Corona Virus and events

ultrapercy

Chivito550 wrote: »

Good to know where you stand on that. Says a lot.

hope all is going well in the goulag.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

Adjusting for population that's approx 95 in Ireland in a week. Is that hugely different to what's happening here?

7-day average here is 10 per day, so 70 per week.

These deaths are "with Covid" too. How many are "of Covid" we'll never know as we are never told.

EDIT: Just making a simple comparison, before some self-righteous holier-than-though pr**k jumps in and tries to compare me to Joseph Stalin again!!

Friends of mine live In Belgium. They actually wish they were here. Alot more deaths over there, come out of lockdown and back in and in a bigger mess. Government there is useless also. New variant has them on the edge.

Hopefully we see a plan this week and outdoor sports for kids can start. UK vaccine program showing positive results so there is hope.

Government here didnt learn from phase one, shutting thr borders would of enabled us to open on this island. Look at Iceland, oz and new Zealand

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

For those who have blind faith in everything the Government and NPHET are doing and saying:

Mauritius is on Ireland's high risk list for mandatory hotel quarantine. Population 1.25m, total cases 871, deaths 10, no deaths in 11 months. Clear copy and paste job from the UK list, who have Mauritius on their list due to political reasons over a dispute over the Chagos Islands. Incompetence of our Government is truly staggering.

The sheer arrogance and ignorance to put a country on our risk list that has had 1.5% our total cases per million and 0.9% our total deaths per million. In other words, per capita, Ireland has had 67 times more cases and 111 times more deaths than Mauritius. Yet they are a danger to us?

How can anyone have faith in our Government and NPHET with sh1te like this?

And how do u get from that island to here? That's the issue. Should be alot more countries on it.

The list should be similar to the uk or it br pointless. It's a standard

robinph

So now allowed outdoor sport in England again.

Our club is using an app (think provided by England Athletics) where people have to pre book a place, which means they know how many group leaders they need and you also have the contact tracing details sorted. Think we can meet in groups of 6 for group runs now, but in a club run with a run leader it's something like 12 per group.

rovers_runner

robinph wrote: »

So now allowed outdoor sport in England again.

Our club is using an app (think provided by England Athletics) where people have to pre book a place, which means they know how many group leaders they need and you also have the contact tracing details sorted. Think we can meet in groups of 6 for group runs now, but in a club run with a run leader it's something like 12 per group.

Is there a published road map for easing of restrictions up to the holding of larger events?

Snodge

Thoughts on Belfast Irish Milers Meet going ahead on 29th May? And for registered athletes from all counties being allowed to travel?

Has a call been made on Dublin marathon yet?

robinph

rovers_runner wrote: »

Is there a published road map for easing of restrictions up to the holding of larger events?

Yes, and it's significantly better than the previous one where they had the daftness about running 1500m with people starting from opposite sides of the track.

https://www.englandathletics.org/athletics-and-running/news/guidance-update-2021/

So as of today we could actually have races and parkrun back in England.

Chivito550

average_runner wrote: »

And how do u get from that island to here? That's the issue. Should be alot more countries on it.

The list should be similar to the uk or it br pointless. It's a standard

That's not why Mauritius is on the list and you know it. Otherwise most countries in the world would be on the list. Relatively few countries can be reached directly from Ireland.

average_runner

robinph wrote: »

So now allowed outdoor sport in England again.

Our club is using an app (think provided by England Athletics) where people have to pre book a place, which means they know how many group leaders they need and you also have the contact tracing details sorted. Think we can meet in groups of 6 for group runs now, but in a club run with a run leader it's something like 12 per group.

We did something similar here last summer. Worked really well. We also have the app for gaa and hockey.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

That's not why Mauritius is on the list and you know it. Otherwise most countries in the world would be on the list. Relatively few countries can be reached directly from Ireland.

Well i imagine they are in it due to the South African variant and we are trying to stop it from coming in. Cases rising there now and are in lockdown also. They are running a vaccine program now also. Concerns over their vaccine of choice also.



