Corona Virus and events

Burkie1203

average_runner wrote: »

Not allowing kids do out door sport is pretty shocking in fairness. They managed it up till dec and should be back now as cases nearly under a thousand.

No cases where reported at kids sports

Dungarvan and Glen Rovers (?) Two examples of why though. When the adults cannot behave like adults something has to give

GAA said they had no control over it but the celebrations were social media driven and they were prime examples which went unpunished. They could have stripped the clubs of titles or excluded them from the national club championship etc. Set an example.

Also GAA players involved in this stuff are going to workplaces days later.

Where I live there is a local residents association which runs an exercise club 3 times a week. All front garden based (common area for those in apartments) and a run/walk around the block.

Run on one path, walk on the other and you start in a sequence and stay in your slot. Bit of imagination and the kids love it. Proper sense of community. Sundays are then in the local park too for something different

A few elderly folk live alone do some of it and there is a shopping requirements whatsapp too.

Itziger

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Dungarvan and Glen Rovers (?) Two examples of why though. When the adults cannot behave like adults something has to give

GAA said they had no control over it but the celebrations were social media driven and they were prime examples which went unpunished. They could have stripped the clubs of titles or excluded them from the national club championship etc. Set an example.

Also GAA players involved in this stuff are going to workplaces days later.

Where I live there is a local residents association which runs an exercise club 3 times a week. All front garden based (common area for those in apartments) and a run/walk around the block.

Run on one path, walk on the other and you start in a sequence and stay in your slot. Bit of imagination and the kids love it. Proper sense of community. Sundays are then in the local park too for something different

A few elderly folk live alone do some of it and there is a shopping requirements whatsapp too.

You were right to put the question mark. That was Blackrock I think you mean. They beat The Glen in the County Final (I'm a Glen man.)

average_runner

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Dungarvan and Glen Rovers (?) Two examples of why though. When the adults cannot behave like adults something has to give

GAA said they had no control over it but the celebrations were social media driven and they were prime examples which went unpunished. They could have stripped the clubs of titles or excluded them from the national club championship etc. Set an example.

Also GAA players involved in this stuff are going to workplaces days later.

Where I live there is a local residents association which runs an exercise club 3 times a week. All front garden based (common area for those in apartments) and a run/walk around the block.

Run on one path, walk on the other and you start in a sequence and stay in your slot. Bit of imagination and the kids love it. Proper sense of community. Sundays are then in the local park too for something different

A few elderly folk live alone do some of it and there is a shopping requirements whatsapp too.

Think you missed the point, I said kids training sessions, not adults training sessions.

Dagon

Cartman78 wrote: »

Yep....fully agree unfortunately.

Following the announcements of the vaccines etc. late last year I had been hopeful of maybe a few smaller events going ahead in late summer or autumn but those hopes are fading fast.

I'm actually in the best shape I've been in years fitness wise and won't be far off a 5K PB in the coming weeks. Very frustrating that there's unlikely to be any races this year but a first world problem in these extraordinarily sh1tty times we're living in.

For mega events such as Streets of Galway or the Dublin Marathon, I agree that there isn't a big chance for them.

However, for smaller events with limited numbers I would be quite hopeful. I'm talking about Portumna Forest marathon, Kerry Way ultra / ultra lite, Connemara 100, some of the Gaelforce runs, etc.

I would also think that our local clubs will be getting back into doing training runs and group time trials in April / May. Covid numbers are well down, and once the vulnerable in society have mostly been vaccinated then events that allow staggered start times of <=15 athletes will be good to go.

Granted - these are very small events in the scheme of things but I reckon they will go ahead. If the Connemara 100 and Kerry Way Ultra managed last year, there is absolutely no reason why they won't happen again (and now we have the vaccines).

On the super-optimistic side, if the vaccinations get done ahead of schedule and most of us are done by July / August, and cases drop to unexpected low levels with very little community infection (and potentially little or no international travel and imported cases due to strict quarantine measures), I could see some of the mega-races happen in Sept / Oct, e.g. Run Galway Bay or even a pushed out Dublin marathon.

