I did not want to show the world the sadness in my eyes.

tdf7187

In new scandal, it has been revealed that pop singer "Duffy" was held captive for nine years some days by crazed sex rapists.

Mod

It is still vague over details, but definitely NOT years

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/duffy-kidnapping-rape-return-statement-958217/

callaway92

tdf7187 wrote: »

In new scandal, it has been revealed that pop singer "Duffy" was held captive for nine years by crazed sex rapists.

‘ The pop star Duffy has revealed that she was "raped, drugged and held captive" for several days. ’

Atlantic Dawn

callaway92 wrote: »

‘ The pop star Duffy has revealed that she was "raped, drugged and held captive" for several days. ’

She doesn't say when it happened either, was it last week, last year, when her album sales dropped, when?

KungPao

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

For "some days" not 9 bloody years.

That’s some Josef Fritzl ****.

anewme

I did think she disappeared all of a sudden and went totally off the radar.

Makes sense now. Hope shes doing ok. Horrible ordeal.

KungPao

tdf7187 wrote: »

Troubled Welsh songstress kidnapped for nine days/weeks/years.

I’m interested in hearing Shane Duffy’s thoughts on this.

And where’s Patrick Duffy of Dallas fame? I’d’ve expected a press release by now.

29 years as a sex slave. Shocking stuff.

tdf7187

KungPao wrote: »

I’m interested in hearing Shane Duffy’s thoughts on this.

And where’s Patrick Duffy of Dallas fame? I’d’ve expected a press release by now.

29 years as a sex slave. Shocking stuff.

Have you ever considered opportunities in the adult industry arena?

I seek merely information.

StupidLikeAFox

KungPao wrote: »

And where’s Patrick Duffy of Dallas fame? I’d’ve expected a press release by now.

He's still in the shower

AllForIt

Isn't the normal procedure to go to the police on such matters rather than 'revealing' this to the press randomly.

_Whimsical_

AllForIt wrote: »

Isn't the normal procedure to go to the police on such matters rather than 'revealing' this to the press randomly.

Presumably she did but then was too traumatised for several years to consider a very public career. Makes more sense than her popping up a week after the event all singing all dancing with a book and a dailymail cover interview.
It's surprising and somewhat pitiful to see something so awful being ridiculed here ( not addressing you specifically OP).

hibble

Dark Sun glasses could have taken care of things.

anewme

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Presumably she did but then was too traumatised for several years to consider a very public career. Makes more sense than her popping up a week after the event all singing all dancing with a book and a dailymail cover interview.
It's surprising and somewhat pitiful to see something so awful being ridiculed here ( not addressing you specifically OP).

Agreed.

A few years after she disappeared, I did wonder if she was seriously or terminally ill, she really did "disappear" rather than just dropped from the record Company. She has clearly been trying to heal.

I'd say a load is lifted off her mind once she spoke out. She references confiding in a journalist.

It is poor that rape and kidnap is treated as a source for jokes. Its really nothing to be sneered at.

Sounds awful. It makes sense that if you think you were targeted because of your stardom, you'd take a step back, I suppose.

AllForIt

I'm not ridiculing anyone but one can't help have a few questions about this. 'A few days' is not like an hour or two. It's kidnapping. How could noone not have know about this, her friends, family etc. She must have been officially 'missing' by that length of time. When a crime event occurs of this nature it's not normally up to the victim to decide when or if to release the story to the press, it's the police. Why didn't the police reveal this story to the media. Was there not a manhunt? Did they make any attempts to identify him? He couldn't be in custody or the story would be in the press through the courts already. If the event was so traumatic why on earth is she revealing this to the world now?

Very odd story

<Snip - inappropriate lyrics>>

Oh, and she revealed all this on...Instagram. INSTAGRAM!

AllForIt

AllForIt wrote: »

Isn't the normal procedure to go to the police on such matters rather than 'revealing' this to the press randomly.

Glad I am not the only one to have scepticism. No mention anywhere of reporting it to the police so assuming she never went to them.

I am increasingly suspicious of celebs revealing via social media that they were the victim of crimes. It is too easy to get attention, sympathy, publicity and does not require any evidence or verification.

I think the first step would be the legal route if you are the victim of a crime as serious as this. Name names. Let the authorities investigate.

suicide_circus

presumably the perpetrator has been dealt with by the courts, how that was kept out if the media is another question. poor girl.

El_Duderino 09

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Glad I am not the only one to have scepticism. No mention anywhere of reporting it to the police so assuming she never went to them.

I am increasingly suspicious of celebs revealing via social media that they were the victim of crimes. It is too easy to get attention, sympathy, publicity and does not require any evidence or verification.

