Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

Snow Garden

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

You're doing it wrong, the whole point of posting here is to fill others with a sense of fear.
Good post.

Fear and self loathing surely?

owlbethere

tringle wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked but im 50 pages behind at the moment. How is self quarantine going to work with sick leave and certs for work?
I was sent home from work this week sick. I have no sick leave left so decided to take the few days as annual leave. However got a phonecall from the employer saying as i was sent home sick in order to qualify for annual leave i needed a certificate of fitness from my gp stating i was fit for work. Daft, regardless i had to go to the gp (got a sick cert, dont know how that will work out when i go back). The HSE is telling us not to go to the gp, how will employers deal with certs and med 1 forms. Ta

This is something I thought about last night. A lot of companies have policies about being sick and requiring a sick cert after 2/3 days.

You will have to phone the GP and see if they give you a sick cert. The best thing for them would be to scan a cert in their office and email it to you and then you will forward it on to your employer. I can't think of any other way.

Peatys

Ficheall wrote: »

There is speculation that the virus damages the testicles. It is unconfirmed, and based on theoretical rather than empirical evidence, but I'm just wondering if it transpired that this was something that had a 1 in 5 chance of irreparably damaging your testicles if an infected person breathed on you, rather than merely hospitalising and perhaps killing you, whether people might take it more seriously.

No

expectationlost

really don't get the authorities not saying how this woman traveled to Belfast, I don't know how specific information would cause panic, vague info causes panic, unless they can't trace the bus passengers so don't want to admit that she was on a bus, if she was.

Ubbquittious

Duke of Url wrote: »

People been taken to the cleaners on Adverts.ie

1 surgical mask (supposedly) 10 euros

I still have a few

Peatys

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I am selling boxes of invisible gloves for €20 a pop including postage if anyone is interested.

20 a Box? People are panicking!! It's 20 a pair.

iguana

tromtipp wrote: »

The relapsing thing, and the long incubation period, make me think the HSE or someone should be reminding young fit people not to exercise while they have an infection in their system. I've known four people to die from doing that, three runners, one footballer. Sometimes from heart problems, one from sudden massive sepsis. If you do get ill, rest, and take your time getting back to your exercise routine.

I've been wondering about that but can't find any information. I'm a not-quite-young fit person and have made a few plans for exercise if I have to isolate. I want to keep my strength and fitness up (partially due to a presumption that having good cardio-vascular health should offer a degree of protection against the virus) but I don't want to put my body under any stress if I do get ill.

blade1

I assume most don't care about the 98% that will be fine.
It's being in the 2% is the problem.
You can't be happy for the 98% if you're dead

The odds of winning the euromillions doesn't stop the amount of people doing it.

Graces7

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Maybe it's my OCD but I wish hand shaking would be banned full stop. I can't stand feeling forced to touch a stranger's sweaty palm in greeting. I don't know what illness they might have or whether they washed their hands after going to the toilet.

Exactly. I never participated. Head bowed. eyes closed as in prayer, hands folded. I tried just smiling and nodding but they still approached....

creditcarder

blade1 wrote: »

I assume most don't care about the 98% that will be fine.
It's being in the 2% is the problem.
You can't be happy for the 98% if you're dead

The odds of winning the euromillions doesn't stop the amount of people doing it.

I imagine the virus has a lower fatility rate than 2 percent as most people seem to be unaffected.

drunkmonkey

Runaways wrote: »

Right here. Thanks for the concern. They never called. I’m still in a heap. Last night was a genuine nightmare.
Gonna call again today and not hang up til I get to speak to someone.
Be back with whatever happens.

So you've ruled out sepsis, seriously don't **** around with blood poisoning it will kill you at best you'll lose a limb. Your a perfect candidate for it considering your symptoms. I don't think people realise how many people it kills every year in Ireland roughly running at around 15,000 deaths a year here with a mortality rate of about 15%.

SafeSurfer

Peatys wrote: »

20 a Box? People are panicking!! It's 20 a pair.

There is one glove in each box

iguana

Deleted User wrote: »

Not theoretical, lesions showing in patients , lesions are damage which can cause infertility

Do we know yet if this affects pre-pubescent children? Or does the apparent fact that the virus is mild for children offer protection to young boys?

sReq | uTeK

Charles Babbage wrote: »

I'm not expecting an apocalypse, but one of my colleagues was in Asia and they might ask me to self quarantine for 14 days, so having some items in stock is convenient.

So is Tesco online delivery that can be left at your front door for you. You'll survive.

Ficheall

Deleted User wrote: »

Not theoretical, lesions showing in patients , lesions are damage which can cause infertility

Really? I didn't read the article, just an abstract, which prompted the thought. I'm surprised more isn't being made of that, tbh.

Blueshoe

drunkmonkey wrote: »

So you've ruled out sepsis, seriously don't **** around with blood poisoning it will kill you at best you'll lose a limb. Your a perfect candidate for it considering your symptoms. I don't think people realise how many people it kills every year in Ireland roughly running at around 15,000 deaths a year here with a mortality rate of about 15%.