To be honest I would force all countries to quarantine here

Chivito550

average_runner wrote: »

Well i imagine they are in it due to the South African variant and we are trying to stop it from coming in. Cases rising there now and are in lockdown also. They are running a vaccine program now also. Concerns over their vaccine of choice also.



To be honest I would force all countries to quarantine here

Listen to yourself. You think it's down to the RSA variant? Mauritius is nowhere near RSA. It's case numbers and deaths are among the lowest in the world. But sure, let's just lump all of Africa into the one.

You are entitled to your views that every country should be on manditory quarantine list (notwithstanding the fact people can fly in via Belfast to avoid that), but it's totally irrelevant to my point.

The fact remains, the Irish government included a nation with one of the lowest case numbers on earth into its 33-strong high-risk list. A closer look shows it appears on the UK list over a dispute over the Chagos Islands, and nothing to do with Covid. Our lads simply went ctrl-c and ctrl-v.

They have zero credibility and haven't a clue what they are doing.

robinph

Mod: I get that discussion can veer off in unexpected directions, but can we try to keep the discussion at least vaguely connected with athletics/ running and the hopeful return of sports.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

Listen to yourself. You think it's down to the RSA variant? Mauritius is nowhere near RSA. It's case numbers and deaths are among the lowest in the world. But sure, let's just lump all of Africa into the one.

You are entitled to your views that every country should be on manditory quarantine list (notwithstanding the fact people can fly in via Belfast to avoid that), but it's totally irrelevant to my point.

The fact remains, the Irish government included a nation with one of the lowest case numbers on earth into its 33-strong high-risk list. A closer look shows it appears on the UK list over a dispute over the Chagos Islands, and nothing to do with Covid. Our lads simply went ctrl-c and ctrl-v.

They have zero credibility and haven't a clue what they are doing.

Mauritius is in a national lockdown right now and have the South African Variant. Now this is the reason i would put them on the list. Doubt the government did any research though.



"They have zero credibility and haven't a clue what they are doing."


Is 100% right. People are getting doubled book in for a vaccine, causing issues with the supply to other places!!


There is no motivation to do things right in the PS as they are not held accountable for it. That is the big problem for this country.

Government doesn't care about sport, they shut it all down. GAA ran many sessions with no incidents and the same at matches. Athletics did the same at Santry and other places.

ultrapercy

average_runner wrote: »

Mauritius is in a national lockdown right now and have the South African Variant. Now this is the reason i would put them on the list. Doubt the government did any research though.



"They have zero credibility and haven't a clue what they are doing."


Is 100% right. People are getting doubled book in for a vaccine, causing issues with the supply to other places!!


There is no motivation to do things right in the PS as they are not held accountable for it. That is the big problem for this country.

Government doesn't care about sport, they shut it all down. GAA ran many sessions with no incidents and the same at matches. Athletics did the same at Santry and other places.

GAA is great for patting itself on the back. No better organisation for self congratulation but the carry on after County Finals was ridicullous and the cause of a lot of increase in infection. The GAA claim, of course, that the celebrations dont come under their juristriction but it's lame.

average_runner

ultrapercy wrote: »

GAA is great for patting itself on the back. No better organisation for self congratulation but the carry on after County Finals was ridicullous and the cause of a lot of increase in infection. The GAA claim, of course, that the celebrations dont come under their juristriction but it's lame.

Yes you are right about the carry on after the finals. But that was outside the control of the GAA.

My cousin got the virus after attending a county final celebration in a pub in town. Now who is at fault there ? Its the pub and the people going to the celebration. These same people would of went to a house party or pub anyhow!!!

Stark

average_runner wrote: »

Yes you are right about the carry on after the finals. But that was outside the control of the GAA.

True. But NPHET / government are happy to beat other sports down with "associated risk".

"Game of golf or tennis within your household/social bubble? You might bump into someone on the way and stop for a chat"
"Orienteering? You might carpool with someone on the way"

etc.

Perfectly happy for GAA to go ahead but would be nice to see fairness towards sports that aren't GAA. (okay childhood bitterness coming back now from having it forced on me with no other options growing up ).

average_runner

Stark wrote: »

True. But NPHET / government are happy to beat other sports down with "associated risk".

