Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

CinemaGuy45

tuxy wrote: »

There is a theory(no evidence to back this up) that Iran were using steroids to try to combat the symptoms.
And while these steroids will lower the immune response and people will feel better initially it inhibits people's ability to fight the virus.
Might account for some of the higher fatality rate in Iran but the figure is still insanely high.

This is speculation on my part but is it possible Iran might be the ones telling the truth here?

d51984

Jesus lads if it snows in the next few days boards.ie is going to explode in to a billion pieces!

Cupatae

It ll be interesting to see how our election will work out if it put to a re-election.. talk about ****e timing !

Westernyelp

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Let's call a spade a spade, we are finding out the crooked countries from the straight up democracies in this crisis.

Silver lining.

True. we are also finding out the absolute loons on here. It's great

depcon

You can't trust any of the numbers with regards to infection vs mortality in China . How many people have got the virus, not been tested and recovered already. Its easy to hide an illness but a dead body is different.

Quantum Erasure

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

yea but the figures you quoted were from the 3rd

Mortality Rate in China as of Feb. 20 (3.8% nationwide, 5.8% in Wuhan, 0.7% other areas)

tom1ie

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

yea but the figures you quoted were from the 3rd

Really? Are they not the most up to date figures on that page? So are the most up to date figures available on that site from the 3rd?
I read it that those figures were updated today?

billybonkers

BanditLuke wrote: »

If we had the numbers Italy had a few days ago yes.

We could have those numbers soon. There could be many people not showing symptoms also. Could be 100's infected here by now

BanditLuke

Wuhan has/had a population of around 10m people similar to London. Now imagine London locked down like Wuhan for 6 weeks for a minute.

But yeah it's only the flu like.

brendanwalsh

theballz wrote: »

They are not telling us everything.

Absolutely.
Irish government are suppressing information.
I work as a healthcare worker. I posted on Thursday that there was a confirmed case in the mater hospital. Strange it didn’t get released to the public until 9pm Saturday night.

tom1ie

thebaz wrote: »

Irans figures are bananas , that why they should be discounted.

Yes but are they a sign of things to come in less well developed country’s (with regards to health service). Example African country’s?

CinemaGuy45

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Absolutely.
Irish government are suppressing information.
I work as a healthcare worker. I posted on Thursday that there was a confirmed case in the mater hospital. Strange it didn’t get released to the public until 9pm Saturday night.

You might want to be careful they do not trace you and fire you.

Snowflakes11

Anything new lads??

I’m glad I’m up in Donegal , might finally have a result for being Ireland’s forgotten county 😂

namloc1980

theballz wrote: »

They are not telling us everything.

Go away

Quantum Erasure

tom1ie wrote: »

Really? Are they not the most up to date figures on that page? So are the most up to date figures available on that site from the 3rd?
I read it that those figures were updated today?

Presented on this page:

Mortality Rate in China as of Feb. 20 (3.8% nationwide, 5.8% in Wuhan, 0.7% other areas)
Mortality Rate in China as of Feb. 4 (2.1% nationwide, 4.9% Wuhan, 3.1% Hubei, and 0.16% other provinces) reported by the NHC of China

all about the mane

CFlat wrote: »

The nerve of them to tell us to remain calm.

the infidels!

fritzelly

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Absolutely.
Irish government are suppressing information.
I work as a healthcare worker. I posted on Thursday that there was a confirmed case in the mater hospital. Strange it didn’t get released to the public until 9pm Saturday night.

Where does it say he is in the Mater? Making BS up

cameramonkey

Singapore
99 cases
72 fully recovered from the infection and have been discharged
20 confirmed cases are stable
7 are in critical condition.
0 deaths.

I suppose this shows what a good health system will do in the early stages of an outbreak. It seems the problems mount when your system gets overwhelmed with people who need oxygen or intensive care and the capacity is not there. This is what I would worry about with Ireland.

the butcher

Cupatae wrote: »

It ll be interesting to see how our election will work out if it put to a re-election.. talk about ****e timing !

I said this in the thread earlier but I reckon in 2 weeks time we will be hearing FF and FG talk about the national interest and going in with the greens to deal with the coronavirus emergency and economic fallout from it plus mentioning the election promises and Brexit trade talks.

This virus will force FF/fg/greens into government. I no longer see a second election as viable with this outbreak.

