Ireland vs England Feb 23, 3pm Twickenham

AdamD

If Murray isn't subbed at half time I give up, no accountability.

BarryD2

Not at the races. Farrell may as well ring the changes because we could easily be well beaten to 0 here.

Happy4all

Not the first time Stockdale has switched off defensively

Larbre34

England first game back in Twickers in 9 tests is like pure oxygen to them. That and the fact we've nothing whatsoever in our collective ballsack.

sydthebeat

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Had £100 on England today at 1.44, so happy enough on that front at least.

****e odds LOL

They were 7 point favourites

pickarooney

is_that_so wrote: »

What's with the jersey pulling that Itoje in particular is doing?

He does it every game to wind people up. It's never been called so presumably is a legitimate tactic.

ionadnapokot

Larbre34 wrote: »

I wonder what Stockdale needs to get his blood up, the lack of physicality for a fella his size is embarrassing to him and his team. Someone needs to slap his face hard for the full half time break.

Drop him
for
Earls!!

Could you imagine Earls out there? He would be getting rag dolled the **** out of it.

Such a disappointment this performance.
England are brutal but where is the fight? No ability to handle real pressure

Faugheen

We’re badly missing a proper sh*thouse in the team.

For all the moaning about Itoje, look how well it’s going for him. He’s winding everyone up and it’s working to Itoje and England’s benefit.

Mantis Toboggan

Johnny needs to be subbed quickly he's been brutal again

Buer

Zardoz wrote: »

England have been gifted two gifts of tries.

Apart from that they haven't created much.

Two poor teams in that first half.

Their tries came from brilliant kicks after excellent attacking play brought them into our 22.

We've been dire but England have been very good.

PhlegmyMoses

swiwi_ wrote: »

James Ryan would want yo he careful with the flying clean outs. He hits a head and he’ll be off. You’re supposed to bind on.

Think the ref needs to help him there though. He is doing it because there is so much ****housing going on.

stephen_n

England at the top of their game, we are nowhere near ours. Pack as an entirety has been ineffective. We need front foot ball and I can’t see where it will come from. England’s line speed has been phenomenal.

Dubinusa

Lucky to be only down 17. We are indecisive and underpowered.
Sexton having a mare. Murray is awful. Aki and Henshaw not in it at all.
POM and Ryan are trying. We just look weak. Very frustrating. Farrell will surely make changes!
We won't learn anything if he persists with the same gash.

is_that_so

Faugheen wrote: »

Must be watching a different game to me because I think all three have played well in defence.

They've been OK, very fitful performance. Two tries were embarrassing.

Burkie1203

pickarooney wrote: »

He does it every game to wind people up. It's never been called so presumably is a legitimate tactic.

It's called ****housery. When POM does it then its dark arts, great play, smart, streetwise.

Downlinz

End of the road for Toner, Healy and Sexton.

Serious questions have to be asked why Andy Farrell started a new tenure with so many ageing players who were already showing signs of decline last year.

omerin

Rog doesnt half talk a lot of ****e and usually takes an eternity to say it

Shefwedfan

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Johnny needs to be subbed quickly he's been brutal again

How?

lawred2

Downlinz wrote: »

End of the road for Toner, Healy and Sexton.

Serious questions have to be asked why Andy Farrell started a new tenure with so many ageing players who were already showing signs of decline last year.

And Murray really

ScrubsfanChris

Happy4all wrote: »

Not the first time Stockdale has switched off defensively

Stockdale has been living off 2018 heroics for a while now.

swiwi_

is_that_so wrote: »

What's with the jersey pulling that Itoje in particular is doing?

There is no doubt itoje is being itoje. But the flying wedge ruck clean outs is playing with fire.

If the same 15 come out then Farrell has no idea. Got to make some changes, even if ultimately futile.

Akrasia

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Murray and POM off like I said before the team was announced

Virgin Media EPG showing as ‘viewer advisory’...

Should have listened

STB.

Basil3 wrote: »

Penalty advantage often goes for at least that long.

Are you trying to explain rugby to me ?

We are clearly shíte today, but there is a lot of latitude and blind eye been shown by the ref, including late hits by the English.

Mantis Toboggan

Shefwedfan wrote: »

How?

He's having a mare so far. Needs to be culled

is_that_so

Downlinz wrote: »

End of the road for Toner, Healy and Sexton.

Serious questions have to be asked why Andy Farrell started a new tenure with so many ageing players who were already showing signs of decline last year.

We're a bit light on 2nd rows and Healy has solved that problem today. TBF Healy has been selected on form in the last year.

corny

Static ball carriers and passive defence V fierce line speed and carriers with momentum. What do we expect? Its a simple game and and surely any eejit can see the problem.

iano.p

A big shake up needed. Sexton isn't a leader for this team. Murry is poor box kicking is so crap.

