Corona Virus and events

MY BAD

I agree. The nationals should be spread around the country where possible

Wubble Wubble

Connemarathon 2020 (currently April 18 2021) entrants received emails this week offering free deferrals to 2022 if they wish. This applies even if you've already deferred your entry - normally it would be a case of use it or lose it, but with ongoing uncertainty regarding restrictions and so forth (Conn would have a fair few overseas entrants), the organisers have decided to relax that rule.

tea and coffee

Sunny Dayz wrote: »

It was my first half a few years ago. Enjoyed some parts of the route - running along the south quay and in the Phoenix Park. But "Rock n Roll" - not for me, there's more music along the women's mini marathon route!

Mine too. I suppose I am one of those bucket listers referred to above. It was grand for me. Fair enough if it maybe shouldn't have been an AI race but hey if it maybe kept the likes of me away from the serious runners then maybe it is a shame it's canned

Murph_D

tea and coffee wrote: »

Mine too. I suppose I am one of those bucket listers referred to above. It was grand for me. Fair enough if it maybe shouldn't have been an AI race but hey if it maybe kept the likes of me away from the serious runners then maybe it is a shame it's canned

No loss really - there are plenty of other HMs, and all standards of runners are welcome at any race I've ever been part of.

average_runner

Murph_D wrote: »

No loss really - there are plenty of other HMs, and all standards of runners are welcome at any race I've ever been part of.

In a way I think a national half in different locations might motivate people even more. Something good to target.

Casey78

Liked the Rock N Roll, that's a pity its finished was always a good route and a good atmosphere. Will be a loss to many.

tea and coffee

Murph_D wrote: »

No loss really - there are plenty of other HMs, and all standards of runners are welcome at any race I've ever been part of.

You haven't seen me so :-D

daydorunrun

I wonder when we are looking at the first races reappearing in 2021? I’m thinking April or so maybe for smaller ones based on nothing but a hunch.

Cartman78

Mallow AC have announced plans to go ahead with the 10 Mile Race on July 4th.

6run28

With the vaccine set to roll out in early January, it seems reasonable to plan for races from April onwards. Once the elderly and vulnerable people are protected, I presume the need for the restrictions is over (but maybe I'm wrong there).

Annie get your Run

Cartman78 wrote: »

Mallow AC have announced plans to go ahead with the 10 Mile Race on July 4th.

Saw that yesterday, can't wait! Plenty of time to train too.

Supercell

Anyone know if St Coca's are planning to run their Kilcock 10 from 10 race this year?, it's my favourite race of that distance and would love another go.
They had early bird offers up by now previously so maybe I've answered my own question there, hope not!

Slow_Runner

Supercell wrote: »

Anyone know if St Coca's are planning to run their Kilcock 10 from 10 race this year?, it's my favourite race of that distance and would love another go.
They had early bird offers up by now previously so maybe I've answered my own question there, hope not!

We haven't even thought that far ahead tbh, all going to plan the 5k and 10 mile will be going ahead on their usual dates (5k on last Fri in June, 10 mile 10 weeks out from Dublin), I think most clubs are holding off on making race plans until they know more (plus can't even meet up to discuss plans). I'm no longer fully involved but I'll suggest keeping the early bird option for when entries open.

MY BAD

Achill half announced for July 3rd '21...

average_runner

6run28 wrote: »

With the vaccine set to roll out in early January, it seems reasonable to plan for races from April onwards. Once the elderly and vulnerable people are protected, I presume the need for the restrictions is over (but maybe I'm wrong there).

Leo said mass events will take place around Sept.


Its not just the vulnerable that needs protection, its the health system, so the country doesn't want the virus running rampant say under 50's group and people to be in hospital taking up resources.

ligerdub

average_runner wrote: »

Leo said mass events will take place around Sept.


Its not just the vulnerable that needs protection, its the health system, so the country doesn't want the virus running rampant say under 50's group and people to be in hospital taking up resources.

Come on man.......this narrative is surely finished.