As a victim of rape, they might well get attention, sympathy, publicity. But they’ll equally get people like you who will assume the worst of THEM for even mentioning it.

Silly woman should probably have just been raped and been quiet about it. Or at least she should give you the police report number so you can go verify it. FFS.

El_Duderino 09

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

As a victim of rape, they might well get attention, sympathy, publicity. But they’ll equally get people like you who will assume the worst of THEM for bc even mentioning it.

Silly woman should probably have just been raped and been quiet about it. Or at least she should give you the police report number so you can go verify it. FFS.

I think you are projecting extreme views onto me. I am not saying I disbelieve her story i just feel that for such a serious crime as this there would be one or two more details. It is just vague enough to have me feeling a bit sceptical.

B.A._Baracus

I like to think she's telling the truth.
That said, if it came out as all lies I wouldn't be shocked either. We live in a mad world.

The Satanist

I believe her.

El_Duderino 09

The Satanist wrote: »

I believe her.

I don’t believe her just because she said it. All we have is one person’s word. But I don’t disbelieve her either.

If someone’s tells me they were raped I’d treat them with the compassion as if they definitely were raped but I’d also want to verify whether it’s actually true before I’d believe it.

eviltwin

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I don’t believe her just because she said it. All we have is one person’s word. But I don’t disbelieve her either.

If someone’s tells me they were raped I’d treat them with the compassion as if they definitely were raped but I’d also want to verify whether it’s actually true before I’d believe it.

How do you verify its true?

biko

Thread started badly and went downhill from there.

El_Duderino 09

eviltwin wrote: »

How do you verify its true?

I won’t be involved in the case at all so I’ll never verify it. Will you be involved?

Ted_YNWA

Lads, surely it goes without saying that he lyrics of Mercy are hardly deemed witty or funny given this allegation.

EmmetSpiceland

Always wondered what happened to her. Her album ‘Rockferry’ is excellent, ‘Warwick Avenue’ would be the “stand out” track for me.

I remember reading one of her producer/collaborators, one of the guys from Suede, saying she fell in with a bad crowd.

Hope she gets the help, and support, she needs and we hear more music from her again.

witchgirl26

AllForIt wrote: »

I'm not ridiculing anyone but one can't help have a few questions about this. 'A few days' is not like an hour or two. It's kidnapping. How could noone not have know about this, her friends, family etc. She must have been officially 'missing' by that length of time. When a crime event occurs of this nature it's not normally up to the victim to decide when or if to release the story to the press, it's the police. Why didn't the police reveal this story to the media. Was there not a manhunt? Did they make any attempts to identify him? He couldn't be in custody or the story would be in the press through the courts already. If the event was so traumatic why on earth is she revealing this to the world now?

Very odd story

<Snip - inappropriate lyrics>>

Oh, and she revealed all this on...Instagram. INSTAGRAM!

Have you maybe considered that it could have been done by a partner? Most crimes like rape aren't committed by a random stranger but rather by someone known to the victim. Maybe she wasn't reported missing as it was her partner holding her which wouldn't have necessarily aroused suspicion.

Maybe she's revealing it because she wants to move on with her life and music and knows that some red-top newspaper will find out about it and splash it everywhere so she's able to control it more this way. Similar to Philip Scofield's coming out in that he was able to control his narrative by announcing it himself.

I'm also confused - what's so bad with Instagram? What way, in your esteemed opinion, should she have announced it?

Grab All Association

Nobody on here can say for certain whether she was raped or not unless we witnessed it. She’d have a lot to lose lying about this though. Now what’ll happen the next few days is feminists/Libs coming out saying blah blah blah blah change laws
Conservatives saying blah blah blah blah blah don’t change laws

If not thoroughly investigated already, it needs to be and people shouldn’t really comment until more facts come out about this.

Lonesomerhodes

Deleted User wrote: »

Glad I am not the only one to have scepticism. No mention anywhere of reporting it to the police so assuming she never went to them.

I am increasingly suspicious of celebs revealing via social media that they were the victim of crimes. It is too easy to get attention, sympathy, publicity and does not require any evidence or verification.

I think the first step would be the legal route if you are the victim of a crime as serious as this. Name names. Let the authorities investigate.

Very good post.

Instagram is a terrible place to release this story.


If it's true why go to Instagram of all places to reveal it?


Instagram is the most facile, vacuous and bullcrap app in World to release such a story.

seamus

How the fvck did this degenerate into "I wonder if she's lying"?

Some sick people around here tbh.