Burkie1203

Dubinusa wrote: »

Lucky to be only down 17. We are indecisive and underpowered.
Sexton having a mare. Murray is awful. Aki and Henshaw not in it at all.
POM and Ryan are trying. We just look weak. Very frustrating. Farrell will surely make changes!
We won't learn anything if he persists with the same gash.

POM anonymous largely. Not competing at Lineout bar one
Gave away a pen and offers nothing with ball in hand. England know what we will do because we lack ball carriers and the service from 9 in particular is poisonous

Dillane Doris Kelleher Cooney all on at half time. Just roll the dice.

Midfield getting smashed because Whats happening inside them. Can't blamed them

walshb

ROG gone full on Cork..

Some Yoke

Shefwedfan wrote: »

No need to chnage according to the majority of the posters on here

Rob Kearneys redemption arc commences

C__MC

Oh ROG
Just call as it is
Shambles, nothing else
Spoofing how ****e Ireland are

irishgeo

He ain't going to sub the captain.

Infernal Racket

walshb wrote: »

ROG gone full on Cork..

Hahahaha, he does that when he's pissed

twinytwo

stephen_n wrote: »

England at the top of their game, we are nowhere near ours. Pack as an entirety has been ineffective. We need front foot ball and I can’t see where it will come from. England’s line speed has been phenomenal.

Not really, both their tries were fluke. Jones does the usual against us. Play all the big bastards and just run us over

is_that_so

walshb wrote: »

ROG gone full on Cork..

He did eventually get to the bollocking for Stockdale!

AdamD

Buer wrote: »

Their tries came from brilliant kicks after excellent attacking play brought them into our 22.

We've been dire but England have been very good.

The kicks weren't brilliant.. required two monumental **** ups to result in tries

Clegg

PoM performance in a nutshell. Good in the air and offers little else against a top level opposition pack. Of course that one steal is one of the few positives from today.

Grim stuff.

Hurrache

twinytwo wrote: »

Not really, both their tries were fluke. Jones does the usual against us. Play all the big bastards and just run us over

Like I said, they weren't fluke, they were a result of poor Irish play. Especially the second.

Squidgy Black

twinytwo wrote: »

Not really, both their tries were fluke. Jones does the usual against us. Play all the big bastards and just run us over

I wouldn't say they were flukes at all. They put the ball in those positions with two decent kicks and capatilised on two dreadful mistakes by the Irish backs.

griffinlee

This game is lost so at least give, kelleher, Doris, cooney, even Byrne a good run at it. What can happen, we get hit by 50? So what it's lost already

Downlinz

Downlinz wrote: »

End of the road for Toner, Healy and Sexton.

Serious questions have to be asked why Andy Farrell started a new tenure with so many ageing players who were already showing signs of decline last year.

Every match I see toner in I wonder what he does, flapping around

dublinman1990

I had a feeling that England would have a scalp against us. I was right but I didn't know that Ireland will become this bad today.

Our lads have been a complete disaster in this 1st half. They have no confidence in themselves to get & keep the ball in hand. There were too many needless box kicks from us that will give us a hard lesson in future in how to not give them away so frequently. The kicking game & defence from Sexton on the pitch and in front of the posts has been awful so far. England are in a really lucky position at the moment with scoring those 2 tries while we displayed our vulnerability in front of the ball. That was not a good position to take from our perspective. England are the ones on top & will take command of a further lead against us when we go back into the game later on if we don't have the security of a back-up plan on hand to stop further domination coming from England.

I would get rid of Sexton for Byrne & also take Murray off for Cooney. These new lads need to give us some drive to the team to get back into the match.

Mantis Toboggan

Sexton just isn't a leader. He should never have been picked as captain.

fullstop

Zardoz wrote: »

England have been gifted two gifts of tries.

Apart from that they haven't created much.

Two poor teams in that first half.

They’ve dominated every aspect of that half. Ireland going backwards at a rate of knots off every phase from either team in possession.

is_that_so

Buer wrote: »

Their tries came from brilliant kicks after excellent attacking play brought them into our 22.

We've been dire but England have been very good.

As Eamo used to say, good but not great! We have used up all the possible synonyms for bad!

Synode

Get Cooney and Doris on. We've so little power as is and Murray's box kicking is brutal

AbusesToilets

Bring on Cooney, Doris, and Dillane. Give Sexton another 10

Dubinusa

Good move to bring Dillane in! At least we could try to get some front foot ball!
Leaving the same lads out there would be nuts

Larbre34

Can't sub Sexton yet, it messages surrender. He has to lead now. 90% of what they do in the next 10 minutes is mental.

ionadnapokot

Yes fair ****s to CJ Ryan and Aki at least they are bringing aggressiveness.

What is the strategy to stop Tuilagi?
Let Sexton try and stand him up? Seriously we knew exactly what they would do and it appears their is no strategy to specially deal with him.

Extremely hard to stop him but lining Sexton up against him on first or second phase is not a solution.