My 2 cents...

P.S. If the government were to adopt zero covid strategy from today, we'd probably have all of the big events happening by aug / sept... but don't get me started on that.

daydorunrun

I'm thinking events will be back up North first given they have one if four adult vaccinated already- might have to take a spin up. I wonder will I have to be escorted to a quarantine hotel for 2 weeks after the race?

average_runner

daydorunrun wrote: »

I'm thinking events will be back up North first given they have one if four adult vaccinated already- might have to take a spin up. I wonder will I have to be escorted to a quarantine hotel for 2 weeks after the race?

And hence this is why we be in lockdown till 2024

daydorunrun

average_runner wrote: »

And hence this is why we be in lockdown till 2024

Yes we will be in lockdown till 2024 because of the slim possibility of healthy, not at risk people being able to run in a race out in the fresh air later this year:pac:
New level of covid finger wagging there, well done you.

Chivito550

daydorunrun wrote: »

Yes we will be in lockdown till 2024 because of the slim possibility of healthy, not at risk people being able to run in a race out in the fresh air later this year:pac:
New level of covid finger wagging there, well done you.

Yep, this is why I'm considering blocking boards on my phone and laptop. Scaremongering predictions from people who haven't got any clue how things will pan out. The Covid forum here is worse than Twitter and Facebook for the mental health, and that's saying something.

Stark

From what I've seen with adjusted EU delivery schedules, our schedules and the UK's will probably end up converging as we approach the summer and we'll probably come out of lockdown on roughly the same timeframes (May/June). For a while there I was seriously considering getting a short term let in Belfast for 6 months such was the glacial pace the EU was moving at. (Still keeping it as an option in mind if the EU lets itself get shafted again with deliveries, or if our overlords decided to be really anal about it and insist that low-risk people need their second shot before re-opening).

average_runner

daydorunrun wrote: »

Yes we will be in lockdown till 2024 because of the slim possibility of healthy, not at risk people being able to run in a race out in the fresh air later this year:pac:
New level of covid finger wagging there, well done you.

Actually it was more the point we need to shut our borders

Ceepo

Taoiseach Micheál Martin has said “severe” lockdown restrictions will remain in place for at least another nine weeks - until the end of April.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/covid-lockdown-restrictions-ireland-michealmartin-19869966

It will be a while before we see some races on

Stark

Things could change very quickly once all over 70s are fully vaccinated though (mid-May). By that stage as well, supply will have ramped up to a huge degree in April and May so a huge chunk of the under-70s will have had their first dose. There should be a lot of scope for relaxing things in late May/June imo. Big game changer will be if J&J gets approved (looks very likely) and the 1.1 million doses promised in April/May/June arrive as scheduled. We also have 800,000 additional doses of Pfizer (recent deal on top of what was already ordered) promised to us in April/May/June and it sounds like they've worked out the kinks at the AZ factory in Europe so that should add a lot to Q2 supply as well (I'm not sure by how much).

https://twitter.com/jfkirkegaard/status/1361990549922848769

This is Denmark's revised program

https://www.thelocal.dk/20210215/denmark-adjusts-expected-date-for-completion-of-covid-19-vaccination-programme

https://www.sst.dk/-/media/Udgivelser/2021/Corona/Vaccination/Kalender/Vaccinationskalender-A4-webtilgaengelig.ashx?la=da&hash=5234BB82243B24FD492FDDAC1388CA9A22BC83D6



Note that they're assuming reduced Astrazenaca supply in their timeline but it sounds like issues there have been resolved since so more cause for optimism there: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-idUSKBN2AH1MY

Chivito550

Stark wrote: »

Things could change very quickly once all over 70s are fully vaccinated though (mid-May). By that stage as well, supply will have ramped up to a huge degree in April and May so a huge chunk of the under-70s will have had their first dose. There should be a lot of scope for relaxing things in late May/June imo. Big game changer will be if J&J gets approved (looks very likely) and the 1.1 million doses promised in April/May/June arrive as scheduled. We also have 800,000 additional doses of Pfizer (recent deal on top of what was already ordered) promised to us in April/May/June and it sounds like they've worked out the kinks at the AZ factory in Europe so that should add a lot to Q2 supply as well (I'm not sure by how much).

