CoronaVirus

Professor of Immunology at TCD calling for stricter travel protocol re Northern Italy. I see theres 2/3 flights a day to/from Milan. Isn’t it time that suspension of these services is considered? Its like holding up a welcome sign to the virus otherwise. Probably too late at this stage though.

Caranica

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Professor of Immunology at TCD calling for stricter travel protocol re Northern Italy. I see theres 2/3 flights a day to/from Milan. Isn’t it time that suspension of these services is considered? Its like holding up a welcome sign to the virus otherwise. Probably too late at this stage though.

It's not just Milan, it's Venice and Treviso too. Ryanair have just told me my flight is going ahead and there is no refund option. Waiting for my travel insurance to get back to me but I suspect that's a no too.

gmisk

NORTH1 wrote: »

I was flying out to venice at the end of this month, flying back through Verona. Aer lingus have email to say the flights have been cancelled and my account has been refunded.

The hotels in the area i staying in, booked through Expedia ,are refusing to refund the payment, but is offering dates to be used by the end of the year. This is unacceptable to me as I can't get the time off later in the year. Expedia who I booked through, say there policy is to except the hotels policy on the matter.

I have Blue insurance, I will see if they will cover the hotel costs.

Any advice is welcome. Thanks.

I am in similar boat tbh
Allianz will not cover hotel.

I'd say aerlingus will cancel my flights nearer time (they won't give me a refund currently)....hotel won't budge will only let me move booking to end off Nov...when things probably be worse!

Johnny Sausage

gmisk wrote: »

I am in similar boat tbh
Allianz will not cover hotel.

I'd say aerlingus will cancel my flights nearer time (they won't give me a refund currently)....hotel won't budge will only let me move booking to end off Nov...when things probably be worse!

or everything will be back to normal, its nearly 9 months away

Tenzor07

lilmissprincess wrote: »

Was meant to be going to Seattle over Easter, its somewhat in doubt now...

Why's that? Flights are still running to Seattle now...

Caranica

Caranica wrote: »

It's not just Milan, it's Venice and Treviso too. Ryanair have just told me my flight is going ahead and there is no refund option. Waiting for my travel insurance to get back to me but I suspect that's a no too.

What if they upgrade the alert to a more mandatory sounding ‘do not go’ status before you go? Does your insurance provider provide any clarity at all on what alert status may trigger a compensation payout?

gmisk

Johnny Sausage wrote: »

or everything will be back to normal, its nearly 9 months away

True but given the madness in Italy I am not too hopeful, plus hard to pick a date out of thin air at this stage.

Ludo

gmisk wrote: »

I am in similar boat tbh
Allianz will not cover hotel.

I'd say aerlingus will cancel my flights nearer time (they won't give me a refund currently)....hotel won't budge will only let me move booking to end off Nov...when things probably be worse!

But they will be worse EVERYWHERE including here...so you may as well go to Italy and enjoy a holiday.

gmisk

Ludo wrote: »

But they will be worse EVERYWHERE including here...so you may as well go to Italy and enjoy a holiday.

I have a dog (who will be with a minder), plus had pneumonia before so rather be locked down in my own home if it comes to that.

Tenzor07

Ludo wrote: »

so you may as well go to Italy and enjoy a holiday.

As I've said in previous posts, i'd be less worried about getting there and where to stay, rather that when you're on hols looking for something to do that bars, restaurants and other public attractions would be closed and public transport curtailed also..

Italy is the epicenter of the virus in Europe, and I would hope that no other country will have to experience the virus to that level and we start to see a reduction in new cases..

SusanC10

Have Aer Lingus cancelled all Flights to Northern Italy from Ireland ?

Travel Insurance confirmed this am that if DFA Travel Advisory is the same as now or higher (worse) 14 days before we are due to travel to Italy, then they will cover our Flights and Accommodation.

Too far away (June) for Aer Lingus or Eurocamp to offer anything yet.

Wisesmurf

Tenzor07 wrote: »

As I've said in previous posts, i'd be less worried about getting there and where to stay, rather that when you're on hols looking for something to do that bars, restaurants and other public attractions would be closed and public transport curtailed also..

Italy is the epicenter of the virus in Europe, and I would hope that no other country will have to experience the virus to that level and we start to see a reduction in new cases..