Kermit.de.frog

Westernyelp wrote: »

True. we are also finding out the absolute loons on here. It's great

I think all my points have been perfectly reasonable trying to explain why the concern is not just the virus itself. It's the knock on effects that are the biggest issue particularly for health systems under strain.

tillyfilly

There appears to be a cover up, some body is not telling us everything, very strange

tom1ie

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Mortality Rate in China as of Feb. 20 (3.8% nationwide, 5.8% in Wuhan, 0.7% other areas)

So a 3.8% mortality rate in China, where we already have suspicions they are suppressing the death toll, and people are still comparing this to flu!!

Away With The Fairies

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

So am I. We have one case, which is now isolated. Outside that, who is coughing on who ? Stay healthy in self imposed quarantine of that makes it safer for you, and that me being practical. Not much more I can add given we have different views on the risk of infection.

How long has he been carrying the virus before isolation? Passing it onto to others.

leavingirl

Cupatae wrote: »

In there defense i think they ve a fairly tough job, its never gonna be perfect but we came out the otherside of all those mentioned

We came out the other side with a needless vaccine that injured a lot of people, especially with Swine flu.. But the main players made billions so happy days.

Abba987

fritzelly wrote: »

Where does it say he is in the Mater? Making BS up

I think they are the source

amadangomor

the butcher wrote: »

The reason why there is so much discussion and "hype" over this virus is...

1. It's new.
2. New means we don't have a system in place to cope with it, like we do with the flu, like cancer and all the other diseases or accidents some mad posters like to compare this to for some bizarre reasoning?!
3. It's far more infectious than the flu.
4. Death rate is higher than the flu.
5. Irish aspect is we have no capacity to deal with it. We don't have extra staff or resources, we can't magic them out of thin air.
6. This means our choices are to not treat some people and risk them dying or....not treat others in a&e...leading to more indirect deaths and life changing incidents for others.
7. We have the HSE telling people to ring their GPs and GPs having to tell those people to ring the HSE. There is little to no confidence in the HSE to handle this upcoming outbreak.

1-5 ok but what are you basing 6 and 7 on?

thebaz

tom1ie wrote: »

Yes but are they a sign of things to come in less well developed country’s (with regards to health service). Example African country’s?

I would say they have a severe outbreak, and are under-reporting number of cases.

I would have thought an outbreak would have occured in India and Indo , but doesnt seams to.

Jinglejangle69

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Absolutely.
Irish government are suppressing information.
I work as a healthcare worker. I posted on Thursday that there was a confirmed case in the mater hospital. Strange it didn’t get released to the public until 9pm Saturday night.

You're a nutjob.

Scaremongering.

all about the mane

tom1ie wrote: »

So a 3.8% mortality rate in China, where we already have suspicions they are suppressing the death toll, and people are still comparing this to flu!!

Perhaps they are suppressing the number of cases. How does that fit in with the agenda?

cameramonkey

the butcher wrote: »

I said this in the thread earlier but I reckon in 2 weeks time we will be hearing FF and FG talk about the national interest and going in with the greens to deal with the coronavirus emergency and economic fallout from it plus mentioning the election promises and Brexit trade talks.

This virus will force FF/fg/greens into government. I no longer see a second election as viable with this outbreak.

Sf getting 35% in tonight's opinion poll means there will be no election.

tom1ie

cameramonkey wrote: »

Singapore
99 cases
72 fully recovered from the infection and have been discharged
20 confirmed cases are stable
7 are in critical condition.
0 deaths.

I suppose this shows what a good health system will do in the early stages of an outbreak. It seems the problems mount when your system gets overwhelmed with people who need oxygen or intensive care and the capacity is not there. This is what I would worry about with Ireland.

This post is very interesting.
Singapore is doing well (I wonder where it is on the China timescale though, this all kicked off at the end of November, when did it kick off in Singapore I wonder?) so does our health service compare well to Singapore’s or worse? Do we have the same capacity per capita as Singapore?

all about the mane

cameramonkey wrote: »

Sf getting 35% in tonight's opinion poll means there will be no election.

they must be breathing a sigh of relief!

CinemaGuy45

all about the mane wrote: »

Perhaps they are suppressing the number of cases. How does that fit in with the agenda?

The agenda could be just to keep the economy going and we do need the economy by the way.


