Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

BoatMad

colmtheperson wrote: »

Again... Traveling outside of 5km is currently an offence

So if the airport is within 5km its legal

Red Silurian

BoatMad wrote: »

colmtheperson wrote: »

Would you consider going on a holiday and bringing a deadly virus back that eventually kills multiple a restriction on their civil liberties though?

The deadly virus is here or haven’t you noticed
We can’t overcome the U.K. variant by lockdowns it won’t work this isn’t March 2020


Anyway why would anyone want to come back here

So yes or no to my question? Personally I don't think it's much better than murder

BoatMad

colmtheperson wrote: »

Again... Traveling outside of 5km is currently an offence

You are allowed a whole series of exceptions , personally I’m leaving for a year.

And just because someone tells you it’s illegal doesn’t make in wrong , civil rights are just that.

Red Silurian

BoatMad wrote: »

So if the airport is within 5km its legal

As long as you don't travel more than 5km on an airplane yeah sure

Credit Checker Moose

5 km limit is only for exercise. Some prefer to ignore that fact.

Multipass

Just out of interest, how will the Gardai get proof of the non-essential nature of your journey. If you’re flying to visit your dying auntie Mary in Malaga, how far will they be able to go with investigating this possible crime?

Red Silurian

BoatMad wrote: »

You are allowed a whole series of exceptions , personally I’m leaving for a year.

And just because someone tells you it’s illegal doesn’t make in wrong , civil rights are just that.

And just because it's legal doesn't make it right... Like how self isolation wasn't law when you returned from last year's holidays

dartboardio

colmtheperson wrote: »

As long as you don't travel more than 5km on an airplane yeah sure

Ah stop being so ridiculous.

5km travel from your home is banned, yes, unless you are travelling abroad for many possible essential reasons scenarios, work, compassionate/family, moving abroad, education....

I'm flying on Monday and have my 1 way ticket ready to show the guard if he/she asks, or stops me, which I highly doubt they will since they haven't the last few times.

RobitTV

I suppose the new Garda covid air force are going to pull the airplane over in mid air for an inspection. Then turf everyone out.

BringBackMick

dartboardio wrote: »

Ah stop being so ridiculous.

5km travel from your home is banned, yes, unless you are travelling abroad for many possible essential reasons scenarios, work, compassionate/family, moving abroad, education....

I'm flying on Monday and have my 1 way ticket ready to show the guard if he/she asks, or stops me, which I highly doubt they will since they haven't the last few times.

I wonder what gets accepted.

If I am heading along with my French girlfriend to go visit her sick mother is this an essential reason and will I be allowed through?

Red Silurian

dartboardio wrote: »

Ah stop being so ridiculous.

5km travel from your home is banned, yes, unless you are travelling abroad for many possible essential reasons scenarios, work, compassionate/family, moving abroad, education....

I'm flying on Monday and have my 1 way ticket ready to show the guard if he/she asks, or stops me, which I highly doubt they will since they haven't the last few times.

Moving house is a legally valid reason to travel beyond 5km, it's not specific to international travel

Multipass wrote: »

Just out of interest, how will the Gardai get proof of the non-essential nature of your journey. If you’re flying to visit your dying auntie Mary in Malaga, how far will they be able to go with investigating this possible crime?

Your passport gets scanned in Ireland and in Spain, the onus would probably be on you to prove it was an essential trip

Red Silurian

BringBackMick wrote: »

I wonder what gets accepted.

If I am heading along with my French girlfriend to go visit her sick mother is this an essential reason and will I be allowed through?

You should be but you could be caught at the checkpoint so leave plenty of time and bring proof if possible, and remember that even for essential journeys you need the PCR tests etc etc

Dr. Em

BoatMad wrote: »

Finland and many Scandi have relatively relaxed quarantines. Currently few countries have mandatory hotel based quarantine

Travel isn’t the problem. Less then 1% of infections are occurring that way

You have 10000 lorry drivers entering this country a week. Funny that.

You haven't checked small print recently. Denmark had a near-complete travel-ban in mid Jan and is now rolling out mandatory quarantine hotels. Norway has a mandatory hotel quarantine for anyone who doesn't have a residence in Norway and Oslo is in a strict lockdown. They even tried banning the sale of alcohol. Finland is only allowing certain essential workers, residents and citizens to enter. Sweden is more relaxed, but is closing down travel with certain countries.

BoatMad

Dr. Em wrote: »

You haven't checked small print recently. Denmark had a near-complete travel-ban in mid Jan and is now rolling out mandatory quarantine hotels. Norway has a mandatory hotel quarantine for anyone who doesn't have a residence in Norway and Oslo is in a strict lockdown. They even tried banning the sale of alcohol. Finland is only allowing certain essential workers, residents and citizens to enter. Sweden is more relaxed, but is closing down travel with certain countries.

I’m staying away for over a year. 14 days in quarantine isn’t a problem one way or the other.

Multipass

colmtheperson wrote: »

Your passport gets scanned in Ireland and in Spain, the onus would probably be on you to prove it was an essential trip

That doesn’t make sense. They’re only talking about checkpoints on airport roads, not the CIA tracking down citizens abroad. The onus will be on the Garda at the roadside to prove that the story you’re telling him isn’t true. Some people will in fact be travelling to sick relatives, but I can’t think of an easy way that can be proved at a checkpoint :pac:

BoatMad

colmtheperson wrote: »

And just because it's legal doesn't make it right... Like how self isolation wasn't law when you returned from last year's holidays

I did my quarantine thanks.

Red Silurian

BoatMad wrote: »

I’m staying away for over a year. 14 days in quarantine isn’t a problem one way or the other.