"Game of golf or tennis within your household/social bubble? You might bump into someone on the way and stop for a chat"
"Orienteering? You might carpool with someone on the way"

etc.

Perfectly happy for GAA to go ahead but would be nice to see fairness towards sports that aren't GAA. (okay childhood bitterness coming back now from having it forced on me with no other options growing up ).

Well GAA got the chop this time around but rugby was allowed to continue and we had some indoor athletics which was great. See no reason why golf or tennis shouldn't of happened, except the weather and time of year would restrict both

ariana`

I think all outdoor sports could be able go ahead if people apply common sense to them, if that were possible. I know some very frustrated regular hikers who can't get to their regular haunts due to the 5k restriction, it's very frustrating for people who can't go and walk for hours in a remote setting yet they are allowed add to the already congested city streets & parks

event

Snodge wrote: »

Has a call been made on Dublin marathon yet?

No

rovers_runner

Looks like the bed wetters have won out again, leaks from a sheepish Eamon Ryan in the midnight hour, sneaking out the side gate onto Merrion St.
That sets us back another month no doubt, is it any wonder the brits had us under their thumb for 800 years.

average_runner

rovers_runner wrote: »

Looks like the bed wetters have won out again, leaks from a sheepish Eamon Ryan in the midnight hour, sneaking out the side gate onto Merrion St.
That sets us back another month no doubt, is it any wonder the brits had us under their thumb for 800 years.

Outdoor sports will be going ahead for the kids apparently. That is a good win.


5k expanded to the county, that is good progress.


We weren't going to open up retail or anything when you see what is happening in Europe. Government can't afford another xmas disaster.


NPHET did say May/June is the time to open most things up as more will have the vaccine and the virus should be low then

rovers_runner

average_runner wrote: »

Outdoor sports will be going ahead for the kids apparently. That is a good win.


5k expanded to the county, that is good progress.


We weren't going to open up retail or anything when you see what is happening in Europe. Government can't afford another xmas disaster.


NPHET did say May/June is the time to open most things up as more will have the vaccine and the virus should be low then

In another 2 or 3 weeks if we are good little boys and girls......

Meanwhile we have the HSE under instruction to keep the hospital numbers inflated to suit an agenda, this was a week ago, no doubt there are up to plenty of other tricks to ensure high metrics, the pop up tent in Offaly wasn't for the good of our health.


https://www.newstalk.com/news/coronavirus-restrictions-must-fall-to-level-three-by-june-marc-macsharry-1169094

Deputy MacSharry said he contacted an acute hospital in Dublin over the weekend and was told that around 60% of the COVID-19 patients being cared for had, “very mild symptoms and were being maintained in hospital for containment rather than anything else.”

average_runner

rovers_runner wrote: »

In another 2 or 3 weeks if we are good little boys and girls......

Meanwhile we have the HSE under instruction to keep the hospital numbers inflated to suit an agenda, this was a week ago, no doubt there are up to plenty of other tricks to ensure high metrics, the pop up tent in Offaly wasn't for the good of our health.


https://www.newstalk.com/news/coronavirus-restrictions-must-fall-to-level-three-by-june-marc-macsharry-1169094

Deputy MacSharry said he contacted an acute hospital in Dublin over the weekend and was told that around 60% of the COVID-19 patients being cared for had, “very mild symptoms and were being maintained in hospital for containment rather than anything else.”

What agenda is that?


Government is losing money left right and centre at the moment.

average_runner

average_runner wrote: »

Outdoor sports will be going ahead for the kids apparently. That is a good win.


5k expanded to the county, that is good progress.


We weren't going to open up retail or anything when you see what is happening in Europe. Government can't afford another xmas disaster.


NPHET did say May/June is the time to open most things up as more will have the vaccine and the virus should be low then

why do we keep saying this? It is now 4 months since Christmas. December is peak flu time. People were in their houses all day, heating on, windows shut, germs spread.
Now there are long bright days, we are outside, we have 800K vaccinations delivered to the most vulnerable and Health Care Workers, plus a huge amount of people have immunity from Covid already.