An agenda if there is one does not have to be some evil masterplan.:rolleyes:

expectationlost

so woman case got taxi why wouldn't they say ? they hadn't ID taxi man?

amadangomor

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Absolutely.
Irish government are suppressing information.
I work as a healthcare worker. I posted on Thursday that there was a confirmed case in the mater hospital. Strange it didn’t get released to the public until 9pm Saturday night.

A stopped watch and all that! Prove you are a healthcare worker with access to such information. If not you deserve to be banned for spouting dangerous bull****.

brendanwalsh

fritzelly wrote: »

Where does it say he is in the Mater? Making BS up

I posted on Thursday there was a case in the mater , read my post history .

Tonight’s announcement has been vague and did not say which facility the person is it at.

You are open to make your own assumptions.

CFlat

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

You're a nutjob.

Scaremongering.

And he's been thanked 5 times so far. Very scary some posters on this thread.

NegativeCreep

Why not release specifics about the case? What hospital are they in? When did they get back from Italy? What condition are they in? What age are they? This would be useful info

skimpydoo

When this finally dies down and goes away, why don't we all meet up for a drink? Providing some of us are still alive. As I have said before I have a compromised immune system and I have spent the past 2 weeks trying to shake off a stomach bug that is going round.

all about the mane

brendanwalsh wrote: »

I posted on Thursday there was a case in the mater , read my post history .

Tonight’s announcement has been vague and did not say which facility the person is it at.

You are open to make your own assumptions.

The assumption to be made is that you making stuff up?

cameramonkey

tom1ie wrote: »

This post is very interesting.
Singapore is doing well (I wonder where it is on the China timescale though, this all kicked off at the end of November, when did it kick off in Singapore I wonder?) so does our health service compare well to Singapore’s or worse? Do we have the same capacity per capita as Singapore?

Have been to Singapore , they are very organised, its run by ethnic Chinese and they dont mess around. I would say their health care is far superiority to most countries.

Westernyelp

tillyfilly wrote: »

There appears to be a cover up, some body is not telling us everything, very strange

You know you don't have to share every bit of nonsense that comes in to your head, right?

tom1ie

all about the mane wrote: »

Perhaps they are suppressing the number of cases. How does that fit in with the agenda?

For China it makes things look better than it possibly is. I would also call into question the almost linear reduction in confirmed cases since the new mayor of Wuhan took over. But hey China has to be open for business right.......

fritzelly

Hubei cases
New 570
Deaths 34

Add on a couple for the rest of China, meanwhile in the real world

tom1ie

cameramonkey wrote: »

Have been to Singapore , they are very organised, its run by ethnic Chinese and they dont mess around. I would say their health care is far superiority to most countries.

This isn’t supposed to take the piss but if you ranked there’s on a scale of 1 to 10 what would it be.......now do Ireland’s.

BanditLuke

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Absolutely.
Irish government are suppressing information.
I work as a healthcare worker. I posted on Thursday that there was a confirmed case in the mater hospital. Strange it didn’t get released to the public until 9pm Saturday night.

I'm beginning to wonder if this is true. I seen a photo of a blocked off corridor inside the Mater on Thursday in a Whatapp group and thought nothing of it.

Actually here it is.

brooke 2

owlbethere wrote: »

I get the impression that people want to mind themselves and their families and others with underlying conditions like CF, asthma, pregnancy, cancer patients, etc. I get the impression that they want to minimise the risk of getting infected and minimise spreading of what is still a new and relatively unknown virus.

+100

CinemaGuy45

BanditLuke wrote: »

I'm beginning to wonder if this is true. I seen a photo of a blocked off corridor inside the Mater on Thursday in a Whatapp group and thought nothing of it.

Actually here it is.

GeorgeBailey

BanditLuke wrote: »

Do they ever?

The fact we keep being told to stay calm is the giveaway.

I just wish they'd do the responsible thing and tell us all to panic.

SafeSurfer

the butcher wrote: »

I said this in the thread earlier but I reckon in 2 weeks time we will be hearing FF and FG talk about the national interest and going in with the greens to deal with the coronavirus emergency and economic fallout from it plus mentioning the election promises and Brexit trade talks.

This virus will force FF/fg/greens into government. I no longer see a second election as viable with this outbreak.

We may need a national unity government at this rate. This is a much bigger threat than many people realise. We are 2 months into a new illness which has killed thousands, has unknown long term consequences for survivors and is spreading rapidly and some people are still treating it as a joke.