Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

BanditLuke

BarryD2 wrote: »

Sure, there's a cost / benefit analysis at play. We live on an island and are in a far better position to keep this out than many states. Most people have to enter/ exit by a small number of airports or ferries. We could close these or restrict to absolutely essential travel by permit, allow in containers by permit with strict controls etc. Would have a significant impact on the economy though, what is the cost of that versus the prospect of perhaps a few 10s or 100s of premature deaths?

The government seems to be waiting till the sh*t hits the fan and then they'll throw their hands in the air and say it's too late. Wash your hands and say a few prayers.

Only today Harris was telling us we can't do anything as we are all part of one big happy European family seemingly forgetting we aren't landlocked between France and Germany.

Also is Varadkar gone into hiding?

Titclamp

timmyntc wrote: »

Vaccines need to be tested extensively, like a sh*tload.
Because it's something that would be given to the majority of the population (in order to be effective, herd immunity etc).
So if there was a side effect that they didnt catch - it could have severe consequences across the world.

Vaccines don't have side effects stupid

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

In Germany myself. Got a cold. Probably not corona but staying home just in case.

timmyntc

timmyntc wrote: »

Vaccines need to be tested extensively, like a sh*tload.
Because it's something that would be given to the majority of the population (in order to be effective, herd immunity etc).
So if there was a side effect that they didnt catch - it could have severe consequences across the world.

Well, giving it to loadsa people is by definition extensive testing

BanditLuke

blingrhino wrote: »

Any update on a cure?
I heard that on thursday there would be an annoucement re tests?

It will take a monumental effort to have a vaccine ready before next Winter.

MarkY91

MarkY91 wrote: »

Who wants to sell their tickets to Tenerife to me in the cheap?

Outdoor camping in individual tents is probably the way to go

ChikiChiki

BanditLuke wrote: »

Only today Harris was telling us we can't do anything as we are all part of one big happy European family seemingly forgetting we aren't landlocked between France and Germany.

Also is Varadkar gone into hiding?

He is away sulking but appears on social media every now and again to have a pop at Sinn Fein.

Kermit.de.frog

Latest:

First case in Pakistan.

New case in Helsinki. 2nd in Finland.

First case in Macedonia.

Sigma101

SeaBreezes wrote: »

I keep waiting for a question on re-infection at any of the WHO news reports.
It seems that docs in China are warning it's a very real thing and more dangerous 2nd time. But only heresay, nobodies asking official folk.

The lack of discussion about the potential to get re-infected is conspicuous at this stage. I would imagine if it is the case that one can get re-infected the virus will be far less discriminatory in terms of age and medical condition of fatalities. Maybe those who think we should press ahead and let the virus take its course should reflect on that.

Cork Boy 53

UsBus wrote: »

I was afraid to even mention Liverpool... Need those 4 games to be played out quickly..!

Would make no difference. If the PL,or any other league for that matter , is suspended then all results and league table positions would be null and void.

DrumSteve

Titclamp wrote: »

Vaccines don't have side effects stupid

They can do if they are not tested. See all the crap that went down with the Swine Flu Vaccine.

BanditLuke wrote: »

It will take a monumental effort to have a vaccine ready before next Winter.

There really needs to be a "manhattan project" to fix this.

I know there are competing labs trying to get this up and running; if you get the vaccine for this out; the issue is mass production. I think GSK have the facilities to do it and they are working on something at the moment with Moderna?

MarkY91

charlietheminxx wrote: »

Ha if you're interested, I'll sell you my accommodation from tomorrow to Monday - but you'll need to sort your own flights

Unfortunately flights are still expensive. No drop in price lol

DrumSteve

Sigma101 wrote: »

The lack of discussion about the potential to get re-infected is conspicuous at this stage. I would imagine if it is the case that one can get re-infected the virus will be far less discriminatory in terms of age and medical condition of fatalities. Maybe those who think we should press ahead and let the virus take its course should reflect on that.

I think there is some truth in that and probably why a lot of those doctors died in Asia.

It could also be the case that people were being released before they were fully cured.

fr336

This crap would make you miss Brexit

ceadaoin.

