Coronavirus - Cheltenham

JoeyJJ

Horses are used to running with **** all about have you not noticed attendances last few years.

NaiveMelodies

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Yup
Listen to first 20 mins of yesterdays podcast
makes sense too when he explains it

What losses will gamblers have if festival is cancelled

BumperD

BumperD wrote: »

A case just entered through Dublin Airport from Italy. I’ll leave it at that.

So it looks like the match being called off was a great call

RivetingRoger

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Would be odd watching on TV with no buzz no atmosphere but still be a damn site better than not watching atall
Horses wouldn't give a feck either

It won't go ahead without racegoers.

RivetingRoger

Augeo wrote: »

It won't go ahead without racegoers.

Says you.......

RivetingRoger

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Says you.......

Time will tell.
The event without ticket revenue and on course betting activity etc etc won't be a pocket liner so it won't go ahead unless the crowds are there, IMO of course.

Basic enough common sense though.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/51641957

"Unlike in Japan and Hong Kong where race fixtures have been held behind closed doors, it is understood Cheltenham would not take place without spectators if any restrictions were placed on large crowds gathering in one place - 250,000 racegoers are expected over the four days"

Not just me saying this so

Pogue eile

Lucy8080 wrote: »

In the u.k. these last few days,schools and at least one g.p. practice have closed their doors.

This island has it's first confirmed case. It's three weeks out ,but if there is an increase in schools/g.p.s closing their doors, it would be reasonable to expect large sporting events will start being cancelled.

It's 11 days away not three weeks. And this is key, If Cheltenham was a month or more away I would be very concerned but there is no chance that this escalates enough in the next 11 days to warrant a cancellation.

RivetingRoger

Pogue eile wrote: »

It's 11 days away not three weeks. And this is key, If Cheltenham was a month or more away I would be very concerned but there is no chance that this escalates enough in the next 11 days to warrant a cancellation.

Thats the only hope


FWIW, Tiger Rolls 3 in a row won't happen now, at least not this year
Aintree ain't happening

Lucy8080

Pogue eile wrote: »

It's 11 days away not three weeks. And this is key, If Cheltenham was a month or more away I would be very concerned but there is no chance that this escalates enough in the next 11 days to warrant a cancellation.

Fair enough on the 11 Days. I did start my post in regards to the developing U.K. situation in the last few days which would take us to over a forthnight out . No point in splitting hairs.

British Government/ Chief Medical Officer advice will dictate whether the meeting takes place or not. Look at how the Italian situation/response developed in the last 11 days or more.

I don't think the final call is with-in the gift of the B.H.A./Jockey club or sponsors any more.

Pogue eile

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Fair enough on the 11 Days. I did start my post in regards to the developing U.K. situation in the last few days which would take us to over a forthnight out . No point in splitting hairs.

British Government/ Chief Medical Officer advice will dictate whether the meeting takes place or not. Look at how the Italian situation/response developed in the last 11 days or more.

I don't think the final call is with-in the gift of the B.H.A./Jockey club or sponsors any more.

The Italian situation is a bit of an outlier, they - in true Italian tradition - made a complete balls up of the whole situation and by the time they got their shi*t together it was too late. There have been plenty of isolated cases across Europe and none of them have escalated like in Italy.

longshotvalue

I know the general consensus is that i wouldnt know value if it hit me in the face, but 1.75 on betfair about it going ahead on day 1 is huge value. all that is happening is lads are having a bet on it not going ahead just in case, as a hedge.


should be 1.2 at the most, even taking into consideration the possibilities of ground etc.


There is definatly worse shorties every day.

Croll

Definitely agree, cheltenham to go ahead is the banker of the meeting

RivetingRoger

aidankkk wrote: »

I know the general consensus is that i wouldnt know value if it hit me in the face, but 1.75 on betfair about it going ahead on day 1 is huge value. all that is happening is lads are having a bet on it not going ahead just in case, as a hedge.


should be 1.2 at the most, even taking into consideration the possibilities of ground etc.


There is definatly worse shorties every day.

Pretty much exactly what Delargy said too

IAMAMORON

The UK has 19 confirmed cases. Unless that hits a few hundred by this Tuesday I would say racing is on. The Champions league is coming too, Madrid are heading to Liverpool, no cancellation there?

Stop scaremongering. The only person who can be certain is Kevin Blake, he seems to be the only person in authority on this.... and of course Ruby Walsh.:rolleyes:

Seemingly Ruby has been given out tips left right and centre. His big fancy?

Benie Des Dieux, wow Ruby baby thanks dude, stick your neck out there why don't ya?

Kevin Blake - Alleged senior advisor to the British Home Office and General Authority on Everything according to Raj.

