Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

acequion

facehugger99 wrote: »

I fully agree - there is absolutely no requirement to tell your employer (whether public or private) what you get up to in your spare time. There is no requirement to tell your kids school what you do in your spare time. There is no requirement to tell your dentist what you do in your spare time.

If people aren't comfortable with these statements of fact then don't travel - it won't stop me from heading off though.

Ok but you can't deny that it is a major impediment for a load of people. And who's to say they won't put it on a legal footing, nothing would surprise me!

May I ask if you are impacted by this yourself or are you free to wfh and do your own thing?

polesheep

acequion wrote: »

facehugger99 I like most of your posts and wish there were only more people around like you.

BUT please understand that some people are caught badly in their work. In the entire public service, whether you wfh or not, a 14 day unpaid quarantine has been imposed on those who travel non green list. In fact even if you travel green list you're actually supposed to tell the boss where you're going. Mental stuff!! Now how legal that is I don't know and in other countries unions mightn't be so quiet about it, but this is sheepish Ireland and the unions have done FA. And I have badgered mine.

Now you can say head off and tell no one, say you're heading up the country but most people don't want to have to lie about something like a holiday and if you blatantly defy it you will be landed in trouble with your boss. A lot of hassle for a holiday.

And it's not just the PS. Many private companies have also imposed the unpaid 14 extra days on staff, meaning a holiday becomes 3-4 weeks of which 2 are unpaid, sitting at home. Which I strongly suspect is why international travel from Ireland has been decimated. Granted, you'll have the timid bunch who won't travel in a pandemic, but you'll have a lot, especially younger people who'd love to head off but can't because either themselves or their partners are caught by the above.

And the fact that there is so much acceptance of it and so little noise is very worrying. And the fact that it could go on for months is downright alarming. But hey this is Ireland.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I think you'll find that most union officials are elderly, vulnerable, or government lackys, so don't expect any help there.

John O.Groats

acequion wrote: »

facehugger99 I like most of your posts and wish there were only more people around like you.

BUT please understand that some people are caught badly in their work. In the entire public service, whether you wfh or not, a 14 day unpaid quarantine has been imposed on those who travel non green list. In fact even if you travel green list you're actually supposed to tell the boss where you're going. Mental stuff!! Now how legal that is I don't know and in other countries unions mightn't be so quiet about it, but this is sheepish Ireland and the unions have done FA. And I have badgered mine.

Now you can say head off and tell no one, say you're heading up the country but most people don't want to have to lie about something like a holiday and if you blatantly defy it you will be landed in trouble with your boss. A lot of hassle for a holiday.

And it's not just the PS. Many private companies have also imposed the unpaid 14 extra days on staff, meaning a holiday becomes 3-4 weeks of which 2 are unpaid, sitting at home. Which I strongly suspect is why international travel from Ireland has been decimated. Granted, you'll have the timid bunch who won't travel in a pandemic, but you'll have a lot, especially younger people who'd love to head off but can't because either themselves or their partners are caught by the above.

And the fact that there is so much acceptance of it and so little noise is very worrying. And the fact that it could go on for months is downright alarming. But hey this is Ireland.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Why is that? The country is in deep enough **** already without encouraging more moronic behaviour.

facehugger99

John O.Groats wrote: »

Why is that? The country is in deep enough **** already without encouraging more moronic behaviour.

Trying to get banned from 2 threads in a day?

John O.Groats

facehugger99 wrote: »

The thinking for yourself mentality?

Yeah, I can see how that might be frightening for you to contemplate.


Are you planning to travel or did you just pop into the thread for a bit of a finger-wag?

Thinking for yourself ? You?:D :Probably one of the most delusional of all the "contributors" to this forum?:D Give me a ****ing break.

acequion

John O.Groats wrote: »

Why is that? The country is in deep enough **** already without encouraging more moronic behaviour.

And why is it in deep enough would you think? Despite all our rules and regulations that the Govt themselves got tripped up in, [Clifden golf dinner anyone!!!] we are worse off then many of our European neighbours where freedom of movement remained respected.

So the moronic behaviour isn't coming from those who challenge, rather from the mega morons who unfortunately govern this country. :mad:

John O.Groats

facehugger99 wrote: »

Trying to get banned from 2 threads in a day?

If necessary I will take a permanent ban from the forum or the site and guess what? It will be worth it if it means characters like you can be shown up for what you really are. Either way should I choose to I will be back in one form or another before too long.