Or worse - needing to be hospitalised or quarantined in a country that isn't you own.

testtech05

SusanC10 wrote: »

Have Aer Lingus cancelled all Flights to Northern Italy from Ireland ?

Travel Insurance confirmed this am that if DFA Travel Advisory is the same as now or higher (worse) 14 days before we are due to travel to Italy, then they will cover our Flights and Accommodation.

Too far away (June) for Aer Lingus or Eurocamp to offer anything yet.

Here's what they told me earlier:

Hi, we continue to closely follow developments on the Coronavirus outbreak and will provide further updates on our website if there is any significant change to the situation.
At this time, we have cancelled service to:
Milan/Linate (LIN) - 05MAR to 31MAR except 08/09/10MAR
Milan/Malpensa (MXP) - 06MAR to 31MAR except 08/09MAR
Verona (VRN) - 14MAR to 31MAR
Venice (VCE) - 06MAR to 31MAR
Mayumi profile
We are not offering refunds nor waiving change fees for flights not listed above.

MadYaker

gmisk wrote: »

I am going to lose 240 for flights and 2.5k for hotel.

Holy smokes Batman! 2.5k is a lot money to be going down the sh!ter but I’m not sure what you can do. Hotels are going to lose out big over this so they’ll be avoiding as many refunds as possible. If you took out a travel insurance policy before you booked the hotel you can try claiming but if that’s not an option I’d say you just have to swallow it.

gmisk

testtech05 wrote: »

Here's what they told me earlier:

Hi, we continue to closely follow developments on the Coronavirus outbreak and will provide further updates on our website if there is any significant change to the situation.
At this time, we have cancelled service to:
Milan/Linate (LIN) - 05MAR to 31MAR except 08/09/10MAR
Milan/Malpensa (MXP) - 06MAR to 31MAR except 08/09MAR
Verona (VRN) - 14MAR to 31MAR
Venice (VCE) - 06MAR to 31MAR
Mayumi profile
We are not offering refunds nor waiving change fees for flights not listed above.

From talking to them online as well chances are the flights in April will be cancelled to those places too in April and you will be offered a refund or to change your dates

gmisk

MadYaker wrote: »

Holy smokes Batman! 2.5k is a lot money to be going down the sh!ter but I’m not sure what you can do. Hotels are going to lose out big over this so they’ll be avoiding as many refunds as possible. If you took out a travel insurance policy before you booked the hotel you can try claiming but if that’s not an option I’d say you just have to swallow it.

I have travel insurance with Allianz but they aren't covering it....which is hugely helpful...
So went back to hotel to see if they will consider extending time period when we could visit.

NORTH1

gmisk wrote: »

I have travel insurance with Allianz but they aren't covering it....which is hugely helpful...
So went back to hotel to see if they will consider extending time period when we could visit.

I'm in the same boat with the hotels. They are not offering refunds on the hotel stay, but they are offering dates later in the year.

gmisk

NORTH1 wrote: »

I'm in the same boat with the hotels. They are not offering refunds on the hotel stay, but they are offering dates later in the year.

At least I am not alone in it.
I am gonna try and convince them to move to next year..

Ludo

SusanC10 wrote: »

Have Aer Lingus cancelled all Flights to Northern Italy from Ireland ?

Travel Insurance confirmed this am that if DFA Travel Advisory is the same as now or higher (worse) 14 days before we are due to travel to Italy, then they will cover our Flights and Accommodation.

Too far away (June) for Aer Lingus or Eurocamp to offer anything yet.

Can I enquire which insurer that was please?
Hope that's not a personal question

channaigh

I'm suppose to go to Amsterdam this weekend husband wants to go I'm not too sure. I keep saying see what happens tomorrow.
Would you travel this weekend?

gmisk

NORTH1 wrote: »

I'm in the same boat with the hotels. They are not offering refunds on the hotel stay, but they are offering dates later in the year.

I rang hotel directly they were really nice and hugely understanding.
No refund.
But!...They have given me til the end of 2021 to visit! So happy with that no rush to rebook etc.
Good luck with yours.
Just need to try for flights now (good chance aerlingus will cancel) but I'd happily lose the money nearly at this stage

gmisk

channaigh wrote: »

I'm suppose to go to Amsterdam this weekend husband wants to go I'm not too sure. I keep saying see what happens tomorrow.
Would you travel this weekend?