https://twitter.com/jfkirkegaard/status/1361990549922848769

This is Denmark's revised program

https://www.thelocal.dk/20210215/denmark-adjusts-expected-date-for-completion-of-covid-19-vaccination-programme

https://www.sst.dk/-/media/Udgivelser/2021/Corona/Vaccination/Kalender/Vaccinationskalender-A4-webtilgaengelig.ashx?la=da&hash=5234BB82243B24FD492FDDAC1388CA9A22BC83D6



Note that they're assuming reduced Astrazenaca supply in their timeline but it sounds like issues there have been resolved since so more cause for optimism there: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-idUSKBN2AH1MY

We were told (lies I guess) back in March 2020 that the reason for lockdown was to "flatten the curve" and prevent our shambolic health service from becoming overwhelmed. When the vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospital numbers plummet to a tiny fraction of what they are at now, there should be no need for any of these restrictions.

Of course, the goalposts are continuing to be moved. I think we have lost sight of the original reason for lockdowns.

average_runner

Stark wrote: »

Things could change very quickly once all over 70s are fully vaccinated though (mid-May). By that stage as well, supply will have ramped up to a huge degree in April and May so a huge chunk of the under-70s will have had their first dose. There should be a lot of scope for relaxing things in late May/June imo. Big game changer will be if J&J gets approved (looks very likely) and the 1.1 million doses promised in April/May/June arrive as scheduled. We also have 800,000 additional doses of Pfizer (recent deal on top of what was already ordered) promised to us in April/May/June and it sounds like they've worked out the kinks at the AZ factory in Europe so that should add a lot to Q2 supply as well (I'm not sure by how much).

https://twitter.com/jfkirkegaard/status/1361990549922848769

This is Denmark's revised program

https://www.thelocal.dk/20210215/denmark-adjusts-expected-date-for-completion-of-covid-19-vaccination-programme

https://www.sst.dk/-/media/Udgivelser/2021/Corona/Vaccination/Kalender/Vaccinationskalender-A4-webtilgaengelig.ashx?la=da&hash=5234BB82243B24FD492FDDAC1388CA9A22BC83D6



Note that they're assuming reduced Astrazenaca supply in their timeline but it sounds like issues there have been resolved since so more cause for optimism there: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-astrazeneca-idUSKBN2AH1MY

Why isn't things changing quickly in the Uk?

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

We were told (lies I guess) back in March 2020 that the reason for lockdown was to "flatten the curve" and prevent our shambolic health service from becoming overwhelmed. When the vulnerable are vaccinated and the hospital numbers plummet to a tiny fraction of what they are at now, there should be no need for any of these restrictions.

Of course, the goalposts are continuing to be moved. I think we have lost sight of the original reason for lockdowns.

Sadly yes, the new variants are having an impact on the vaccines. If we put controls on the entrance in to the country we would have every thing open by now.


The fact that every minister is saying something different to the media, doesn't help also

Chivito550

average_runner wrote: »

Sadly yes, the new variants are having an impact on the vaccines. If we put controls on the entrance in to the country we would have every thing open by now.


The fact that every minister is saying something different to the media, doesn't help also

Let me get this right. You are saying that our policy around opening up should be based on something that COULD happen? Not something that WILL happen?

Sure there COULD be a brand new virus next year, or a brand new killer bacteria. Let's just stay closed forever just in case.

Pure b0ll0cks!

Vaccines can be tweaked very easily to take account of new strains. They've been doing this for influenza for years, a virus type that mutates much quicker than coronaviruses do.

People are losing their minds.

The Davestator

Judging by the vast majority of reaction I have seen today, this late night leak to a tabloid is the straw which broke the camles back for a lot of people. I've never seen as much 'I'm done now' comments.