AllForIt wrote: »

Isn't the normal procedure to go to the police on such matters rather than 'revealing' this to the press randomly.

A journalist tracked her down and got in touch with her to ask her where she'd gone, and she agreed to go ahead and talk about.

So it's not like she planned out some great burst into the spotlight on the back of a traumatic story.

El_Duderino 09

Lonesomerhodes wrote: »

Very good post.

Instagram is a terrible place to release this story.


If it's true why go to Instagram of all places to reveal it?


Instagram is the most facile, vacuous and bullcrap app in World to release such a story.

I have never used Instagram but I gather it's like twitter except you aren't limited to 140 characters. So it's a media outlet where you can get your story out, unfiltered and unedited by anyone else. If It's a choice between a tabloid breaking a story, and you doing it yourself, Instagram is easily the better of those two options.

But for anyone looking to discredit HER, the fact that she used Instagram seems to be a popular criticism. Some people are genuinely nasty and their first instinct is to be nasty.

Bobblehats

seamus wrote: »

How the fvck did this degenerate into "I wonder if she's lying”

Well I don’t see any great sadness there, do you?

That’s right. She failed the eye detector test

Millicently

Sorry but I'm not buying into this. Maybe it's true maybe it's not. Some people want to believe this #ibelieveher but I think it's naive and dangerous. Has she a new album to launch soon? The photograph that I saw of her with the 'sadness in my eyes' looked very phony and staged, I've seen sadder looking sandwiches. If it's true I feel sorry for her, but at this stage I've just heard too much fakeness and it smacks of jumping on the Flack death bandwagon.

seamus

Instagram is a bit like Facebook except that it's not meant for conversations.

Twitter is for angry conversations, Facebook puts conversations front and centre, but Instagram makes it all about the post. People can comment, but the comments are left in the background, mostly hidden from sight.

As a result, the urge to post nasty comments is lessened, and people generally can't share the picture or the comments with others. This is why you never really hear about "storms" blowing up on Instagram. It's not that kind of platform.

For the most part Instagram's engagement model can be summarised as "Like my picture or piss off".

This makes it the ideal place for "Press Release" style things like this, because the poster isn't starting a conversation, they're just making a statement.

anewme

seamus wrote: »

This makes it the ideal place for "Press Release" style things like this, because the poster isn't starting a conversation, they're just making a statement.

She is quoted on the BBC as saying she will answer questions in due course.

The biggest step in something like this, is admitting it, openly, when you are in a place to do that, which she clearly is now.

Then taking a step back to move forward. Once its out, its out and she can hopefully put whatever she is dealing with in the past.

El_Duderino 09

Millicently wrote: »

Sorry but I'm not buying into this. Maybe it's true maybe it's not. Some people want to believe this #ibelieveher but I think it's naive and dangerous. Has she a new album to launch soon? The photograph that I saw of her with the 'sadness in my eyes' looked very phony and staged, I've seen sadder looking sandwiches. If it's true I feel sorry for her, but at this stage I've just heard too much fakeness and it smacks of jumping on the Flack death bandwagon.

Nobody is asking you to buy anything.

The bit in bold is perfect and it would have been a good post if you left it there. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not.

You assessing the sadness in her eyes is pure nonsense and cheapens what is (or should be) a fairly serious topic.

Maybe it's true, maybe it's not.

Tacitus Kilgore

Jesus boards can be a right cesspit, some right fuckin arseholes in here already.


You can even predict who's going to roll in and all :rolleyes:

eviltwin

Millicently wrote: »

Sorry but I'm not buying into this. Maybe it's true maybe it's not. Some people want to believe this #ibelieveher but I think it's naive and dangerous. Has she a new album to launch soon? The photograph that I saw of her with the 'sadness in my eyes' looked very phony and staged, I've seen sadder looking sandwiches. If it's true I feel sorry for her, but at this stage I've just heard too much fakeness and it smacks of jumping on the Flack death bandwagon.

That's an old photo.

LineOfBeauty

Some interesting reactions, with the more extremes ones ranging from basically saying the gall of her thinking that we care to outright nah didn't happen. Any wonder why women sometimes feel it's not worth it or that people will feel it's somehow their fault for something like this happening.

sbsquarepants

Deleted User wrote: »

Glad I am not the only one to have scepticism. No mention anywhere of reporting it to the police so assuming she never went to them.

.

Ah come on now ffs!

I wouldn't go convicting some poor bastard on her word alone, but it seems a crazy way to reintroduce yourself to the limelight. I'm sure she could have just picked up the phone and got back on telly if she wanted!

El_Duderino 09

eviltwin wrote: »

That's an old photo.

