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Importing from the UK - definitive guide (Q and A)

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    #2942
    93Cab
    Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭93Cab


    Seems to be €2kish but would have to check it’s an NI car as it’s from a garage who put there own plates on every car


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    #2943
    93Cab
    Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭93Cab


    their own plates!


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    #2944
    Tomal
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Tomal


    Just wondering VRT on a 2000 BMW 4.2 E46 M3. Any one have any experience on this as cannot even get close on VRT calculator. Thanks


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    #2945
    93Cab
    Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭93Cab


    93Cab wrote: »
    Seems to be €2kish but would have to check it’s an NI car as it’s from a garage who put there own plates on every car

    Rang garage! English reg! Guy didn’t know anything about duty and VAT!


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    #2946
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Tomal wrote: »
    Just wondering VRT on a 2000 BMW 4.2 E46 M3. Any one have any experience on this as cannot even get close on VRT calculator. Thanks

    Just find one equivalent here on Carzone/DD, and call it 37% of that - that's as close as you'll get for now for VRT.

    Don't forget the 10% Customs and 21% VAT on the purchase price as well.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #2947
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I guess tax books are valuable things now. Just change the plates and drive on. Will be a lot of that going on here on out.

    until your first NCT that is..............

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #2948
    pale rider
    Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭pale rider


    93Cab wrote: »
    I’m probably mean by nature but I just can’t stomach paying the revenue €6.5k for the privilege of buying a car which is located roughly 12 miles from me...


    Me too, I brought in an 18 e220D last March from NI, VRT was €5300, if I brought in the same car ( now it’s a year older ) it’s €8600 before customs duty/vat.

    Hard to swallow for sure.


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    #2949
    sirlampsalot
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭sirlampsalot


    when taking a car through from England,does it have to be vrt within 30 days even if its not on the road?


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    #2950
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,222 ✭✭✭✭biko


    In short - yes. You cannot bring it over and register it months later, even if it off the road.
    Contact VRT and tell them you want it off the road and begin the process anyway.


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    #2951
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭reni10


    I am about to get a car I just bought from Northern Ireland through the VRT this week and is there anything else I need to do in advance of the VRT appointment now after Brexit?

    I did this previously a few years ago and I just needed the documents etc. but no other details were needed.

    I see on the VRT FAQ they are talking about a EORI number needed but I think this is for traders only and not private buyers?

    I am also thinking that because my vehicle was imported into Northern Ireland before the 31st Dec 2020 I only need to pay VRT and there would be no customs duty or VAT applied?


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    #2952
    User1998
    Registered Users Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭User1998


    You only need an EORI number if you have to pay vat and customs


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    #2953
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭reni10


    User1998 wrote: »
    You only need an EORI number if you have to pay vat and customs

    I have a used vehicle invoice from the dealer showing the date in 2020 when he purchased it and his address is in Northern Ireland so I take it that is sufficient to show at the VRT appointment and no Duty or VAT will be payable?


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    #2954
    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    reni10 wrote: »
    I have a used vehicle invoice from the dealer showing the date in 2020 when he purchased it and his address is in Northern Ireland so I take it that is sufficient to show at the VRT appointment and no Duty or VAT will be payable?

    sounds like you'll be Ok, hope so, hard to be sure of anything just now.


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    #2955
    User1998
    Registered Users Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭User1998


    reni10 wrote: »
    I have a used vehicle invoice from the dealer showing the date in 2020 when he purchased it and his address is in Northern Ireland so I take it that is sufficient to show at the VRT appointment and no Duty or VAT will be payable?

    Not necessarily, it might have been paid for in 2020 but the car could have stayed in the UK until last week for all you know? You don’t exactly have proof that the car wasn’t imported after brexit. Thread carefully


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    #2956
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭reni10


    User1998 wrote: »
    Not necessarily, it might have been paid for in 2020 but the car could have stayed in the UK until last week for all you know? You don’t exactly have proof that the car wasn’t imported after brexit. Thread carefully

    The car was posted for sale in NI in 2020 online and the invoice to the dealer has his address in NI so what other "proof" can there be?


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    #2957
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    reni10 wrote: »
    The car was posted for sale in NI in 2020 online and the invoice to the dealer has his address in NI so what other "proof" can there be?

    On the revenue website it says proof like a shipping manifest or an invoice. I'm not sure if there is a very strict set of documents required or if its a matter of providing enough evidence to satisfy the assessor.