The visceral reaction might actually force the gov into throwing some kind of bone such as golf or the 5 k becoming 10k for example.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

Let me get this right. You are saying that our policy around opening up should be based on something that COULD happen? Not something that WILL happen?

Sure there could be a brand new virus next year, or a brand new killer bacteria. Let's just stay closed forever just in case.

Pure b0ll0cks!

My policy is that we should of had strict entrance policy into the country last May. Then we be fully open now for inside the country.


I think the actions by a minority group over xmas showed us what would happen. The amount of deaths is a disgrace.


The science behind the new variants out there has proven to cause issues, so much so that all the vaccine producers are back in getting boosters ready for it so we can open up again.

PS I never said could, the new variants are already here

average_runner

The Davestator wrote: »

Judging by the vast majority of reaction I have seen today, this late night leak to a tabloid is the straw which broke the camles back for a lot of people. I've never seen as much 'I'm done now' comments.

The visceral reaction might actually force the gov into throwing some kind of bone such as golf or the 5 k becoming 10k for example.

Well it was disrespectful to the people of Ireland. That should of been said in a national address to the nation.


FF has no respect for the people of Ireland, never had.

Chivito550

I also love the way our leaders are talking about staying closed until the entire world is vaccinated. It's quite funny that we care so much about vaccinating a demographic that barely exists in third world countries, yet children and infants are dying in their droves every day of starvation, malnutrition, diarrhoea and malaria in these same countries. We couldn't give a toss though about this. As long as the first world issue of Covid is sorted out in these places!

We are hypocrites, every last one of us, in some form or another.

Then you've got nonsense like the lad on Operation Transformation who had to restrict his movements the other day because he was a "casual contact of a confirmed..... close contact".

Pure trash. It will take ages for us to recover psychologically from this when you see this sort of rubbish dished out by RTE.

average_runner

The Davestator wrote: »

Judging by the vast majority of reaction I have seen today, this late night leak to a tabloid is the straw which broke the camles back for a lot of people. I've never seen as much 'I'm done now' comments.

The visceral reaction might actually force the gov into throwing some kind of bone such as golf or the 5 k becoming 10k for example.

People won't accept that as long as people as are allowed to enter the country, do what they want and the rest of us cant!!

That's the part that is now hitting home alot. FF are more worried about what people coming into Ireland thinks than their own people.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

I also love the way our leaders are talking about staying closed until the entire world is vaccinated. It's quite funny that we care so much about vaccinating a demographic that barely exists in third world countries, yet children and infants are dying in their droves every day of starvation, malnutrition, diarrhoea and malaria in these same countries. We couldn't give a toss though about this. As long as the first world issue of Covid is sorted out in these places!

We are hypocrites, every last one of us, in some form or another.

Then you've got nonsense like the lad on Operation Transformation who had to restrict his movements the other day because he was a "casual contact of a confirmed..... close contact".

Pure trash. It will take ages for us to recover psychologically from this when you see this sort of rubbish dished out by RTE.

This might be harsh, but F*ck the rest of the world and look after our own

Stark

average_runner wrote: »

People won't accept that as long as people as are allowed to enter the country, do what they want and the rest of us cant!!

That's the part that is now hitting home alot. FF are more worried about what people coming into Ireland thinks than their own people.

Political smoke-screening. Have to be seen to be doing something to keep the people stuck in their homes happy. They can't know that Johnno had a great time in Ibiza. The new found focus on borders might have made sense when we are at single digit case numbers but will make **** all difference when domestic transmission is so high.

The Davestator wrote:

Judging by the vast majority of reaction I have seen today, this late night leak to a tabloid is the straw which broke the camles back for a lot of people. I've never seen as much 'I'm done now' comments.

The visceral reaction might actually force the gov into throwing some kind of bone such as golf or the 5 k becoming 10k for example.

They really need to focus on the mental health of the nation if we're to get through the next 3 months. And I don't mean selfish "open the pubs for my mental health" nonsense, I mean letting people engage in low risk recreational activity so they're in a better place to focus on the important things like avoiding indoor socialising.