I personally would (number of cases fairly small) take usual precautions, but make sure you have your EHIC and travel insurance.

channaigh

gmisk wrote: »

I personally would (number of cases fairly small) take usual precautions, but make sure you have your EHIC and travel insurance.

Thanks for that have travel insurance but think my ehic card is out of date
Might try hotel and see if they will let us rebook

Micky 32

I have a aerlingus flight to JFK and then i go on to CT in late April.

Any thoughts on the risk factor? Dublin airport and JFK could be risky with all the people in one place?

Tenzor07

channaigh wrote: »

I'm suppose to go to Amsterdam this weekend husband wants to go I'm not too sure. I keep saying see what happens tomorrow.
Would you travel this weekend?

Are you over 60?
Any underlying health issues?
Are you immunosuppressed?

If no to the above then go, take normal precautions, wash hands, use antibacterial gel, stay away from people coughing/sneezing and don't touch your face after being on public transport...

killbillvol2

gmisk wrote: »

I rang hotel directly they were really nice and hugely understanding.
No refund.
But!...They have given me til the end of 2021 to visit! So happy with that no rush to rebook etc.
Good luck with yours.
Just need to try for flights now (good chance aerlingus will cancel) but I'd happily lose the money nearly at this stage

I think you're jumping the gun with the flights. Aer Lingus will almost certainly cancel flights in April if the situation doesn't change. They just don't want to say it yet. I'd say bide your time and you'll get refunds when they cancel the flights.

Very decent of the hotel btw.

Tenzor07

Micky 32 wrote: »

Any thoughts on the risk factor? Dublin airport and JFK could be risky with all the people in one place?

I haven't heard any news on multiple infections for airport staff, so take normal precautions..

gmisk

channaigh wrote: »

Thanks for that have travel insurance but think my ehic card is out of date
Might try hotel and see if they will let us rebook

Handy to have it anyway.
I just printed filled it out and posted.

https://www2.hse.ie/services/ehic/ehic.html
RE hotel definitely no harm in trying

gmisk

killbillvol2 wrote: »

I think you're jumping the gun with the flights. Aer Lingus will almost certainly cancel flights in April if the situation doesn't change. They just don't want to say it yet. I'd say bide your time and you'll get refunds when they cancel the flights.

Very decent of the hotel btw.

Thanks for that I would say you are right.
Tbh the hotel was priority believe me.

Really nice of hotel was seriously delighted I realised they had no obligation

SusanC10

Ludo wrote: »

Can I enquire which insurer that was please?
Hope that's not a personal question

VHI Multi-trip Annual Policy which we have continually renewed for the past few years so they said we had continued cover.

You must have private health insurance to get to policy we have.

mikesavo2003

Due to travel to Liverpool game this weekend with my son. Fly from Knock to Liverpool. Don't really mind the travel bit but nervous of the 60,000 at the game with all advice saying to avoid mass gatherings. What would most ppl do?

Johnny Sausage

mikesavo2003 wrote: »

Due to travel to Liverpool game this weekend with my son. Fly from Knock to Liverpool. Don't really mind the travel bit but nervous of the 60,000 at the game with all advice saying to avoid mass gatherings. What would most ppl do?

give me your tickets to the game

honestly, you'll be grand...

stargazer 68

Johnny Sausage wrote: »

give me your tickets to the game

honestly, you'll be grand...

Someone posted on another thread that they weren't going to the game in Paris next week - was sorely tempted to say the same as you!

munchkin_utd

Johnny Sausage wrote: »

give me your tickets to the game

honestly, you'll be grand...

nobody under 10 has died anywhere in the world, barely anyone under 60 has died anywhere in the world, in italy only 60+ year olds with existing chronic conditions died.

So.... if you are a 60+ year old father of a 10 year old, with chronic illnesses, preferably respiratory (but heart and kidney ilnesses also can be problematic) then be worried, buy 2 months worth of food and hide.

Otherwise, go to the match. The chances of you ending up a gonner through the virus is probably less than the chance of dying on the way to the airport in a car accident. And dont worry about your son.

Silvius

Supposed to be going to an event in Barcelona at the end of March - haven't flights or hotel booked yet so won't lose much money if I don't go. Have been looking forward to this trip and need a break BUT have an underlying health condition that could make coronavirus a very big deal for me so don't know what to do. What would most people do?

munchkin_utd

Silvius wrote: »

Supposed to be going to an event in Barcelona at the end of March - haven't flights or hotel booked yet so won't lose much money if I don't go. Have been looking forward to this trip and need a break BUT have an underlying health condition that could make coronavirus a very big deal for me so don't know what to do. What would most people do?