WHY do we keep talking about Christmas???

event

rovers_runner wrote: »

Looks like the bed wetters have won out again, leaks from a sheepish Eamon Ryan in the midnight hour, sneaking out the side gate onto Merrion St.
That sets us back another month no doubt, is it any wonder the brits had us under their thumb for 800 years.

Holy christ

average_runner

Deleted User wrote: »

why do we keep saying this? It is now 4 months since Christmas. December is peak flu time. People were in their houses all day, heating on, windows shut, germs spread.
Now there are long bright days, we are outside, we have 800K vaccinations delivered to the most vulnerable and Health Care Workers, plus a huge amount of people have immunity from Covid already.

WHY do we keep talking about Christmas???

Because there is another wave going through Europe right now.
Also the weather has changed, there is brighter evenings and yet cases are rising



We don't have all the over 70's vaccinated yet, which is a disgrace and we don't have over 800k vaccinated with the second dose.


We will get sport back up in April, which has to be the main thing for the kids.

ariana`

Deleted User wrote: »

why do we keep saying this? It is now 4 months since Christmas. December is peak flu time. People were in their houses all day, heating on, windows shut, germs spread.
Now there are long bright days, we are outside, we have 800K vaccinations delivered to the most vulnerable and Health Care Workers, plus a huge amount of people have immunity from Covid already.

WHY do we keep talking about Christmas???

The problem is people weren't in their houses in December! On Dec 19th the country opened up and people went mad. They met up in groups all around the country and a few days later they visited family for Christmas day celebrations - including elderly vulnerable family - parents, grandparents etc.

Every town in Ireland will have it's local story. I know of a quite a few venues that had gatherings the weekend of 19/20th December in my local town and in the city I grew up. My husband was invited to a gathering that involved finger food in the local pub on Dec 19th :eek: He didn't go... but others did, the country had a party and the Covid numbers peak as a direct result.

Stark

average_runner wrote: »

Because there is another wave going through Europe right now.
Also the weather has changed, there is brighter evenings and yet cases are rising



We don't have all the over 70's vaccinated yet, which is a disgrace and we don't have over 800k vaccinated with the second dose.


We will get sport back up in April, which has to be the main thing for the kids.

Well the clocks only changed 2 days ago and there's a lag between changes in behaviour. We also had "bring your mother an extra special gift this year" day in March followed closely by Paddy's day so that probably pushed cases up a bit. And March was a pretty miserable month weather wise overall. Hopefully now we're in the real good weather period things should settle down a bit as long as people don't act the bollocks over Easter.

ariana`

average_runner wrote: »

Because there is another wave going through Europe right now.
Also the weather has changed, there is brighter evenings and yet cases are rising



We don't have all the over 70's vaccinated yet, which is a disgrace and we don't have over 800k vaccinated with the second dose.


We will get sport back up in April, which has to be the main thing for the kids.

We don't even have the over 75s vaccinated yet. My mother in law is 77 and hasn't even got an appointment yet. It feels like a long time since the initial excitement of the first jabs back in January.

average_runner

ariana` wrote: »

We don't even have the over 75s vaccinated yet. My mother in law is 77 and hasn't even got an appointment yet. It feels like a long time since the initial excitement of the first jabs back in January.

I would keep ringing up. We were told my mother inlaw would get her one the week of 12th April. She is 70

ariana`

average_runner wrote: »

I would keep ringing up. We were told my mother inlaw would get her one the week of 12th April. She is 70

Wow, so 75-80 should be done this week or next week then you'd expect before they start 70-75. I'll say that to her - thanks.

Stark

There is some overlap between the brackets, it's not a strict "100% of one needs to be done before starting on the next". For example if one GP receives enough doses to cover all his/her 75-80 year olds, he/she might invite some 70-75 year olds in to get theirs at the same time. Some 85 year olds got theirs before my 90 year old grandmother for example.

ultrapercy

The man potrayed in the new movie The Mauritanian by Benediction Cucumberface was on Pat Kennys show this morning. Kenny interviewed him over the phone from his home in Mauritis, poor fella after all hes been through he couldn't even travel here because of Irelands covid travel ban. Health and safety first I suppose.

bucketybuck

ariana` wrote: »

The problem is people weren't in their houses in December! On Dec 19th the country opened up and people went mad. They met up in groups all around the country and a few days later they visited family for Christmas day celebrations - including elderly vulnerable family - parents, grandparents etc.

