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Corona Virus and events

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    8 waves of 4, easy

    40 waves of 25? That sounds tricky to organise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭echancrure


    The Covid numbers are pretty good right now in Ireland.
    Out of 1000 people what is the chance of having someone infected at the moment?
    At the moment 10 cases are detected everyday, let's say that's only 1/3 of the real infection, that's 30 cases, infectious for 14 days, that's 420 people walking around in Ireland at the moment who are infectious out of 5 millions. That's an incidence of 0.084 per 1000 people.

    So if a race has 10 000 runners one of them is probably infectious. That's at the moment.

    The same calculation can be done if the numbers of cases decrease further, mitigation must also be implemented.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭jlang


    echancrure wrote: »
    So if a race has 10 000 runners one of them is probably infectious. That's at the moment.

    The same calculation can be done if the numbers of cases decrease further, mitigation must also be implemented.


    Or doing the same calculation for a 200 runner race, right now you could reasonably expect to run 50 races before being at a race that even has a single infected person, let alone actually catching anything off them. A risk that comes down each week.



    That's before you consider that at something like a local parkrun, probably half the people are the same people week after week, so you'd be exposed to less individuals (Discourage tourist running for a few months. Open all the parkruns, to avoid travel! Run local!). Or that a significant fraction of those actual active cases are very unlikely to be out running and certainly not racing (old folks home redidents/too sick to consider running/aware of being infected or exposed/otherwise).


    All round, I'm not worried about the virus risk at the moment and just waiting for the general opinion and advice to catch up. (While still avoiding crowds and mass gatherings, unnecessary trips, dripping sweat onto passers by, etc)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,033 ✭✭✭opus


    Friend asked me if entries were still available for Charleville just now & when I checked, this is on the web site.
    Registration
    Due to unforseeable circumstances we are temporarily pausing registration. We will be in touch soon with updates until matters are clarified in relation to our event.

    Hopefully it will go ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Oh ye of little faith.

    AAI fixtures to be announced in the coming days. There will be a track season, albeit with only a limited number of fixtures.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭Down South


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Oh ye of little faith.

    AAI fixtures to be announced in the coming days. There will be a track season, albeit with only a limited number of fixtures.

    Any indication of how they’re going to run events>400m?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Down South wrote: »
    Any indication of how they’re going to run events>400m?

    As normal I assume. Risk is so minimal. Social distancing will prob be more relevant for officials, control of numbers in indoor warm up area, spectator numbers, but I'm just guessing here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 606 ✭✭✭echancrure


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    As normal I assume. Risk is so minimal. Social distancing will prob be more relevant for officials, control of numbers in indoor warm up area, spectator numbers, but I'm just guessing here.

    If it's good enough for schools...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭pc11


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Oh ye of little faith.

    AAI fixtures to be announced in the coming days. There will be a track season, albeit with only a limited number of fixtures.

    Are these going to be open events or AI member events?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    pc11 wrote: »
    Are these going to be open events or AI member events?

    Track meets are always AAI only events generally.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭corcaigh07


    Anyone have an idea of when IMRA events will start running again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,043 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    corcaigh07 wrote: »
    Anyone have an idea of when IMRA events will start running again?

    Committee still trying to work out the social distancing aspect afaik. With social distancing in place, they could restart in phase 3 (July). Orienteering events are starting again in July for example. I can't see Wednesday evening events happening this year though. Just too difficult to manage a start line of 200+ people on routes that are generally full of bottleneck sections and presumably way more walkers than in previous years also. It'll probably be only the open mountain events that typically attract fewer people that will go ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭rovers_runner




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭pc11


    Anybody know what's happening with Charleville?


  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭Oiriallach


    Just saw this from Munster Athetics:

    Following a Munster Council meeting on Monday night, the Munster Council have unanimously taken the decision NOT to hold any Munster T&F Championships this season due to the current situation with Covid-19. At the very core of our decision was the health, safety and welfare of all our athletes, officials, coaches, parents and supporters. There will be a meeting on Friday night (19th) with all County Boards to update them on our decision and answer any questions. Each County can have two representatives at the meeting and notification has gone out to all County Secretaries.

    The Leinster Board are due to meet tonight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭Snodge


    Oiriallach wrote: »
    Just saw this from Munster Athetics:

    Following a Munster Council meeting on Monday night, the Munster Council have unanimously taken the decision NOT to hold any Munster T&F Championships this season due to the current situation with Covid-19. At the very core of our decision was the health, safety and welfare of all our athletes, officials, coaches, parents and supporters. There will be a meeting on Friday night (19th) with all County Boards to update them on our decision and answer any questions. Each County can have two representatives at the meeting and notification has gone out to all County Secretaries.

    The Leinster Board are due to meet tonight.