Ruby Walsh former jockey turned bookies favourite. A racing enigma. Moustache optional.

NaiveMelodies

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Pretty much exactly what Delargy said too

What are they hedging against?

The Tetrarch

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

What are they hedging against?

If you have paid for flight and hotel up front you might lay Chjeltenham going ahead.
If Cheltenham goes ahead you are happy to attend, and lose a few Euro on your bet.
If Cheltenham is cancelled you collect a few Euro.

IAMAMORON

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

What are they hedging against?

Ante post bets.

FatRat

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Thats the only hope


FWIW, Tiger Rolls 3 in a row won't happen now, at least not this year
Aintree ain't happening

Well there you have it. Cancel your flights and plans for Aintree. I thought you said you were done scaring people and would say no more on it and leave the thread. Wasn't too bothered by it before but it's starting to take the piss now.

How about we use this thread for factual, reported news only? Might be an idea.

NaiveMelodies

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Ante post bets.

They'll be refunded.

The lads are talking pipe. Big players won't be concerned about losing money on a hotel room.

Gambling addicts might be the ones backing No.

RivetingRoger

FatRat wrote: »

Well there you have it. Cancel your flights and plans for Aintree. I thought you said you were done scaring people and would say no more on it and leave the thread. Wasn't too bothered by it before but it's starting to take the piss now.

How about we use this thread for factual, reported news only? Might be an idea.

Do you know what, with all due respect to a lot of ye here that i always have the craic with, would ye ever cop the f**k on


Ye think I WANT this to get cancelled??!! Me!
The fella who started a thread 240 f*ckin days ago with a countdown to this very festival!! A thread most of ye have been on!

Went into work on Jan 2nd and booked the week off and has hardly shut up about it since....ye think I am scare mongering and WANT it called off!


Very few people in my social circle are into racing, its not exactly s hot topic of chat among them, so if i want to be able to chat about it with lads i feel will understand where we are coming from, I come here, and ya, i said i wouldn't say anymore, but the closer it gets the more nervous I get so get the f**k over yourselves



If you don't like people discussing their fears for the most important week of the year.....ye know what ye can do!!

RivetingRoger

And yes, I realise i made a total tit of myself above...................

FatRat

I have similar nerves and fears but that's all they are at the end of the day. They're not facts. What's to happen will happen, best not to kill yourself thinking about it.

My issue is that people are fickle Roger, especially people just stopping by to check what the status of the racing is. It's best not to post statements like the racing will be cancelled when there's only speculation to back it up. It's given even more weight by the fact that someone has posted it on a popular racing forum.

IAMAMORON

RivetingRoger wrote: »

And yes, I realise i made a total tit of myself above...................

Rog, if you were a horse race...... it would be cancelled or called off.

RivetingRoger

FatRat wrote: »

I have similar nerves and fears but that's all they are at the end of the day. They're not facts. What's to happen will happen, best not to kill yourself thinking about it.

My issue is that people are fickle Roger, especially people just stopping by to check what the status of the racing is. It's best not to post statements like the racing will be cancelled when there's only speculation to back it up. It's given even more weight by the fact that someone has posted it on a popular racing forum.

So we should ignore and deflect from, without question, the single biggest talking point in racing right now is it?


There are far more chats amongst fans about whether we will have racing than who will win the supreme, if on a racing specific forum, we cant have similar discussions without being labelled a scare monger and a sensationalist etc then what the feck

I think my credentials as a Cheltenham fan are pretty bloody solid so to have lads going after me for wanting to discuss this is bloody annoying to be honest

RivetingRoger

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Rog, if you were a horse race...... it would be cancelled or called off.

I see what you did there, and I will give you that one!

Bangor Billy

Compiegne in France racing behind closed doors next week. Meeting of UK emergency commitee COBRA on Monday. I think we will know after that. Not optimistic myself.

Pogue eile

FatRat wrote: »

I have similar nerves and fears but that's all they are at the end of the day. They're not facts. What's to happen will happen, best not to kill yourself thinking about it.

My issue is that people are fickle Roger, especially people just stopping by to check what the status of the racing is. It's best not to post statements like the racing will be cancelled when there's only speculation to back it up. It's given even more weight by the fact that someone has posted it on a popular racing forum.

It would be a fairly quite forum if people were only allowed to post facts here!

Just today I have been asked by three different people if Cheltenham will go ahead, none of them would know the front end from the back end of a horse, it is a topical issue and of course it should be discussed here.

Only one thing worse that scare-mongering and thats burying ones head in the sand!

FatRat

RivetingRoger wrote: »

So we should ignore and deflect from, without question, the single biggest talking point in racing right now is it?