    I think they have to be fair and reasonable, this is all new and the motor dealers would not have known back in 2020 what documents they should have kept on file.


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    #2958
    User1998
    Registered Users Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭User1998


    reni10 wrote: »
    The car was posted for sale in NI in 2020 online and the invoice to the dealer has his address in NI so what other "proof" can there be?

    I understand that, but I’ve bought cars from the UK and didn’t have them delivered until 6 months later. I’m just saying, an invoice isn’t proof of entry into the state. From Revenues point of view, the car could still be in the UK right now, getting engine or bodywork repair, etc etc.

    Technically, proof is a shipping document or ferry ticket, which it seems you don’t have.

    The VRT people may give leeway, I’m not sure. Hopefully they do


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    #2959
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    The VRT inspection offices offer advice as part of the service try provide. You can turn up and ask any questions you have and get clarification on what is required.


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    #2960
    Isambard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    User1998 wrote: »
    I understand that, but I’ve bought cars from the UK and didn’t have them delivered until 6 months later. I’m just saying, an invoice isn’t proof of entry into the state. From Revenues point of view, the car could still be in the UK right now, getting engine or bodywork repair, etc etc.

    Technically, proof is a shipping document or ferry ticket, which it seems you don’t have.

    The VRT people may give leeway, I’m not sure. Hopefully they do

    I don't think proof that the car was purchased in 2020 will be enough. It may have been purchased with no intention to bring it into NI, with the new owner subsequently spotting an opportunity.


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    #2961
    Prefect_1998
    Registered Users Posts: 967 ✭✭✭Prefect_1998


    any point bringing in a 2010 x5 at the moment from NI?


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    #2962
    User1998
    Registered Users Posts: 6,416 ✭✭✭User1998


    No, Nox is too high


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    #2963
    Vicxas
    Registered Users Posts: 15,348 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Is there any way to verify if a dealer had the car in NI before the 31st of December. Theres a few nice cars up north but i dont want to be stung with import duty on it.


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    #2964
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Is there any way to verify if a dealer had the car in NI before the 31st of December. Theres a few nice cars up north but i dont want to be stung with import duty on it.

    If you have a car in mind go into the VRT Inspection office and ask them what they need. Then Ask the Dealer if he has that documentation. Anything else is too risky.


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    #2965
    Cavanbhoy
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Cavanbhoy


    Hi what is the position about buying a new car of a dealer in Ni now is there vrt,nox, vat is there any other charges and is it different if purchasing from uk dealer. Thanks


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    #2966
    Pops_20
    Registered Users Posts: 711 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    Cavanbhoy wrote: »
    Hi what is the position about buying a new car of a dealer in Ni now is there vrt,nox, vat is there any other charges and is it different if purchasing from uk dealer. Thanks

    Are you talking about a brand new car? If it is new then you will have to pay VRT, NOX and VAT.

    If it is a used car then you only pay VRT and NOX charge. No VAT applies.


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    #2967
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Pops_20 wrote: »
    Are you talking about a brand new car? If it is new then you will have to pay VRT, NOX and VAT.

    If it is a used car then you only pay VRT and NOX charge. No VAT applies.

    If new, can it be bought in NI at ex vat price? Then, the ROI vat would be levied on the ex vat price, then plus VRT/nox?


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    #2968
    Dr Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Dr Dave


    Just a thought.
    A classic car >30 years old (that's 1991 BTW!!!), costs €200 VRT to import.
    So, would it be the case that one from NI would only be the VRT and one from the UK (not NI) would have customs and Vat as well?

    Thinking about this, is the NOx charge payable on such a classic,> 30 years old?


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    #2969
    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Just stuck a 2017 F10 520d through the calcualtor.
    Coming up at 7% band.
    CO2 is 119g so I'm assuming this is completely wrong


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    #2970
    deezell
    Registered Users Posts: 6,668 ✭✭✭deezell


    Wildly Boaring wrote: »
    Just stuck a 2017 F10 520d through the calcualtor.
    Coming up at 7% band.
    CO2 is 119g so I'm assuming this is completely wrong

    Probably. What stat code is the calculation showing..


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    #2971
    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Redid it a few times after
    Picked the different "F10 msport" options
    Found one showing CO2 of 119 so WLTP 148 and 21%
    Slightly lower OMSP then above

    So 5600 plus the NOX
    That looks right

    44587553

    This was the wrong one
    41187553

    Got another higher one but had the CO2 at 139g.....maybe older F10?


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