Supercell

Slow_Runner wrote: »

We haven't even thought that far ahead tbh, all going to plan the 5k and 10 mile will be going ahead on their usual dates (5k on last Fri in June, 10 mile 10 weeks out from Dublin), I think most clubs are holding off on making race plans until they know more (plus can't even meet up to discuss plans). I'm no longer fully involved but I'll suggest keeping the early bird option for when entries open.

Thanks Slow_Runner, hope springs eternal, hopefully by the end of the summer we'll all be setting PB's around Kilcock again

average_runner

ligerdub wrote: »

Come on man.......this narrative is surely finished.

I really hope so but I am not so sure.

IvoryTower

Well, nothing has really changed since the start other than we're used to it and there's a vaccine the horizon. Be interesting to see if enough people take it

rovers_runner

IvoryTower wrote: »

Well, nothing has really changed since the start other than we're used to it and there's a vaccine the horizon. Be interesting to see if enough people take it

Who decide if the take up is enough?
Should nphet still have that much power once there is vaccine?
What is the breaking point for the Govt finances? Have we already passed it...

Sacksian

Athletics Ireland announce details of the cross-country season....looks like qualification is necessary for senior xc:

https://www.athleticsireland.ie/news/cross-country-championship-announcement

National Senior Cross-Country Championships:

Qualifications: First 3 Clubs from Regional Championships (Leinster (rest of Leinster clubs), Dublin (Dublin clubs), Connacht, Munster, Ulster/ANI (6 athletes per team, 4 to score)

Plus First 6 individuals from Regional Championships (excluding those already qualified on club teams)
Plus 2019 club and individual winners
Plus up to 23 places available to elite/HP/U23 athletes based on European Cross Championship participation over the last 3 years
If there are remaining places available, they will be allocated on the discretion of the National Endurance Coordinator.

average_runner

rovers_runner wrote: »

Who decide if the take up is enough?
Should nphet still have that much power once there is vaccine?
What is the breaking point for the Govt finances? Have we already passed it...

Rates on bonds are so low we can keep borrowing.
The sad part of this is, if covid hadn't arrived, the government wouldn't of borrowed so much to fix the country, could of implemented an excellent infrastructure plan for all etc

Oiriallach

I wonder how the National Senior Indoor Championships will work if they are allowed to go ahead (assuming that only 50 people will be allowed to be present at any one time).

OOnegative

CPC Loop Den Haag deferred to September 2021.

Wottle

OOnegative wrote: »

CPC Loop Den Haag deferred to September 2021.

Berlin half moved from April to August.

event

Bohermeen Half gone virtual, 10k & 5k added

Wottle

Wottle wrote: »

Berlin half moved from April to August.

Hamburg Marathon at the end of April gone, always knew it would be a long shot.

rovers_runner

Things for early summer touch and go now...
Expect any large events such as marathons with over 1000 entrants to bite the bullet by the end of Jan, or else a postponement to late August /early September.


I'd say looking at the traditional calendar based on events I'm familiar with

- Connemarathon ??, no deferral seems to be in the works, would be a great event mid summer though
- Cork to be postponed to first weekend in Sept (mirroring 2020 plans)
- Limerick to be postponed to first weekend in Oct (mirroring 2020 plans)
- Dublin - will have to decide early summer as we look to leave restrictions, should be ok
- Belfast - 19th Sept 2021

- Raheny - virtual
- Bohermeen - virtual
- Cara Bundoran series - March - unlikely to go ahead on that date
- Royal Canal run Longford - April 18th - unlikely to go ahead on that date
- Great Ireland Run - nothing yet, April 2021 not likely to happen
- Athletics Ireland race series - due to start May - likely deferred to June
- Dublin Marathon race series - due to start late May - likely deferred to June

- IMRA events - no calendar finalized yet, pending new year restrictions confirmation


So looks like by early Feb we will have a raft of postponements until July earliest, means a very busy late summer and autumn but little or nothing before June.

Ceepo

Oiriallach wrote: »

I wonder how the National Senior Indoor Championships will work if they are allowed to go ahead (assuming that only 50 people will be allowed to be present at any one time).

It shouldn't be much of a problem really, as there won't be to many running in each event. It will be just a matter of adjusting the start times to ensure they comply with restrictions.