I suppose they can fall back on criticising her for using Snapchat. "What a dope for getting raped and talking about it ON INSTAGRAM".

As if looking for ways to have a pop at her is the first thing some people think of when they hear a lass say she was raped. That's genuinely fascination to see that's how some people's minds work.

Tacitus Kilgore

Deleted User wrote: »

Glad I am not the only one to have scepticism. No mention anywhere of reporting it to the police so assuming she never went to them.

I am increasingly suspicious of celebs revealing via social media that they were the victim of crimes. It is too easy to get attention, sympathy, publicity and does not require any evidence or verification.

I think the first step would be the legal route if you are the victim of a crime as serious as this. Name names. Let the authorities investigate.

Where are you getting this from? Are you certain it hasn't been investigated? Or even completely dealt with? Or even what jurisdiction it happened in?

No, you've no idea - all you have to go off is the same instagram screenshot as the rest of us but decide she's lying right off the bat.

No wonder women feel they can't report/say anything.

Idle Passerby

I find the suspicious reactions here really disheartening. The way I read this is a public figure dropped out of the limelight several years ago, someone decides to ask her why, she responds saying "well I went through a very traumatic experience, which I have now processed and moved on from. I'm willing to talk about it further if your interested."

It's fairly cynical to jump to the conclusion she's lying. Sexual assault is incredibly common after all, it's not remotely surprising that sometimes public figures are victim to it, just the same as ordinary nobodies are. Everyone processes horrible experiences differently.

I don't get why people who are completely unconnected feel it's their right to decide how someone they've never met should present their experience or how their recovery from it should look on the outside.

For all anyone knows this was reported to the authorities. Just because that's not mentioned in the post doesn't mean it didn't happen.

magic_murph

calling a Jussie Smollett

Raconteuse

Jaysus the people who outright don't believe her. It really has become fashionable.

Although while I believe it, I don't understand telling the media about it.

El_Duderino 09

Raconteuse wrote: »

Jaysus the people who outright don't believe her. It really has become fashionable.

Although while I believe it, I don't understand telling the media about it.

How can you believe it? You have so little evidence.

Outright believing it is exactly as illogical as outright disbelieving it.

Tacitus Kilgore

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

How can you believe it? You have so little evidence.

Outright believing it is exactly as illogical as outright disbelieving it.

Well I didn't believe it before I heard about / read her statement, and with nothing to counter I have no reason not to.

See that's the thing, seems to be cool to automatically say "i don't believe you" when a woman notes that she has been sexually assaulted.

magic_murph

Too many people craving attention these days that why so many people are skeptical and rightly so.

El_Duderino 09

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Well I didn't believe it before I heard about / read her statement, and with nothing to counter I have no reason not to.

See that's the thing, seems to be cool to automatically say "i don't believe you" when a woman notes that she has been sexually assaulted.

I completely agree its seen by some as edgy to say they don't believe her. But I can't believe anything with so little evidence.

My approach is, if someone’s tells me they were raped I’d treat them with the compassion as if they definitely were raped but I’d also want to verify whether it’s actually true before I’d believe it.

In practice, if you believe it just because she said it happened then that prejudices your view of the person who is accused. And that's not fair based on so little evidence.

So I'd be inclined to treat her as if it happened but that wouldn't mean I'd just believe it happened without enough evidence to believe it. And this is not enough evidence to believe it happened

retro:electro

I don’t know why people are so quick to dismiss this as bullshlt. She hasn’t accused anyone in particular, she hasn’t named any names and there is no counter story that refutes her version.

She is just explaining why she has spent some time away from the spotlight after something violent and distressing happened to her. Calling it out as bull**** for absolutely no reason is quite bizarre. We have no reason to believe she would lie about this.

To automatically assume she is lying is to believe that things like this can’t and don’t happen in the world. And we know that they do.

Tacitus Kilgore

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I completely agree its seen by some as edgy to say they don't believe her. But I can't believe anything with so little evidence.

My approach is, if someone’s tells me they were raped I’d treat them with the compassion as if they definitely were raped but I’d also want to verify whether it’s actually true before I’d believe it.

In practice, if you believe it just because she said it happened then that prejudices your view of the person who is accused. And that's not fair based on so little evidence.

So I'd be inclined to treat her as if it happened but that wouldn't mean I'd just believe it happened without enough evidence to believe it. And this is not enough evidence to believe it happened

You're not wrong, but is there enough anything to say it didn't?


This is the problem, as soon as a woman says anything - she has not made a single accusation by the way just noted that she went through something horrific - people feel the need to say "well, you could be lying" without a single shred of anything contrary.