I know I have said it before but I get really tired of hearing this sort of thing.

The country did not go mad at christmas, they just went home. It is insulting and inaccurate to keep hearing that a population who did their best were the reason for a spike during flu season.

Why were cases higher at christmas than they were at the start of the pandemic, higher than when the pubs were actually fully open and people were not wearing masks or social distancing at all?

That contradiction gets ignored, when in fact the reason for the spike was always obvious and is only now being acknowledged by the chumps in charge. B117. The new variant that hit us in December and is now hitting countries further afield with the same results. It was always the reason, far more so than people visiting their parents at christmas.

ariana`

bucketybuck wrote: »

I know I have said it before but I get really tired of hearing this sort of thing.

The country did not go mad at christmas, they just went home. It is insulting and inaccurate to keep hearing that a population who did their best were the reason for a spike during flu season.

Why were cases higher at christmas than they were at the start of the pandemic, higher than when the pubs were actually fully open and people were not wearing masks or social distancing at all?

That contradiction gets ignored, when in fact the reason for the spike was always obvious and is only now being acknowledged by the chumps in charge. B117. The new variant that hit us in December and is now hitting countries further afield with the same results. It was always the reason, far more so than people visiting their parents at christmas.

Of course the new variant is a factor in the spread, I don't think anyone doubts that at this stage, do they? If anything it was very unfortunate that we weren't aware of the B117 variant at the time, maybe more people would have made other choices if we had been aware of it.

But it still stands that people visiting their parents wasn't the issue at Christmas, it was visiting their parents after meeting up with friends, in some cases many different friends, in the days previously. That is the reality. I don't intend it to be insulting as in fairness it is something which was permitted as per the easing of restrictions. At the time groups of 6 were permitted in restaurants iirc and there was no advice (that I recall) around meeting with one group one evening and a different group the next evening.

But it still stands that common sense was not applied by large sections of society. As I said my husband got messages on several WhatsApp groups to the same gathering in the local pub restaurant on the evening of a certain big match :rolleyes: where finger food was to be on offer to thank everyone for their voluntary efforts all year. I'm sure this sort of thing was replicated all around the country and I'm sure these gatherings were a bigger factor in the spread than Jane Doe who met 1 friend in the week before Christmas and was unlucky enough to pick it from that friend and then went home to see her parents for Christmas and brought it to them unknowingly.

average_runner

bucketybuck wrote: »

I know I have said it before but I get really tired of hearing this sort of thing.

The country did not go mad at christmas, they just went home. It is insulting and inaccurate to keep hearing that a population who did their best were the reason for a spike during flu season.

Why were cases higher at christmas than they were at the start of the pandemic, higher than when the pubs were actually fully open and people were not wearing masks or social distancing at all?

That contradiction gets ignored, when in fact the reason for the spike was always obvious and is only now being acknowledged by the chumps in charge. B117. The new variant that hit us in December and is now hitting countries further afield with the same results. It was always the reason, far more so than people visiting their parents at christmas.

People were asked to keep their bubble small, they failed to that. I know people who met 4/5 different groups in restaurants before going home to their parents. That behavior didn't help

Hurrache

bucketybuck wrote: »

I know I have said it before but I get really tired of hearing this sort of thing.

The country did not go mad at christmas, they just went home. It is insulting and inaccurate to keep hearing that a population who did their best were the reason for a spike during flu season.

Plenty of places around the country went mad at Christmas,
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/how-did-a-remote-mayo-town-become-ireland-s-most-covid-infected-place-1.4465431

Stark

B.1.1.7 wasn't a significant factor before Christmas either (despite the government's attempts to deflect blame onto it). Less than <10% of cases when the huge spike happened.

Chivito550

bucketybuck wrote: »

I know I have said it before but I get really tired of hearing this sort of thing.

The country did not go mad at christmas, they just went home. It is insulting and inaccurate to keep hearing that a population who did their best were the reason for a spike during flu season.