You are not buying this are you? I think it's complete attention seeking and lies.
I'm sick but the hse won't ring me back. Over and over.

In fairness it's not on.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Latest update on what it's like in parts of South Korea, and a bit about 3 'unexplained' cases in the US west...


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51685908

The video about how germs spread and how to wash hands correctly is great. It’s only a minute long so worth watching. Hope this embeds.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/embed/p084zgch/51685908"

Rob A. Bank

creditcarder wrote: »

I imagine the virus has a lower fatility rate than 2 percent as most people seem to be unaffected.

The mortality figures from China for those infected with covid 19 who have other conditions…

13.2% for those with cardiovascular disease
9.2% for diabetes
8.4% for hypertension
8.0% for chronic respiratory disease
7.6% for cancer

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

tillyfilly

should i decline handshakes?

Ubbquittious

blade1 wrote: »

I assume most don't care about the 98% that will be fine.
It's being in the 2% is the problem.
You can't be happy for the 98% if you're dead

The odds of winning the euromillions doesn't stop the amount of people doing it.

A lot of the 98 have to grit through quite an unpleasant illness for a few weeks. Something id rather avoid

Duke of Url

iguana wrote: »

Do we know yet if this affects pre-pubescent children? Or does the apparent fact that the virus is mild for children offer protection to young boys?

This is what’s be reported

Age of Coronavirus Deaths
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:

*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

AGE
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old
21.9%
14.8%
70-79 years old
8.0%
60-69 years old
3.6%
50-59 years old
1.3%
40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old
0.2%
20-29 years old
0.2%
10-19 years old
0.2%
0-9 years old
no fatalities

Away With The Fairies

branie2 wrote: »

The sign of peace at mass has been suspended - good idea

If you're in close proximity to an infected person, how will not shaking hands stop this?

CinemaGuy45

MarkY91 wrote: »

The stats show that my age bracket (29) is 0.2%. I guess the 2% is for every age bracket combined?

**Not trying to downplay anything. I have elderly people that I'm concerned for. What I mean is for myself and most people I know have little to be worried about**

Well if you get it none of here will lose any sleep.

iguana

Duke of Url wrote: »

This is what’s be reported


*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

I mean more in terms of non-lethal health risk, like the renal and testicular damage. It's probably not something we have any reliable data on at this stage but I'm wondering if any of the patients with renal damage or testicular lesions are children. Or if the apparent fact that children have a mild illness may protect them against other long-term damage too.

Drumpot

tromtipp wrote: »

That Dr John Campbell Youtube from yesterday included a recap and update on research so far and had a few interesting points:

People who infect others without themselves seeming ill are usually (maybe always, they don't know yet) presymptomatic rather than asymptomatic.

The virus is stable, as is SARS, so people who have had it once will have acquired immunity (Dr C didn't say so, but that seems to increase the chance of a vaccine).

He wonders is the high death rate in Iran is caused by inappropriate treatment with steroids. He also noted that Iran did call off Friday prayers yesterday. Saudi has closed its pilgrimage sites.

He is sceptical of people getting re-infected - the condition is relapsing for some time after the intital infection which may be causing confusion.


That isn't exactly good news, but seems to have some crumbs of hope. The relapsing thing, and the long incubation period, make me think the HSE or someone should be reminding young fit people not to exercise while they have an infection in their system. I've known four people to die from doing that, three runners, one footballer. Sometimes from heart problems, one from sudden massive sepsis. If you do get ill, rest, and take your time getting back to your exercise routine.

Oh, and Dr John said the dog in Hong Kong wasn't contagious.

I had pneumonia last year which was misdiagnosed so I kept doing excercise which made it worse. What I’ve learned is that excercise is bad and can make you worse when you are unwell. Not rocket science I know but the same apppies here. Doctor john in one of his earlier videos said that rest is vital if you get the virus. Straight to bed and no strenuous activity. Rest your heart as much as possible

cnocbui

Snow Garden wrote: »

I see.

is that + or - 10?

Was the extra 0 at the end for effect? Or did you mean 450 million people?

Sigh, I need to ban myself from this thread again.

Getting smart over an obvious typo. Yeah why don't you - and while you are at it, you can go and unthank all of the snow photos of mine you liked, if you wouldn't mind. Thanks.

And those figures are from the WHO guy who went to Wuhan. https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/new-data-from-china-buttress-fears-about-high-coronavirus-fatality-rate-who-expert-says/

CinemaGuy45

Graces7 wrote: »

Potaoes. flour eggs... whatever you would normally buy for 2 weeks

And pet food if you have one

and OTC meds eg paracetamol

And failing that a big pot to cook the pet.

Osborne

Blueshoe wrote: »

You are not buying this are you? I think it's complete attention seeking and lies.
I'm sick but the hse won't ring me back. Over and over.

In fairness it's not on.

Did you not see the massive gash on his leg?

1641

I see that to control infection spread we have been advised to "avoid shaking hands, hugging, and kissing".

That must be a relief to Tinder.

tillyfilly

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

And failing that a big pot to cook the pet.

that's what got us into this mess! People eating cats and dogs