Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

fritzelly

surfwaterfords wrote: »

We are looking at the potential of 106,085 dead in Ireland...

If you are gonna quote and forecast figures at least use real figures and not made up ones

gmisk

smelly sock wrote: »

You'd have to think it best to shut work places amd schools now to contain this thing.

That isn't going to happen
It hasn't happened anywhere else, especially not after 1 case.

all about the mane

tom1ie wrote: »

I though we only had 5mill. Is that 7 mill north aswell?

70% catching this thing is ridiculous

the butcher

skimpydoo

namloc1980 wrote: »

Loving the "east of the country" description. It's like if they don't give any more details it'll be grand.

I am now picturing an episode of Father Ted and how long will it be before Simon Harris focks of to Angola?

daheff

smelly sock wrote: »

You'd have to think it best to shut work places amd schools now to contain this thing.

so have HSE traced the people on the plane on which this person travelled? They are going to be a risk too. We'll probably see a sudden cluster of people now in East of the country. Even that would test the HSE's capabilities.


Surely now Italy should be shutting its airports (or at least we should stop people travelling here from Italy or anywhere that has confirmed cases)?

Kermit.de.frog

tom1ie

DeanAustin wrote: »

You said the death rate is 2%-3%. The lowest end of that range is the death rate at the epicentre of the outbreak and widely accepted to be an inflated number.

But you're right, we have enough problems supporting Spurs than to be arguing about coronavirus...

Well I’m not sure if it’s widely accepted in fact I’d argue people are saying that numbers suppressed. But I will agree spurs are enough to be worrying about at the minute.

tom1ie

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Starting to look like South Korea?

BanditLuke

You have to feel sorry for the residents and staff of this nursing home. Iv'e a real fear we are going to see these scenes repeating a fair bit over the next while

https://twitter.com/inteldotwav/status/1233884986488623106

Kermit.de.frog

Tootsie_1

i honestly don't know how hospitals will cope with anyone needing Intensive care theres no beds no room, the Icu's in our hospitals are tiny and probably already at capacity and then where do the staff come from already under staffed to look after the patients they have at the moment. I had a relative in St James recently there were 2 nurses for a whole ward for the night shift thats a ward of at least 30 beds they forgot to give my relative meds on several occasions as they just couldn't cope its a shambles on an average day. And thats a mild story I have heard waaay worse.

fritzelly

daheff wrote: »

so have HSE traced the people on the plane on which this person travelled? They are going to be a risk too. We'll probably see a sudden cluster of people now in East of the country. Even that would test the HSE's capabilities.


Surely now Italy should be shutting its airports (or at least we should stop people travelling here from Italy or anywhere that has confirmed cases)?

Very good chance he wasn't even contagious on the plane - maybe he was over there a week, caught it mid hols. Be a while before he was even able to spread the virus. Bigger concern would be people he's associated with back in Ireland

tom1ie

fritzelly wrote: »

Very good chance he wasn't even contagious on the plane - maybe he was over there a week, caught it mid hols. Be a while before he was even able to spread the virus. Bigger concern would be people he's associated with back in Ireland

? He would be contagious without showing symptoms not the other way round.
That’s a fact that has been observed.

BanditLuke

The HSE and government seem to be more interested in appealing for people to remain calm instead of doing all they can to avert this crisis. Here's a crazy thought, people would be a lot calmer if they had put a stop on flights coming in from a known virus hotspot a few days ago.

Beasty

DeanAustin wrote: »

But you're right, we have enough problems supporting Spurs than to be arguing about coronavirus...

If you had the choice which would rather you have - coronavirus or Jose Mourinho?


:pac:

antodeco

fritzelly wrote: »

Very good chance he wasn't even contagious on the plane - maybe he was over there a week, caught it mid hols. Be a while before he was even able to spread the virus. Bigger concern would be people he's associated with back in Ireland

Do we even know if he's Irish or Italian or another nationality?

fritzelly

tom1ie wrote: »

? He would be contagious without showing symptoms not the other way round.
That’s a fact that has been observed.

You don't suddenly become contagious after you get infected - probably more likely caught it in the airport than walking around outside in Italy

Cupatae

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

i honestly don't know how hospitals will cope with anyone needing Intensive care theres no beds no room, the Icu's in our hospitals are tiny and probably already at capacity and then where do the staff come from already under staffed to look after the patients they have at the moment. I had a relative in St James recently there were 2 nurses for a whole ward for the night shift thats a ward of at least 30 beds they forgot to give my relative meds on several occasions as they just couldn't cope its a shambles on an average day. And thats a mild story I have heard waaay worse.

We ve known that for years and we havent sorted it, it was only a matter of time before something like this finishes the job, as a country we cant really complain we have let this happen.

ILoveYourVibes

They should cancel travel or put people into quarantine before hand.

fr336

What % of the cases globally are still those who have come from affected outbreak areas or their close relatives, friends, business associates? Obviously this isn't good, but if you're not up close with a carrier and just a passing member of the public are your chances of catching greatly reduced still? This all assumes there isn't a big cluster.

Nickla

fritzelly wrote: »

I'd say over 300

I’d say less than 100 posts only... cut out all the ****e talk and bickering ..

Cupatae

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

They should cancel travel or put people into quarantine before hand.

The horse has well and truly bolted on that im afraid no point stopping travel now shur its already nearly global

tom1ie

all about the mane wrote: »

70% catching this thing is ridiculous

I didn’t state that?

Signore Fancy Pants

DeanAustin wrote: »

It would be a dereliction of duty if they weren't planning for it for the last number of weeks. That doesn't mean they can contain an outbreak or stop the spread.

If anyone seriously thinks they were sitting around pretending there was no coronavirus for the last few weeks, they need to take off the tinfoil hat.

Youre being ridiculous.

I don't doubt they were planning but it's very obvious (based on interviews from the professionals) that their capacity to execute their plans will be far from sufficient.

Jack Lambert, a specialist in infectious diseases at The Mater Hospital and UCD has stated that 20% of people who contract Covid-19 will become very sick and will need to be in ICU with up to an expected 4% mortality rate.

According to the experts, we don't have the requisite facilities to properly follow infectious disease protocols in the event of an outbreak.

Its not my opinion.

Take from that what you will.

skimpydoo

daheff wrote: »

Surely now Italy should be shutting its airports (or at least we should stop people travelling here from Italy or anywhere that has confirmed cases)?

That would mean most of Europe for starters.

Tootsie_1

Cupatae wrote: »

We ve known that for years and we havent sorted it, it was only a matter of time before something like this finishes the job, as a country we cant really complain we have let this happen.

Very true I can never understand why the Irish are so passive (me included), the French now they know how to take a stand and protest and let the government know they wont take it but us we just carry on.

cameramonkey

antodeco wrote: »

Do we even know if he's Irish or Italian or another nationality?

We do know, he is Irish,Italian or some other nationality.

Cupatae

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

lol indeed, merit in that case. They wouldn't have found him if the advice had been followed

Id have turned off the internet if they put him in the wheely bin :D

amadangomor

Cupatae wrote: »

We ve known that for years and we havent sorted it, it was only a matter of time before something like this finishes the job, as a country we cant really complain we have let this happen.

We have one of the best health systems in the world despite obvious weaknesses at certain times, stop moaning.