Why were cases higher at christmas than they were at the start of the pandemic, higher than when the pubs were actually fully open and people were not wearing masks or social distancing at all?

That contradiction gets ignored, when in fact the reason for the spike was always obvious and is only now being acknowledged by the chumps in charge. B117. The new variant that hit us in December and is now hitting countries further afield with the same results. It was always the reason, far more so than people visiting their parents at christmas.

I laugh when I hear about people apparently going mad at Christmas. I went into town after work on one day to get all my shopping done and the place was depressing. It didn't feel like the lead up to Christmas at all. No pubs, no music on the streets, no Carol singing. It was busy, but there was no joy anywhere. There was no buzz about the place. I couldn't wait to get home from it, and didn't go back in again.

If that's going mad, then I give up!

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

I laugh when I hear about people apparently going mad at Christmas. I went into town after work on one day to get all my shopping done and the place was depressing. It didn't feel like the lead up to Christmas at all. No pubs, no music on the streets, no Carol singing. It was busy, but there was no joy anywhere. There was no buzz about the place. I couldn't wait to get home from it, and didn't go back in again.

If that's going mad, then I give up!

No one is saying that is bad, it's the behaviour of people not keeping the social contacts low.

chinguetti

Everyone has a different opinion on this but I think they do need to hold off a bit until there's more people with at least one jab in the country, especially the over 60s. France have just started to lock down again and it look like Europe is getting another wave from what they're predicting.

For what its worth, I've worked in the city centre most days since last June as I'm an essential worker for my office to keep going. The city centre is much busier the last few weeks, many people have masks under their chins and never put them up when they enter a shop as they've stopped caring and are fed up of this after a year. Social distancing is also a memory to most from what I can see.

Someone said earlier that the city centre was dead at Christmas. Well I saw Grafton Street jammed the two weekends before Christmas with people drinking out of coffee cups barely able to stand at 7pm on the Thursday and Friday evenings. And it wasn't coffee they were drinking. Combine that with people then going home for Christmas and people coming into Ireland for Christmas and you'd a perfect storm for what we got in January/February.

We knew way too late about the new variants and by the time we did, the damage was done. Yes the Government made many mistakes and still are but no Government is wanting to lock down a country for a year as they're going to get slaughtered in the next election. Look at Boris, he's vaccinating anything that moves to change the story on how bad a job he did last year as they've local elections in May and if he doesn't, the Tories would be destroyed and his career too.

People are fed up and we'd all like a bit of a normal life and to see family and friends again and go to a gig, a match, a pub, a restaurant, a cinema etc but the desire to go bald headed back to normal life without a gradual process will be hard for us all to deal with mentally and alot of people haven't thought about that side of the reopening.

Chivito550

chinguetti wrote: »

Everyone has a different opinion on this but I think they do need to hold off a bit until there's more people with at least one jab in the country, especially the over 60s. France have just started to lock down again and it look like Europe is getting another wave from what they're predicting.

For what its worth, I've worked in the city centre most days since last June as I'm an essential worker for my office to keep going. The city centre is much busier the last few weeks, many people have masks under their chins and never put them up when they enter a shop as they've stopped caring and are fed up of this after a year. Social distancing is also a memory to most from what I can see.

Someone said earlier that the city centre was dead at Christmas. Well I saw Grafton Street jammed the two weekends before Christmas with people drinking out of coffee cups barely able to stand at 7pm on the Thursday and Friday evenings. And it wasn't coffee they were drinking. Combine that with people then going home for Christmas and people coming into Ireland for Christmas and you'd a perfect storm for what we got in January/February.

We knew way too late about the new variants and by the time we did, the damage was done. Yes the Government made many mistakes and still are but no Government is wanting to lock down a country for a year as they're going to get slaughtered in the next election. Look at Boris, he's vaccinating anything that moves to change the story on how bad a job he did last year as they've local elections in May and if he doesn't, the Tories would be destroyed and his career too.

People are fed up and we'd all like a bit of a normal life and to see family and friends again and go to a gig, a match, a pub, a restaurant, a cinema etc but the desire to go bald headed back to normal life without a gradual process will be hard for us all to deal with mentally and alot of people haven't thought about that side of the reopening.