Tigerandahalf

I am not sure if we will have any major races this year. A lot of younger people won't be vaccinated until the fall of the year or later.

Having thousands of people gathered together at a start line is unlikely. We still don't how long a vaccine will protect for.

I see a couple of young fit soccer players at Newcastle have suffered very badly with the virus as well. According to the manager Steve Bruce they can barely walk for 30 mins and are having to go back to bed because of fatigue.

Who knows though, maybe once the health service is happy it won't be inundated with sick older people things will be allowed to open up and you take your chances. I'd imagine numbers for big marathons will be well down initially at least. It might make it easier to get into the big ones.

Oiriallach

Ceepo wrote: »

It shouldn't be much of a problem really, as there won't be to many running in each event. It will be just a matter of adjusting the start times to ensure they comply with restrictions.

Well, 43 ran in the heats of the men's 60m in the 2020 championships. I would expect entries to be higher if the 2021 championships go ahead (due to the scarcity of other indoor competitions). So there could easily be more than 50 athletes in that single event.

Chivito550

Oiriallach wrote: »

Well, 43 ran in the heats of the men's 60m in the 2020 championships. I would expect entries to be higher if the 2021 championships go ahead (due to the scarcity of other indoor competitions). So there could easily be more than 50 athletes in that single event.

I reckon no chance it goes ahead. The dates were conveniently announced a day or two after Feidhlim's excellent podcast slating AAI for their lack of communication and planning.

rovers_runner

The language of officialdom is shifting a lot now in the last week.
Concerts, sporting audiences and mass participation look to be in the far distant future once again, no great urgency in the eyes of health officials who dictate policy at this stage.
Going to be a long 6 months to summer...

Ceepo

Chivito550 wrote: »

I reckon no chance it goes ahead. The dates were conveniently announced a day or two after Feidhlim's excellent podcast slating AAI for their lack of communication and planning.

100% agree with you on the timing of the announcement, and I also don't see it going ahead.
The only thing is the Euro indoor champs are still due to go ahead in March, it would be a shame if Ireland had no entries due to not holding a championship.

Chivito550

Ceepo wrote: »

100% agree with you on the timing of the announcement, and I also don't see it going ahead.
The only thing is the Euro indoor champs are still due to go ahead in March, it would be a shame if Ireland had no entries due to not holding a championship.

Carded Irish athletics have been warned not to travel abroad to race by Sport Ireland, or face punishment. Yet there's no races at home. How can one prepare for a championships under such restrictions.

Ceepo

Chivito550 wrote: »

Carded Irish athletics have been warned not to travel abroad to race by Sport Ireland, or face punishment. Yet there's no races at home. How can one prepare for a championships under such restrictions.

You're around top elite athletes long enough to know how the system actually works, and not how it should work.
Athletics Ireland is a joke and lack leadership for decades.

Fair play to Feidhlim and the DTC crew, at least they are showing some initiative.
Great performance from them at the weekend, with Sean Tobin running 28.30 and a host by others running pb's. Just a shame they had to travel to Belfast to race.
I know that Moyne AC looked for a permit to hold something similar over the Christmas period and were refused a permit.

I've finished up work a bit early this christmas and enjoying the vast amount of sport on TV, Cycling indoors and cross, Darts, Skiing, Golf, Horse racing, Moto cross, Gaa and dare I say Football. ALL these sports are able to to plans in place to hold events for the athletes.
Shame our athletes are missing out :mad:

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

Carded Irish athletics have been warned not to travel abroad to race by Sport Ireland, or face punishment. Yet there's no races at home. How can one prepare for a championships under such restrictions.

When you say carded, what exactly does that mean? Silly question i bet, but silly season

Ceepo

average_runner wrote: »

When you say carded, what exactly does that mean? Silly question i bet, but silly season

Carded athletes receive a performance based grant and are funded by the Irish sports Council.

ThebitterLemon

Ceepo wrote: »

Carded athletes receive a performance based grant and are funded by the Irish sports Council.

ie. they’re not average runners average runner

TbL

average_runner

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

ie. they’re not average runners average runner

TbL

Better keep my day job so

bucketybuck

Any opinions on whether Connemarathon will go ahead in April? I was considering the Ultra and have been training with that in mind, but I'm unsure if I want to do this volume of training for a race that might not happen. Now with the country going back into full lockdowns is an April race feasible, even with the vaccine now being distributed?