I wouldnt travel. Whether the virus is more prevalent there or in Ireland is an open question.

I wouldnt want to be caught out abroad needing intensive care PLUS if you need repatriation (private medical jet back) this might not be covered by insurance which has clauses excluding payments for existing conditions and some also now refusing to pay for corona virus related claims

mikesavo2003

Thanks for replies everyone. Not overly concerned about myself or young lad getting it but more concerned about picking it up and spreading it when I get home. Young baby at home (I know there is no huge evidence of it affecting them but still nervous of it) and also father 80yo with weak immune system

Silvius

Thanks - didn't think about the medical insurance side of it!

deisemum

I've booked a trip to Puglia flying out on April 3rd, I'm going to wait until a few days before travelling to decide if we go or not and what the Dept. of Foreign Affairs advise.

Silvius

In case this may be relevant to anyone else - I've checked out my travel/health insurance situation and would be covered for coronavirus-related medical care as long as the Dept. of Foreign Affairs advice is that it is safe to travel. If they advise against non-essential travel then I wouldn't be covered.

otnomart

gmisk wrote: »

I rang hotel directly they were really nice and hugely understanding.
No refund.
But!...They have given me til the end of 2021 to visit! So happy with that no rush to rebook etc.

That was really class on their part !
I am really impressed.

RoYoBo

Silvius wrote: »

In case this may be relevant to anyone else - I've checked out my travel/health insurance situation and would be covered for coronavirus-related medical care as long as the Dept. of Foreign Affairs advice is that it is safe to travel. If they advise against non-essential travel then I wouldn't be covered.

It seems a bit of a catch 22 to me with insurance. If you don't go, you won't get travel expenses back unless DFA has explicitly banned it, but if you go when there's an advisory only, you won't be covered either.

Insurance and airlines win every time ...

pinkypinky

I really hate the limbo of it all.

It's a terrible thing to wish things will get worse in a particular location so that DFA might upgrade to a level where I won't lose a lot of money (I can't afford to lose) if I cancel.

woodchuck

pinkypinky wrote: »

I really hate the limbo of it all.

Yeah this is the real kicker. I'm supposed to be going to Morocco in 3 weeks and normally I'd be getting really excited, planning activities etc. Atm I'm still planning to go, but a lot can change in 3 weeks. Like if I'm asked to self-isolate or something.

We're also getting married this year and haven't booked our honeymoon yet. Can't seem to get excited about it for some reason :rolleyes:

johnire

I agree with everything you’ve said. We due to go to South America in a few weeks and even if we do get going the issue still remains is everything going to be open and will there be restrictions in general? If that’s the case it takes the whole good out of the trip.

woodchuck wrote: »

Yeah this is the real kicker. I'm supposed to be going to Morocco in 3 weeks and normally I'd be getting really excited, planning activities etc. Atm I'm still planning to go, but a lot can change in 3 weeks. Like if I'm asked to self-isolate or something.

We're also getting married this year and haven't booked our honeymoon yet. Can't seem to get excited about it for some reason :rolleyes:

Ms2011

We're supposed to be going to Orlando in the summer, first holiday in 6 years. The thoughts of having to disappoint my 5 & 8 year is killing me worse than the thoughts of losing any money

Gael23

I have an escorted tour booked to Italy which is likely to be cancelled. I booked my flights separate to the tour so will my travel insurance pay out for those?

Wuff Wuff

Gael23 wrote: »

I have an escorted tour booked to Italy which is likely to be cancelled. I booked my flights separate to the tour so will my travel insurance pay out for those?

are the flights benig cancelled by the airline?

Gael23

Wuff Wuff wrote: »

are the flights benig cancelled by the airline?

No but the trip I was going on is very likely to be

munchkin_utd

Ms2011 wrote: »

We're supposed to be going to Orlando in the summer, first holiday in 6 years. The thoughts of having to disappoint my 5 & 8 year is killing me worse than the thoughts of losing any money

if this is like the flu (just worse), it will have fizzled out by then, just like the normal flu does in the summer.
I wouldnt be worrying too much about it yet.