    A little surprising considering it is still hoped nationals will go ahead in Aug or September. What are others opinions? Will other provenices follow suit I wonder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    They might be thinking they don't want to butcher their xc season for a half assed track season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Oiriallach wrote: »
    Just saw this from Munster Athetics:

    Following a Munster Council meeting on Monday night, the Munster Council have unanimously taken the decision NOT to hold any Munster T&F Championships this season due to the current situation with Covid-19. At the very core of our decision was the health, safety and welfare of all our athletes, officials, coaches, parents and supporters. There will be a meeting on Friday night (19th) with all County Boards to update them on our decision and answer any questions. Each County can have two representatives at the meeting and notification has gone out to all County Secretaries.

    The Leinster Board are due to meet tonight.

    Jaysus, that's fierce cautious. Maybe lack of tracks is the issue. Both tracks in Cork plus UL are closed as they are university tracks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Jaysus, that's fierce cautious. Maybe lack of tracks is the issue. Both tracks in Cork plus UL are closed as they are university tracks.

    There still are the options of Templemore, Waterford RSC and Castleisland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Ceepo wrote: »
    There still are the options of Templemore, Waterford RSC and Castleisland.

    Yep, the more I think about it, it comes across to me that they just aren't arsed reorganising everything. They'll never admit that of course, so impossible for me to be proven right. But how can National competitions be safe, yet Munster events are not safe?!

    I hope this doesn't influence the decision of other bodies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Yep, the more I think about it, it comes across to me that they just aren't arsed reorganising everything. They'll never admit that of course, so impossible for me to be proven right. But how can National competitions be safe, yet Munster events are not safe?!

    I hope this doesn't influence the decision of other bodies.
    I actually had a conversation about this earlier.

    I think they should have waited for AAI to make a public call on whether they will stage nationals or not. Then make a call. They will not look great now if Nationals get the go ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Ceepo wrote: »
    I actually had a conversation about this earlier.

    I think they should have waited for AAI to make a public call on whether they will stage nationals or not. Then make a call. They will not look great now if Nationals get the go ahead.

    National competitions will be happening I hear. Just haven't been announced publicly yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    National competitions will be happening I hear. Just haven't been announced publicly yet.

    I'm pretty sure you have your contacts and if your contacts say they're going ahead, then it makes the munster decision even stranger.

    Surely one would imagine that they would be talking to their NGB and taking lead on an decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Ceepo wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure you have your contacts and if your contacts say they're going ahead, then it makes the munster decision even stranger.

    Surely one would imagine that they would be talking to their NGB and taking lead on an decision.

    Irish athletics is a very fractured sport. The various bodies don't seem to communicate well with each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Irish athletics is a very fractured sport. The various bodies don't seem to communicate well with each other.

    Unfortunately this has always been the case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Wottle wrote: »
    I think that's fierce harsh on a group of volunteers and doubt very much "just aren't arsed" is the reason.

    It might be harsh, but it might well be true. Maybe they see it as more trouble than it is worth.

    How can it be unsafe for Munster to operate but perfectly safe for Leinsters and Nationals to operate?

    Ironically, they'll cause other events to be less safe now as all Munster based athletes flock elsewhere in search of any competition before Nationals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Wottle


    Just removed my comment before your reply as I don't know enough about it to comment. Just took offence to your "not arsed" comment. I've volunteered in athletics for only 10 years and the grief you get. All the volunteers I've come across have had decent and honest intentions and you do them a disservice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Wottle wrote: »
    Just removed my comment before your reply as I don't know enough about it to comment. Just took offence to your "not arsed" comment. I've volunteered in athletics for only 10 years and the grief you get. All the volunteers I've come across have had decent and honest intentions and you do them a disservice.

    Not the best use of words to highlight my point I admit.

    For the record, I'm not having a go at the volunteers. I can understand why they might not be bothered (if that's the case) reorganising everything with half their tracks out of action. But saying its down to public safety is nonsense when there will be meets elsewhere in Ireland and when there is already talk about public events of up to 5000 people in Ireland from September.

    Personally I think its easier for bodies to just scrap events than try find an alternative. Dublin Athletics a prime example. Just cancelling meets and sticking to original schedule rather than trying to redraft the season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Wottle


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Not the best use of words to highlight my point I admit.

    👍

    I wonder could it be the age bracket that perhaps the volunteers and coaches fall into? I'm sure there's a number of other factors at play and hopefully they'll provide more info.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Wottle wrote: »
    ðŸ‘

    I wonder could it be the age bracket that perhaps the volunteers and coaches fall into? I'm sure there's a number of other factors at play and hopefully they'll provide more info.

    It was the case then masters competition would be scrapped which I believe is not happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    How many competitors would be at the nationals per day?
    Add in coaches and staff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Rumours circulating about Leinsters being in Santry 8/9 August for Seniors and Masters. National Seniors 22/23 August.


  • Registered Users Posts: 102 ✭✭Oiriallach


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Rumours circulating about Leinsters being in Santry 8/9 August for Seniors and Masters. National Seniors 22/23 August.