I never said it was dead in the city centre at Christmas in the sense that there was nobody in town. I said it was busy, but lifeless. There was no joy or buzz about the place. People were going through the motions.

That was my experience. It was unlike any other Christmas I have ever experienced in Dublin City Centre. I found it rather depressing personally, so opted to stay away thereafter.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

I never said it was dead in the city centre at Christmas in the sense that there was nobody in town. I said it was busy, but lifeless. There was no joy or buzz about the place. People were going through the motions.

That was my experience. It was unlike any other Christmas I have ever experienced in Dublin City Centre. I found it rather depressing personally, so opted to stay away thereafter.

But what did you expect? Most offices are closed, no xmas parties and majority were keeping social contacts low so they could spend xmas with their parents.


I know we avoided social nights out, as we wanted the grandparents here for xmas, which to us meant a normal xmas day as everyone was in our house and everyone had isolated to make it happen. Kids had a ball with their cousin.

bucketybuck

average_runner wrote: »

But what did you expect? Most offices are closed, no xmas parties and majority were keeping social contacts low so they could spend xmas with their parents.

I imagined he expected to see the place "going mad" like people keep saying happened at christmas.

Chivito550

average_runner wrote: »

But what did you expect? Most offices are closed, no xmas parties and majority were keeping social contacts low so they could spend xmas with their parents.


I know we avoided social nights out, as we wanted the grandparents here for xmas, which to us meant a normal xmas day as everyone was in our house and everyone had isolated to make it happen. Kids had a ball with their cousin.

Exactly. My point is most people didn't go mad at Christmas, despite the narrative constantly pushed. Thanks for backing up my original point.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

Exactly. My point is most people didn't go mad at Christmas, despite the narrative constantly pushed. Thanks for backing up my original point.

If we all went mad the numbers would be a lot higher, but it only a took a minority to cause January.

Chivito550

average_runner wrote: »

If we all went mad the numbers would be a lot higher, but it only a took a minority to cause January.

I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing the notion that we as a country went mad. We didn't. But that's the lazy narrative being bandied about. It wasn't the reality for anybody I know personally.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing the notion that we as a country went mad. We didn't. But that's the lazy narrative being bandied about. It wasn't the reality for anybody I know personally.

But that is just the Irish way. Ah we went mad!!!

We do that all the time.

Chivito550

average_runner wrote: »

But that is just the Irish way. Ah we went mad!!!

We do that all the time.

It was the most subdued Christmas for me ever. Other than my parents, sister and fiancé, the only people I met was 2 sets of 2 mates for a walk in the park.

No Christmas party
No Christmas NFL night in Woolshed
No Christmas markets abroad
No night out with the college crew on 23rd
No Xmas eve pints with my childhood mates
No Stephen's Day get together with the extended family
No Leopardstown Races on the 27th
No annual dinner at FX Buckleys with one of my best mates
No NYE night out

Literally every one of my Christmas traditions was gone. I still had a lovely time as I got to spend lots of time with my family.

I suspect it was the same for everyone.

I hate this talk that we are a bunch of wild animals who can't be trusted, who went crazy at Christmas time. I don't know a single soul who had a Christmas full of socialising.

average_runner

Chivito550 wrote: »

It was the most subdued Christmas for me ever. Other than my parents, sister and fiancé, the only people I met was 2 sets of 2 mates for a walk in the park.

No Christmas party
No Christmas NFL night in Woolshed
No Christmas markets abroad
No night out with the college crew on 23rd
No Xmas eve pints with my childhood mates
No Stephen's Day get together with the extended family
No Leopardstown Races on the 27th
No annual dinner at FX Buckleys with one of my best mates
No NYE night out

Literally every one of my Christmas traditions was gone. I still had a lovely time as I got to spend lots of time with my family.

I suspect it was the same for everyone.

I hate this talk that we are a bunch of wild animals who can't be trusted, who went crazy at Christmas time. I don't know a single soul who had a Christmas full of socialising.

Don't worry, alot of that will also disappear if you have kids !!!!!