ThebitterLemon

bucketybuck wrote: »

Any opinions on whether Connemarathon will go ahead in April? I was considering the Ultra and have been training with that in mind, but I'm unsure if I want to do this volume of training for a race that might not happen. Now with the country going back into full lockdowns is an April race feasible, even with the vaccine now being distributed?

No chance I’d have thought, don’t they bus people to the start?

Can’t see any marathon (of size) happening till at least the back end of the summer

TbL

ger664

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

No chance I’d have thought, don’t they bus people to the start?

Can’t see any marathon (of size) happening till at least the back end of the summer

TbL

If we get out of Inter County Restrictions there will be some small ones.

There was 3in3 organized for 28th.29th and 30th but that got scuppered by the reintroduction of whatever the government deemed to be Level 5 this time

ThebitterLemon

ger664 wrote: »

If we get out of Inter County Restrictions there will be some small ones.

There was 3in3 organized for 28th.29th and 30th but that got scuppered by the reintroduction of whatever the government deemed to be Level 5 this time

How are things Ger

Happy New Year

TbL

ger664

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

How are things Ger

Happy New Year

TbL

Ok C

Got a + Covid test on Christmas EVE thankfully no one else in the family circle picked it up from me. Symptoms where mild but It has left some nasty side effects. Blood Pressure was extremely high seems to have stabilized now but I still have shortness of breath, loss of taste, and and I get bouts of coughing where nothing comes up.

Still vertical so that's always a good starting point for us auld lads.

average_runner

ger664 wrote: »

Ok C

Got a + Covid test on Christmas EVE thankfully no one else in the family circle picked it up from me. Symptoms where mild but It has left some nasty side effects. Blood Pressure was extremely high seems to have stabilized now but I still have shortness of breath, loss of taste, and and I get bouts of coughing where nothing comes up.

Still vertical so that's always a good starting point for us auld lads.

Sounds rough enough. Any idea how u got it?
Dont have to answer that question.

Hope u recover fully soon

TFBubendorfer

ger664 wrote: »

Ok C

Got a + Covid test on Christmas EVE thankfully no one else in the family circle picked it up from me. Symptoms where mild but It has left some nasty side effects. Blood Pressure was extremely high seems to have stabilized now but I still have shortness of breath, loss of taste, and and I get bouts of coughing where nothing comes up.

Still vertical so that's always a good starting point for us auld lads.

Ah f*ck, that's some Christmas present. Hope you're over the worst now. Get better soon!

ThebitterLemon

ger664 wrote: »

Ok C

Got a + Covid test on Christmas EVE thankfully no one else in the family circle picked it up from me. Symptoms where mild but It has left some nasty side effects. Blood Pressure was extremely high seems to have stabilized now but I still have shortness of breath, loss of taste, and and I get bouts of coughing where nothing comes up.

Still vertical so that's always a good starting point for us auld lads.

Jesus! All the best for a speedy recovery.

I’m sure you’ll be fine I’ve seen you at many a finish line with shortness of breath, coughing and gagging and you recovered quick enough

TbL

ger664

average_runner wrote: »

Sounds rough enough. Any idea how u got it?
Dont have to answer that question.

Hope u recover fully soon

Cheers

From the one area the government allow. I work in IT and have contract work with a lot of GP's so I have been extremely busy all year.

Surface contact (keyboard mouse) from a Desktop I was configuring for a temp nurse in a surgery. She showed symptoms a couple of days later. I was only tested as a precaution.

rovers_runner

Can't see how something that would depend on shuttle buses will go ahead.
Don't see Connemarathon in 2021 at all unfortunately given how much sh1te the HSE find themselves in now.
Vaccination schedule seems to be screwed based on lack of people to administer it due to lack of hiring and illness. Also given the IT systems aren't in place to keep any track of daily cases over 2000, how are they going to manage 4 million plus vaccinations...