I'm at the dentist right now. I did have second thoughts but then if everything does go tits up for a while when's the next time I'll be able to get it sorted? Right now its weighing up the risks vs the reality that there are no cases where I live. Same in ireland. Live your life as normal for as long as you can while still being prepared, and taking reasonable precautions like handwashing etc and hopefully it will come to nothing. Theres literally nothing else anyone can do

weldoninhio

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

have heard that a confirmation of a patient in beamount is imminent

and a hse helpline is being set up and probably available from tomorrow or friday

There was a school from Rush in Northern Italy from Weds-Sun of last week. Apparently a few are unwell this week, message went out on iSchool app today.

SleetAndSnow

Add pakistan to the list of countries, just declared their first confirmed infection. Person travelled from Iran to Karachi

SeaBreezes

WHO mini course on the COVID19 virus:

https://openwho.org/courses/introduction-to-ncov

Kermit.de.frog

The new case in Helsinki is a woman who had travelled from Milan

DrumSteve

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I'm at the dentist right now. I did have second thoughts but then if everything does go tits up for a while when's the next time I'll be able to get it sorted? Right now its weighing up the risks vs the reality that there are no cases where I live. Same in ireland. Live your life as normal for as long as you can while still being prepared, and taking reasonable precautions like handwashing etc and hopefully it will come to nothing. Theres literally nothing else anyone can do

They could check people at the (air)ports?

ceadaoin.

DrumSteve wrote: »

I think there is some truth in that and probably why a lot of those doctors died in Asia.

It could also be the case that people were being released before they were fully cured.

I thought the theory re the doctors was that they were exposed to a very high viral load through treating patients, making their infections more severe

gmisk

DrumSteve wrote: »

They could check people at the (air)ports?

Can people not have it and no symptoms for 14 days?

BENDYBINN

DrumSteve wrote: »

They could check people at the (air)ports?

Teresa Mannion and unnecessary journeys comes to mind.....

ceadaoin.

DrumSteve wrote: »

They could check people at the (air)ports?

That wont really do anything, not everyone is symptomatic, those who are can take medication to reduce fever so wont be flagged up. Even the actual tests for this virus specifically aren't that reliable with many false negatives reported

DrumSteve

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That wont really do anything, not everyone is symptomatic, those who are can take medication to reduce fever so wont be flagged up. Even the actual tests for this virus specifically aren't that reliable with many false negatives reported

But they might catch a couple of people coming through?

ceadaoin.

DrumSteve wrote: »

But they might catch a couple of people coming through?

They might. And dozens more will pass through unnoticed. Its going to be everywhere pretty soon, on a personal level you can take precautions and prepare to stay at home for a while but that's it.

They should probably advise people travelling from affected regions to self isolate for a couple of weeks but will they listen?

EltonJohn69

If Europe had just stopped flights from Italy a week ago containment would have been so much easier... seems so obvious.....

mlem123

DrumSteve wrote: »

They could check people at the (air)ports?

https://nationalpost.com/health/airport-screening-for-viruses-is-back-despite-post-sars-study-that-found-it-to-be-of-little-use

random_banter

weldoninhio wrote: »

There was a school from Rush in Northern Italy from Weds-Sun of last week. Apparently a few are unwell this week, message went out on iSchool app today.

Hearing lots of anecdotal things like this about school ski trips (had no idea there were so many school ski trips - the boom is clearly back) for mid-term.

While I don't have scientific proof of this, the experience for myself and others I know is that ski trips actually often end up with people catching a dose toward the end (sometimes the beginning!) or being ill when they come back home - mainly due to cold/hot air changes, exposure, extreme fatigue caused by doing heaps of sport all day when they're not used to it etc. So the immune system can get compromised.

I would take all reports about this with a pinch of salt until things are confirmed. As an example, of 10 of us who used to go away skiing together each year, at least two tended to come back and develop a chest infection, even pneumonia on a couple of occasions.

So, yeah, no massive panic about the amount of sick kids we are hearing about until there is testing and proof (IMO).

ThePopehimself

Cases confirmed in 45 countries now.