There are far more chats amongst fans about whether we will have racing than who will win the supreme, if on a racing specific forum, we cant have similar discussions without being labelled a scare monger and a sensationalist etc then what the feck

I think my credentials as a Cheltenham fan are pretty bloody solid so to have lads going after me for wanting to discuss this is bloody annoying to be honest

Roger my quip was that you said the Aintree festival will be cancelled. How about we leave this up to the BHA or UK government to decide.

By all means discuss away. I think I'll take leave from this thread.

ASOT

1.68 - Yes
2.44 - No
460k traded

RivetingRoger

FatRat wrote: »

Roger my quip was that you said the Aintree festival will be cancelled. How about we leave this up to the BHA or UK government to decide.

By all means discuss away. I think I'll take leave from this thread.

We won't fall out over it lad
Ah I just wish they could make a call one way or another

Croll

RivetingRoger wrote: »

We won't fall out over it lad
Ah I just wish they could make a call one way or another

It's too early yet to be making any calls, so much could change in a week, much more at stake than us losing money on flights and accomodation

The Tetrarch

Pogue eile wrote: »

It would be a fairly quite forum if people were only allowed to post facts here!

True. 90+% of posts are bull5hit.
But that is ok, we circle the truth with different ideas.

tucker1971

England play Wales in the rugby next saturday, full premier league schedule next weekend, and all the media are talking about is will Cheltenham go ahead?

IAMAMORON

tucker1971 wrote: »

England play Wales in the rugby next saturday, full premier league schedule next weekend, and all the media are talking about is will Cheltenham go ahead?

In fairness the only media I have heard it being discussed by is the racing media. I have not heard it yet from the mainstream media.

But you are spot on, no one is talking about cancelling rugby or soccer or the likes.

RivetingRoger

Saying that all week
why is it only Cheltenham being hounded
maybe its because we exist in an echo chamber on social media and so on, who knows

Bangor Billy

I can assure you that people in the UK are talking about soccer and rugby being cancelled.

BumperD

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Saying that all week
why is it only Cheltenham being hounded
maybe its because we exist in an echo chamber on social media and so on, who knows

Soccer and rugby don’t matter it’s all about horse racing:)

Echo echo echo

tucker1971

Bangor Billy wrote: »

I can assure you that people in the UK are talking about soccer and rugby being cancelled.

Yes, down the line. Not next weekends fixtures though.

RivetingRoger

Bangor Billy wrote: »

I can assure you that people in the UK are talking about soccer and rugby being cancelled.

Nothing like to the same extent, whatsoever

Bangor Billy

tucker1971 wrote: »

Yes, down the line. Not next weekends fixtures though.

As I said earlier there is a meeting of COBRA on Monday. Let's see what comes out of that.

IAMAMORON

Bangor Billy wrote: »

As I said earlier there is a meeting of COBRA on Monday. Let's see what comes out of that.

They sound like the bad guys in a Bond movie.

RivetingRoger

IAMAMORON wrote: »

They sound like the bad guys in a Bond movie.

Did you recently learn how to post images on here!
Thats 3 today!

The Tetrarch

Didn't know you were allowed post pictures of the Category Mods.

Lucy8080

Pogue eile wrote: »

The Italian situation is a bit of an outlier, they - in true Italian tradition - made a complete balls up of the whole situation and by the time they got their shi*t together it was too late. There have been plenty of isolated cases across Europe and none of them have escalated like in Italy.

I hope you're right ,I want aidankkk to collect a few bob on his bet . I just can't help feeling a little flat when normally I'd be very excited at this stage of the countdown.

SAM SO NITE

IAMAMORON wrote: »

They sound like the bad guys in a Bond movie.

I believe it is " Cabinet Office Briefing Room Alpha "that COBRA its an acronym for

supremenovice

French Government bans gatherings of more than 5,000 people.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations/french-ban-on-gatherings-of-more-than-5000-people-casts-doubt-over-irelands-six-nations-clash-in-paris-39001959.html

I'm usually dismissive of the media sensationalizing stories, but I have to say this throws a cat among the pigeons.
Will the British Government respond with similar measures over the next few days? I'd say its getting closer to Festival postponement than away from it as each day passes

Islander13

6/4 on a cancellation looks like a NAP bet

The Tetrarch

Events that look ideal for spreading a virus are tournament poker festivals.
It is usual to have almost a thousand to be in one room for about ten hours a day, and from three days to a week. Players and dealers can be from many countries.

The Geneva car show was cancelled, an indoor crowded event.

STB.

This is getting quite serious. 3 new positive tests in UK today. There is a stage that they will say enough.

The French are having the Compiegne race meetings next week behind closed doors.