    Did you hear that following last night's Leinster Board meeting? Earlier rumours seemed to suggest that the National Seniors would be on 12/13 September.


    I wish they'd just decide on a plan and then announce it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Oiriallach wrote: »
    Did you hear that following last night's Leinster Board meeting? Earlier rumours seemed to suggest that the National Seniors would be on 12/13 September.


    I wish they'd just decide on a plan and then announce it!

    I think 12/13 September was based on old government road map. Everything brought forward now. Heard re Nationals last week. Heard re Leinsters this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Oiriallach wrote: »
    Did you hear that following last night's Leinster Board meeting? Earlier rumours seemed to suggest that the National Seniors would be on 12/13 September.


    I wish they'd just decide on a plan and then announce it!




    Sept makes sense with the 5000 limit on get togethers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ceepo


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Rumours circulating about Leinsters being in Santry 8/9 August for Seniors and Masters. National Seniors 22/23 August.

    Makes the munster decision look ridiculous now especially when you consider the meeting we're only days apart.

    Any word on masters track dates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Sept makes sense with the 5000 limit on get togethers.

    Nationals doesn't get big spectator numbers. Maybe 1000 on the Sunday, and some of them are athletes and coaches.

    No need to be waiting til September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Every sport is struggling to restart at grassroot level. Even GAA which has an embarressment of voulenteer riches is having a hard time putting workable procedures in place. For minority sports its tougher again. More officals are needed now than before and I cant say I blame Munster or any other body for throwing their hat at it. Youd really need to be very invested in someone elses hobby to jump through the hoops required to get competitions going. An already thankless task has now become a hazzardous one and with it will come increased scrutiny and criticism, not less as should be the case. We really do take things for granted and one of the major things we take for granted is the people who give up their time to keep sport and social events ticking along. The thing is when we think of the organising behind events we think of large numbers bu in reality there are a small hadfull of people involved in all events whom all the work and responsibility falls back on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    ultrapercy wrote: »
    Every sport is struggling to restart at grassroot level. Even GAA which has an embarressment of voulenteer riches is having a hard time putting workable procedures in place. For minority sports its tougher again. More officals are needed now than before and I cant say I blame Munster or any other body for throwing their hat at it. Youd really need to be very invested in someone elses hobby to jump through the hoops required to get competitions going. An already thankless task has now become a hazzardous one and with it will come increased scrutiny and criticism, not less as should be the case. We really do take things for granted and one of the major things we take for granted is the people who give up their time to keep sport and social events ticking along. The thing is when we think of the organising behind events we think of large numbers bu in reality there are a small hadfull of people involved in all events whom all the work and responsibility falls back on.

    Cul camps are going ahead this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Cul camps are going ahead this year

    So I believe. Thats great news for children and parents but how is it relevant here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,861 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    ultrapercy wrote: »
    So I believe. Thats great news for children and parents but how is it relevant here?


    Because some one said GAA was struggling to restart at grassroot levels, while its actually making progress right now. Training for kids looks like returning in July also.


    Senior Club championship is starting early August also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    I think someone also contrasted the volunteer rich GAA against minority sports. While the GAA are hoping to restart its far from certain with most clubs struggling with the processes involved re contact tracing. Indeed a lot of businness is struggling to come to terms with restrictions never mind volunteer bases amature sports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Leinsters are confirmed. It's up on their website. What a contrast to Munster.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Hager


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Leinsters are confirmed. It's up on their website. What a contrast to Munster.

    Not much there for the juveniles though. Any idea what the open competition will cover?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Hager wrote: »
    Not much there for the juveniles though. Any idea what the open competition will cover?

    I've no idea to be honest. I think a lot of their meets have been cancelled. Only some are rescheduled. You'll see it on the website. Scroll down a bit.

    EDIT: That old post is gone now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Leinsters are confirmed. It's up on their website. What a contrast to Munster.

    Also a big contrast in club numbers, club membership and infrastructure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    ultrapercy wrote: »
    Also a big contrast in club numbers, club membership and infrastructure.

    Surely having more competitors is more difficult to manage during these times than having less competitors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    Just a note about Cul Camps. Gas have said they can go ahead, however, most clubs I have looked at are not doing them due to the logistics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭ultrapercy


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Surely having more competitors is more difficult to manage during these times than having less competitors.

    A biggee pool of helpers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Just a note about Cul Camps. Gas have said they can go ahead, however, most clubs I have looked at are not doing them due to the logistics.

    Exactly. Our club are meeting this weekend to discuss the feasibility. Cul Camp aren't sending coaches like they usually do so clubs will need to find people locally who are available, willing, have the level of coaching certification required and are Garda vetted. Then there is additional procedures required that are specific to the Covid situation. It's a big ask on clubs and in all likelihood many won't go ahead i imagine.


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