Don't see for example why my parents who enjoy playing golf can't do that as a couple. Or why someone can't go on a long bike ride or a hike somewhere. Seems to be part of our Irish psyche that our goals can only be achieved through penance and misery.

average_runner

Stark wrote: »

Political smoke-screening. Have to be seen to be doing something to keep the people stuck in their homes happy. They can't know that Johnno had a great time in Ibiza. The new found focus on borders might have made sense when we are at single digit case numbers but will make **** all difference when domestic transmission is so high.



They really need to focus on the mental health of the nation if we're to get through the next 3 months. And I don't mean selfish "open the pubs for my mental health" nonsense, I mean letting people engage in low risk recreational activity so they're in a better place to focus on the important things like avoiding indoor socialising.

Don't see for example why my parents who enjoy playing golf can't do that as a couple. Or why someone can't go on a long bike ride or a hike somewhere. Seems to be part of our Irish psyche that our goals can only be achieved through penance and misery.

Totally agree on the outdoor stuff. We were outside doing sport last Nov and cases were similar.


Some good news:
Positive test rate under 5% for the first time in a long time
13,123 got the vaccine last Tues, starting to increase.


Don't look at news tonight, NPHET will put you in a dark place.

Ceepo

Chivito550 wrote: »

I also love the way our leaders are talking about staying closed until the entire world is vaccinated. It's quite funny that we care so much about vaccinating a demographic that barely exists in third world countries, yet children and infants are dying in their droves every day of starvation, malnutrition, diarrhoea and malaria in these same countries. We couldn't give a toss though about this. As long as the first world issue of Covid is sorted out in these places!.

This is evident when you have a situation where the price of the vaccine is 2/3 times higher in the poor countrys.
EU paying just approx €3, South Africa €5, and reports that Uganda its €7.
(according to Matt Cooper show last night)

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n281

robinph

Ceepo wrote: »

This is evident when you have a situation where the price of the vaccine is 2/3 times higher in the poor countrys.
EU paying just approx €3, South Africa €5, and reports that Uganda its €7.
(according to Matt Cooper show last night)

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n281

Is that variation not going to be down to needing to setup more local production than has been available previously? Very easy to manufacture and distribute and refrigerate within Europe, bit trickier across Africa.

They should be subsidising those costs somehow by overcharging the wealthiest countries.

daydorunrun

average_runner wrote: »

My policy is that we should of had strict entrance policy into the country last May. Then we be fully open now for inside the country.

No offence AR but that isn’t policy, that’s hindsight.

Ceepo

robinph wrote: »

Is that variation not going to be down to needing to setup more local production than has been available previously? Very easy to manufacture and distribute and refrigerate within Europe, bit trickier across Africa.

They should be subsidising those costs somehow by overcharging the wealthiest countries.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that the cost included distribution and storage.
My understanding is that each country is.
responsible for the storage and distribution.

As for overcharging to subsidise,. They could at the very least sell it at the same cost as they are selling to Europe.

average_runner

daydorunrun wrote: »

No offence AR but that isn’t policy, that’s hindsight.

No its something that alot were calling for since last May. Sadly 3 cases of the Brazilian variant here now. Hopefully they are in quarantine.

daydorunrun

average_runner wrote: »

No its something that alot were calling for since last May. Sadly 3 cases of the Brazilian variant here now. Hopefully they are in quarantine.

Nope, saying something should have happened is plainly not a policy it’s a criticism of a lack of policy.
Maybe slightly pedantic but thinking all our woes are travel related is really a smokescreen for a myriad of fuvk ups that has left us in lockdown for one year. There were of course a few weeks off from lockdown to go mad and create the need for another lockdown. All this when we were all told that any lockdown was a last resort and in effect a symptom of mis management.

As regards variants- I find it interesting that there was huge backlash against government policy today and news of the Brazil variant is released this evening, must be working late in the lab tonight.
Viruses mutate- we could as easily have some that came from Donegal first- The Muff variant is coming for you!

robinph

Ceepo wrote: »

I haven't seen anything to suggest that the cost included distribution and storage.
My understanding is that each country is.
responsible for the storage and distribution.