Where you headed if you don't mind me asking? Anywhere nice?

BoatMad

Multipass wrote: »

That doesn’t make sense. They’re only talking about checkpoints on airport roads, not the CIA tracking down citizens abroad. The onus will be on the Garda at the roadside to prove that the story you’re telling him isn’t true. Some people will in fact be travelling to sick relatives, but I can’t think of an easy way that can be proved at a checkpoint :pac:

Correct the Garda must have a “reasonable “ suspicion to issue a fine it’s not just arbitrarily

dartboardio

BringBackMick wrote: »

I wonder what gets accepted.

If I am heading along with my French girlfriend to go visit her sick mother is this an essential reason and will I be allowed through?

I'm sure just you saying that alone will be fine! Similar to me, if I get stopped and asked, I will let them know I'm moving away for a few months, and if they need proof, I have my one way travel ticket, but I don't see it going that far to be honest!

BoatMad

colmtheperson wrote: »

Where you headed if you don't mind me asking? Anywhere nice?

Yes it’s nice thanks. Lockdown in 30 degrees is better then a miserable summer here. I’ll stay away through the winter and then reevaluate 2022 essentially I’m moving domicile

Red Silurian

BoatMad wrote: »

Yes it’s nice thanks. Lockdown in 30 degrees is better then a miserable summer here. I’ll stay away through the winter and then reevaluate 2022 essentially I’m moving domicile

I disagree, I'd rather have more freedoms in ****e weather than being locked down in the sun... Each to their own though!

dartboardio

colmtheperson wrote: »

I disagree, I'd rather have more freedoms in ****e weather than being locked down in the sun... Each to their own though!

well that's not an option since Ireland is in full lockdown so I'd choose the other lockdown in the sun anyday over wet and cold Ireland :rolleyes:

BoatMad

colmtheperson wrote: »

I disagree, I'd rather have more freedoms in ****e weather than being locked down in the sun... Each to their own though!

I was lockdowned last year there ( with a curfew ) still preferable. Had to come home for family reasons. Bad decision

RobitTV

Would be wonderful to be in Lanzarote now. Life is close to normal, they just have a night curfew and the bars and restaurants close earlier. When the cases decline they will close at 12am again.

Red Silurian

dartboardio wrote: »

well that's not an option since Ireland is in full lockdown so I'd choose the other lockdown in the sun anyday over wet and cold Ireland :rolleyes:

You think this lockdown will last much longer? Numbers have been looking good the last few days I don't think we will be in lockdown past march! I don't know, if I've nice weather I wanna be out if it's crap weather it's easier for me to stay at home...

BoatMad wrote: »

I was lockdowned last year there ( with a curfew ) still preferable. Had to come home for family reasons. Bad decision

Family reasons are good reasons though...

Red Silurian

RobitTV wrote: »

Would be wonderful to be in Lanzarote now. Life is close to normal, they just have a night curfew and the bars and restaurants close earlier. When the cases decline they will close at 12am again.

Most of those holiday destinations had a cap on the virus last summer as well, Cyprus and Malta were even on our 'green list' Even today I think there's a popular Greek island that still has no cases but the name of it escapes me

The problem is they all allowed the tourists in and the virus went out of control again

RobitTV

colmtheperson wrote: »

Most of those holiday destinations had a cap on the virus last summer as well, Cyprus and Malta were even on our 'green list' Even today I think there's a popular Greek island that still has no cases but the name of it escapes me

The problem is they all allowed the tourists in and the virus went out of control again

I read on some of the Lanzarote local groups that they are pointing the finger at students who came home from mainland Spain without a PCR test and began mixing heavily with family and friends across the island.

Tourists who arrived from UK and Ireland have had to get a test done beforehand for weeks now. And tourists don't generally mix with much of the local population, because the locals are trying to avoid contact with the tourists and stay at home.

There was a huge amount of mixing at Christmas time in Lanzarote. They seem to be blaming the local population and returning family members on this occasion.

BoatMad

colmtheperson wrote: »

Most of those holiday destinations had a cap on the virus last summer as well, Cyprus and Malta were even on our 'green list' Even today I think there's a popular Greek island that still has no cases but the name of it escapes me

The problem is they all allowed the tourists in and the virus went out of control again

The tourist season ran a quite normal period last summer in Corfu. Even as the lockdown occurred it had low numbers the problem being Athens and surrounding areas.

It’s not tourists that are causing this.

Donald Trump

Multipass wrote: »

That doesn’t make sense. They’re only talking about checkpoints on airport roads, not the CIA tracking down citizens abroad. The onus will be on the Garda at the roadside to prove that the story you’re telling him isn’t true. Some people will in fact be travelling to sick relatives, but I can’t think of an easy way that can be proved at a checkpoint :pac:

I don't think you understand how these things work in practice.


Guard can issue you with a fine if he doesn't accept your excuse and it's up to you to contest it later if you want

BoatMad

RobitTV wrote: »

I read on some of the Lanzarote local groups that they are pointing the finger at students who came home from mainland Spain without a PCR test and began mixing heavily with family and friends across the island.

Tourists who arrived from UK and Ireland have had to get a test done beforehand for weeks now. And tourists don't generally mix with much of the local population, because the locals are trying to avoid contact with the tourists and stay at home.

There was a huge amount of mixing at Christmas time in Lanzarote. They seem to be blaming the local population and returning family members on this occasion.

Correct I have close friends in Corfu. The summer ran close to normal and numbers stayed low despite tourists coming in

The issue restarted in Athens not the tourist areas