Crybabygeeks

Despite a passport arriving in record time, looks as though a trip abroad is not on the cards in 2020 with latest BS updates. Impossible to plan properly. Ugh... What an incompetent group we are "led" by.

FlubberJones

Done the UK, France and South Italy in the last three months, back to the UK in about 6 weeks and then a big one in Jan, hopefully international too. But have to keep a realistic eye on things, in no way worried about flying or travelling etc... just the mega hassles if things go a little awry and the travel is messed up or the flights are cancelled..

DulchieLaois

Still confused by government call on travel.....what was said in the end ?

ninebeanrows

DulchieLaois wrote: »

Still confused by government call on travel.....what was said in the end ?

The green list continues for now, will be updated Thursday? or maybe next Monday?

They will use the EU standard reference for green which is <25 cases per 100k in last 14 days.

Will then be in place until Ireland join the EU standard sometime in October

ninebeanrows

Basically start planning your trip to Germany, flights on ryanair only 7.99 each way :P

dundalkfc10

Any link to a site where you would find the 14 day rate in Europe?

DulchieLaois

What Spain like ?

Van.Bosch

DulchieLaois wrote: »

What Spain like ?

Closer to 250 than 25

Happydays2020

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Closer to 250 than 25

Where we will be next week.

Van.Bosch

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Where we will be next week.

Just as our government stops discouraging travel, we won’t be welcome anywhere!

ninebeanrows

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

daydorunrun

I wonder will the Spanish Islands be treated differently to the mainland?

I’ve heard they are trying to push through fast, subsidised tests and Covid insurance to attract visitors back.

DVDM93

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Any link to a site where you would find the 14 day rate in Europe?

table here & a map underneath.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

ChikiChiki

Anyone travelled into Madrid lately? Can you get a test at the airport or anything?

DVDM93

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/travel-green-list-to-be-updated-before-being-scrapped-in-october-1.4355353%3fmode=amp

Bullocks

daydorunrun wrote: »

I wonder will the Spanish Islands be treated differently to the mainland?

I’ve heard they are trying to push through fast, subsidised tests and Covid insurance to attract visitors back.

We have a holiday booked to Lanzo for the third week of October so I would love to see us being able to travel

gral6

When are they gonna introduce testing at our airports to replace useless 14 days quarantine? Probably after Cork and Shannon's airports closures? It is a shambles...

atahuapla

facehugger99 wrote: »

There is no 14 day quarantine.

You're perfectly free to ignore it - I certainly did.

Totally reckless behaviour. You and your 'Ireland breathes free' buddies are a danger to society.

gral6

atahuapla wrote: »

Totally reckless behaviour. You and your 'Ireland breathes free' buddies are a danger to society.

I did not adhere it too. What the point if some people can congregate together to play golf and party? They better to stick to their stupid rules first themselves.

Van.Bosch

gral6 wrote: »

I did not adhere it too. What the point if some people can congregate together to play golf and party? They better to stick to their stupid rules first themselves.

Who is they?

atahuapla

gral6 wrote: »

I did not adhere it too. What the point if some people can congregate together to play golf and party? They better to stick to their stupid rules first themselves.

Brilliant, you're using one instance of idiotic behaviour to justify your own.

I have real pity at the people who have to involuntarily associate with you and your selfish, dangerous behaviour.

It's a sad state of affairs to see Ireland adopt this anti-science, Dunning-Krugerism from the US.

gral6

atahuapla wrote: »

Brilliant, you're using one instance of idiotic behaviour to justify your own.

I have real pity at the people who have to involuntarily associate with you and your selfish, dangerous behaviour.

It's a sad state of affairs to see Ireland adopt this anti-science, Dunning-Krugerism from the US.

I have good example of perfect behaivour.
Unfortunately, the rules are just for the plebs.

munchkin_utd

gral6 wrote: »

When are they gonna introduce testing at our airports to replace useless 14 days quarantine? Probably after Cork and Shannon's airports closures? It is a shambles...

no its perfectly logical

Germany and Sweden have rates of 20ish per 100k so they are foreign and have the dangerous version of foreign covid so must be kept out and make those people do 14 days quarantine in case they spread it all over the palce

Dublin has nearly 100 cases per 100k, 5 times that of some countries abroad, but thats safe domestic covid and anyone coming from there can roam ireland at will perfectly safely without danger of infecting anyone