As for overcharging to subsidise,. They could at the very least sell it at the same cost as they are selling to Europe.

The impression I got from a couple of articles I saw pop up elsewhere about India and Australia and the AstraZenica production almost seemed as if they don't actually have a lot to do with it locally. They seed them a couple of millilitres of the stuff they have to grow several thousand litres of, to then be able to grow a batch of the vaccines in, and they then approve the final batches before they get certified, but its otherwise being dealt with by the local production companies. They just have to sell it at cost with an AstraZenica badge on it or they don't get given permission to make it.

Probably vastly missing something somewhere, but didn't seem like AstraZenica were involved with the cost of it. The selling at cost having been the criteria which Oxford set before AstraZenica were brought in originally anyway.

Ceepo

robinph wrote: »

The impression I got from a couple of articles I saw pop up elsewhere about India and Australia and the AstraZenica production almost seemed as if they don't actually have a lot to do with it locally. They seed them a couple of millilitres of the stuff they have to grow several thousand litres of, to then be able to grow a batch of the vaccines in, and they then approve the final batches before they get certified, but its otherwise being dealt with by the local production companies. They just have to sell it at cost with an AstraZenica badge on it or they don't get given permission to make it.

Probably vastly missing something somewhere, but didn't seem like AstraZenica were involved with the cost of it. The selling at cost having been the criteria which Oxford set before AstraZenica were brought in originally anyway.

I honestly have no idea about the production process,
I was only relaying the information that was on Matt Cooper show, that AZ vaccine was going to cost some of poorest in the world l like Uganda over 3 times the price is was going to cost the EU.
The piece I linked earlier, didn't refer to production cost been a factor in retail price.

"South Africa’s deputy director general of health, Anban Pillay, said his government had been told that $5.25 was the set price for a country classified by the World Bank as upper-middle income. “The explanation we were given for why other high-income countries have a lower price is that they have invested in the [research and development], hence the discount,” he added."

The EU were getting a better price based on "investing" in the development of the vaccine,

Israel by comparison is paying 23.50 usd per dose for Pfizer and Moderna.
"Israel, which is on course to vaccinate all its citizens before any other country—having denied responsibility for vaccinating the Palestinians of the Occupied Territories—this month acknowledged paying $23.50 per dose on to Pfizer and Moderna to obtain early shipments."

Chivito550

Ceepo wrote: »

I honestly have no idea about the production process,
I was only relaying the information that was on Matt Cooper show, that AZ vaccine was going to cost some of poorest in the world l like Uganda over 3 times the price is was going to cost the EU.
The piece I linked earlier, didn't refer to production cost been a factor in retail price.

"South Africa’s deputy director general of health, Anban Pillay, said his government had been told that $5.25 was the set price for a country classified by the World Bank as upper-middle income. “The explanation we were given for why other high-income countries have a lower price is that they have invested in the [research and development], hence the discount,” he added."

The EU were getting a better price based on "investing" in the development of the vaccine,

Israel by comparison is paying 23.50 usd per dose for Pfizer and Moderna.
"Israel, which is on course to vaccinate all its citizens before any other country—having denied responsibility for vaccinating the Palestinians of the Occupied Territories—this month acknowledged paying $23.50 per dose on to Pfizer and Moderna to obtain early shipments."

I know nothing about any of this, but stop listening to Matt Cooper. His fear stoking coverage of Covid is shameful.

Ceepo

Chivito550 wrote: »

I know nothing about any of this, but stop listening to Matt Cooper. His fear stoking coverage of Covid is shameful.

I don't disagree with you. I just thought that part was interesting.
Interestingly enough he didn't elaborate on it in any way.

rovers_runner

Another one bites the dust.
Longford Royal canal run event pushed out to 2022.

