noticed it much at all. maybe thats me not seeing it rather than it not happening. the skimpy rolls are very real though. you cant say i didnt see that happening, it happens to me ocasionally


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    your right . to a point anyway. i havnt noticed it much at all. maybe thats me not seeing it rather than it not happening. the skimpy rolls are very real though. you cant say i didnt see that happening, it happens to me ocasionally

    I have no doubt. To be honest, greediness isn’t commonplace either which is why it sticks out so badly. Most people have a good sense of what is enough.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    thats fair enough. im not talking about an average roll. i have received numerous times rolls that would be well below average ,

    i know the staff can get in trouble. somone i know locally used to work in a petrol station chain and told me that if they put anything extra in the roll it would be docked from the wages.

    asking for extra in a roll is wrong but asking fora decent amount is not

    Yes agreed, and I managed statoil and shell petrol stations with a deli so I know the trade inside out, not anymore but I know it’s still the same, all the meat ect is weighed as part of their shift stock take


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I can't believe people being paid an hourly wage care so much about the odd customer asking for extra toppings, it's nothing to the worker except laziness that they're to do an extra scoop of whatever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I can't believe people being paid an hourly wage care so much about the odd customer asking for extra toppings, it's nothing to the worker except laziness that they're to do an extra scoop of whatever.

    It’s not laziness. I’m repeating myself but the deli worker will pretty much always oblige so I don’t how that constitutes laziness. But they’ll note to themselves the greediness and if the boss is floating around, they might get in trouble too, the lowly paid staff member.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭H.20v3


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I can't believe people being paid an hourly wage care so much about the odd customer asking for extra toppings, it's nothing to the worker except laziness that they're to do an extra scoop of whatever.

    Must have nothing to think about if they're bothered by this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    It’s not laziness. I’m repeating myself but the deli worker will pretty much always oblige so I don’t how that constitutes laziness. But they’ll note to themselves the greediness and if the boss is floating around, they might get in trouble too, the lowly paid staff member.

    It's definitely an attitude problem then so. The rules are usually outlined about how much you can get,if the customer wants more the staff member can show the customer a sign and price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    It's definitely an attitude problem then so. The rules are usually outlined about how much you can get,if the customer wants more the staff member can show the customer a sign and price.

    They do that if they can.

    An attitude problem? Having a laugh with fellow employees about a greedy customer? We were mostly just amused by their gluttony. If we served them politely, I don’t see that constitutes an attitude problem. But they couldn’t control what we thought of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭mags1962


    The problems begin when the shop, who is the arbiter of exactly what and how much is allowed, doesn't communicate this effectively to either staff or customers so everybody is clear from the start.


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    I have no doubt. To be honest, greediness isn’t commonplace either which is why it sticks out so badly. Most people have a good sense of what is enough.

    Expecting to get a decent sandwich that fills you up is not greedyness. On the other hand calling a meat and 2 salads an acceptable sandwich is pure stingy on behalf of the shop.

    No where I regularly request as any indication of such a low amount, intact most places don’t have any set amounts at all bar one place which as 5 fillings for 3.95 plus a drink as one of their offers. No matter where I go I get pretty much the same thing on my roll: (alternate between mayo and butter) Hot spicy chicken, coleslaw, egg, onion, tomato and cheese. If a place has jalepenos night get them too instead of something I listed, same if there are pickles. This is what I ask for in cafes, deli etc and as a paying customer who wants a decent sandwich I expect it to be made without complaint.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭H.20v3


    Can the mods close this thread now

    I've learnt all I need to know about chicken rolls, further discussion is superfluous to my needs


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    H.20v3 wrote: »
    Can the mods close this thread now

    I've learnt all I need to know about chicken rolls, further discussion is superfluous to my needs

    Maybe others what to keep discussing it? You didn’t even start the thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭H.20v3


    Maybe others what to keep discussing it? You didn’t even start the thread.

    You're being greedy again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Thank God the schools are back tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I thought that sort of meat waste went into pet food


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭H.20v3


    Gael23 wrote: »
    I thought that sort of meat waste went into pet food

    Mostly animals at these deli counters snyhow


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    H.20v3 wrote: »
    Mostly animals at these deli counters snyhow

    What high class location do you go to for your lunch?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Expecting to get a decent sandwich that fills you up is not greedyness. On the other hand calling a meat and 2 salads an acceptable sandwich is pure stingy on behalf of the shop.

    No where I regularly request as any indication of such a low amount, intact most places don’t have any set amounts at all bar one place which as 5 fillings for 3.95 plus a drink as one of their offers. No matter where I go I get pretty much the same thing on my roll: (alternate between mayo and butter) Hot spicy chicken, coleslaw, egg, onion, tomato and cheese. If a place has jalepenos night get them too instead of something I listed, same if there are pickles. This is what I ask for in cafes, deli etc and as a paying customer who wants a decent sandwich I expect it to be made without complaint.

    There is a line that crosses over into greediness. I have no idea if you cross that line, but if you do, it’s been noted. Without doubt. You’ve talked about being a regular. Well, that’s the thing with regulars, things about them get noted. If you think staff don’t ever comment amongst themselves about different customers, bless.

    Again, any good staff will make the sandwich without complaint. But they might think you a glutton. And since the thought police don’t exist, there’s not a whole lot you can do about that. And hopefully they don’t get in trouble with their boss over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Can someone clear up what's considered greedy?

    Subway - asking for all the vegetables?

    Asking for onion then asking for a bit more?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Gael23 wrote: »
    I thought that sort of meat waste went into pet food

    Only the finest meat slurry goes into chicken fillet rolls and subway meats. Altogether a better class of meat slurry than they use in making pet food.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Can someone clear up what's considered greedy?

    Subway - asking for all the vegetables?g

    Asking for onion then asking for a bit more?

    People who ask for everything in subway is number one, like I said earlier you don’t try and fit a pint into a glass, also, don’t put your hands on the glass surrounding the hot food ! Otherwise meat and two veg is the norm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Paid €4.15 for a small roll with just chicken fillet and mayonnaise in my local garage earlier.

    Thats a bit of a rip off. My local spar does a large roll and can of coke for €4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Can someone clear up what's considered greedy?

    Subway - asking for all the vegetables?

    Asking for onion then asking for a bit more?

    A few yardsticks - amounts being one. Like getting five salads is fine. It depends on how much you ask for of each. It’s visual, I guess.

    Or we had one guy who came in and really blatantly took the piss. He got away with it by being the only one that bad so we just let him away with it. It wasn’t worth saying anything for one person. But like for extras, he’d ask for another meat rather than salad. And then the salad-y things, he’d ask for more of everything. And yeah, we probably should have said something but we just served him as politely as anyone else and joked about him with each other. People are thinking that deli workers are upset about gluttons. No, we were just like “Lol, did you see what Greedy McGlutton ordered today”.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Two deli's near charge 3 euro for 5 chicken chunks. They're small little chicken balls in otherwords. 3 fuc*in euro


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    A few yardsticks - amounts being one. Like getting five salads is fine. It depends on how much you ask for of each. It’s visual, I guess.

    Or we had one guy who came in and really blatantly took the piss. He got away with it by being the only one that bad so we just let him away with it. It wasn’t worth saying anything for one person. But like for extras, he’d ask for another meat rather than salad. And then the salad-y things, he’d ask for more of everything. And yeah, we probably should have said something but we just served him as politely as anyone else and joked about him with each other. People are thinking that deli workers are upset about gluttons. No, we were just like “Lol, did you see what Greedy McGlutton ordered today”.

    Usually the customer that’s leaves the coffee area in bits aswell, spilt coffee and sugar all over the place,


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