Dublin Marathon to make statement about series and run shortly after Govt address next week. Should be by first week in March, marathon decision to be deferred to summer I'd say but doesn't look good.
Series might survive if they have capped entries low.
They are possibly already too high but they won't confirm until full statement.

Burkie1203

rovers_runner wrote: »

Another one bites the dust.
Longford Royal canal run event pushed out to 2022.

Dublin Marathon to make statement about series and run shortly after Govt address next week. Should be by first week in March, marathon decision to be deferred to summer I'd say but doesn't look good.
Series might survive if they have capped entries low.
They are possibly already too high but they won't confirm until full statement.

Think the series gets a fair chunk of entries early IIRC

Best I can see is irish residents only, maybe the 10 miler and half bookending September and push marathon back a week to October 31st.

FinnC

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Think the series gets a fair chunk of entries early IIRC

Best I can see is irish residents only, maybe the 10 miler and half bookending September and push marathon back a week to October 31st.

Still have my entry from last year I think. Don’t remember getting a refund on the race series. We’re we supposed to?

Burkie1203

FinnC wrote: »

Still have my entry from last year I think. Don’t remember getting a refund on the race series. We’re we supposed to?

Everything was rolled forward 12 months

py

Refund was a possibility for DCM and race series. I can't recall if there was a cut-off point for it though.

average_runner

Good news in the nursing homes and hospital cases are dropping quickly, vaccine having an effect there.
Vaccine roll out improve last week from 3000 a day to 17000 a day, which is good news also.

With the summer coming, hopefully cases will drop as more people outside and by Sept we might all have the vaccine. So hopefully by Nov/Dec we might see some races.

justdoit

I'm due to do the Vitality Big Half at end of April and the London Landmarks Half at end of May. Update due on the Big Half by Friday of this week, and by 8 March for Landmarks. Not confident about the either going ahead, but hopeful that the later one might get the nod. Will obviously be led by the government, but they are confident they could run the event with 14500 participants in a COVID secure way. We shall see...

Chivito550

Off to the North for races later in the year folks!

The Davestator

Chivito550 wrote: »

Off to the North for races later in the year folks!

off to the North for the holidays too by the looks of it!

average_runner

The Davestator wrote: »

off to the North for the holidays too by the looks of it!

Why not fly out from Dublin?

The Davestator

average_runner wrote: »

Why not fly out from Dublin?

I meant holidaying in the North.

Burkie1203

average_runner wrote: »

Good news in the nursing homes and hospital cases are dropping quickly, vaccine having an effect there.
Vaccine roll out improve last week from 3000 a day to 17000 a day, which is good news also.

With the summer coming, hopefully cases will drop as more people outside and by Sept we might all have the vaccine. So hopefully by Nov/Dec we might see some races.

There is no reason DCM cannot happen if that 17000 0er week is maintained.

Just don't allow overseas entrants

average_runner

Burkie1203 wrote: »

There is no reason DCM cannot happen if that 17000 0er week is maintained.

Just don't allow overseas entrants

Well if there is no concerts or attendance at sport events, it cant go ahead

rovers_runner

Burkie1203 wrote: »

There is no reason DCM cannot happen if that 17000 0er week is maintained.

Just don't allow overseas entrants

Guess you haven't seen the news so.
The "plan" while having f*ck all concrete dates or targets for progress found a way to railroad in a piece about next autumn/winter and further restrictions then.

We are in permanent limbo until we have leaders in Govt who grow a pair of balls and show NPHET who is boss.
As FG are happy to let FF implode further no change is coming before 2022.

average_runner

The Davestator wrote: »

I meant holidaying in the North.

Not sure the north will allow a bunch of unvaccinated irish in without a negative test?

average_runner

rovers_runner wrote: »

Guess you haven't seen the news so.
The "plan" while having f*ck all concrete dates or targets for progress found a way to railroad in a piece about next autumn/winter and further restrictions then.

We are in permanent limbo until we have leaders in Govt who grow a pair of balls and show NPHET who is boss.
As FG are happy to let FF implode further no change is coming before 2022.

Well a minority gave NPHET the power at Christmas