Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

RobitTV

You know what, this 'Lanzarote' incident tonight was probably orchestrated by the media in order to pressure the government to finally cave in and activate mandatory quarantine. The public mood is now out of control and there will be anger about this for days.

The media have done NPHET's work again.

Red Silurian

Northernlily wrote: »

The more I think of it, the more it looks like a blatant attempt by the Govt to stitch up travelmakers to distract from their own failings.

More cases in January alone than all of last year. That screams massive failure.

i guarantee you most people pissed about Lanzarotegate are more than capable of being pissed about this governments complete mishandling of the pandemic, who remembers the lack of outrage 2 weeks ago when we were all focused on the mother and baby homes they re-admitted their 6 golfgate senators

josip wrote: »

Were the RTE camera crew at the airport fined €100 by the Gardai for going beyond the 5km?
Because that certainly was not an essential trip.

News and current affairs workers are essential workers by law

Red Silurian

RobitTV wrote: »

You know what, this 'Lanzarote' incident tonight was probably orchestrated by the media in order to pressure the government to finally cave in and activate mandatory quarantine. The public mood is now out of control and there will be anger about this for days.

The media have done NPHET's work again.

Be nice if it was true

daydorunrun

TallyRand wrote: »

Load of bollox, do you all forget the cheltenham spike that never happened lads?

Hospitals and nursing homes is where all the bad action is, same as every other country it seems.....stop all your finger wagging. I bet you all have no problem going into spar or centra every week? Do you think the staff there are robots or somehow super covid immune?

Nursing homes and hospitals lads

I use the self service till so yes, they are robots.

I can’t respond to the rest of your post coz I’m not sure what Points you’ve trying to make...genuinely.

Northernlily

Jake1 wrote: »

I think what sticks in my craw the most, is the hypocrisy surrounding Covid and who is 'guilty' and who is not quite guilty , but should be watched..
By people who are so full of their own self importance that they think THYEY are above the law.

For example, on some of the shows on RTE, discussing Covid, could some of them, if not all just zoom?? Why is their presence essential? Who decides?.

Those reporters showing up with cameras ready to be in peoples faces, assuming every single person on the flight had no business coming into Ireland, yet they felt or were given the Go ahead, to traipse on into Dublin airport, more than likely going beyond their 5km, just to embarass people??
FFS, so much bull****.

So many politicians using this to grandstand. Would sicken yer hole

They know their audience. Busybody auld ones will do their work tomorrow on the phones spreading the narrative and low and behold the Christmas and subsequent carnage gets blamed on an unfortunate few.

Joe Duffy should be a good listen.

theguzman

RobitTV wrote: »

You know what, this 'Lanzarote' incident tonight was probably orchestrated by the media in order to pressure the government to finally cave in and activate mandatory quarantine. The public mood is now out of control and there will be anger about this for days.

This is exactly what it was, a bit of propaganda, the full details of the mandatory quarantine has yet to emerge. But this is designed to somehow bolster them. As I have long maintained one of the first steps of beating the pandemic and mental health crisis it is causing would be to take RTE off the air. I see nothing wrong with these people traveling and I applaud them for it, they are helping out the economy of Lanzarote and entitled to spend their money as they wish. If people are not careful it is you that the Govt will come after next with some other form of draconian laws.

TallyRand

daydorunrun wrote: »

I use the self service till so yes, they are robots.

I can’t respond to the rest of your post coz I’m not sure what Points you’ve trying to make...genuinely.

I hope you don’t touch any items because 100 other people could have touched them?

Very clear what I’m saying, but you carry on being confused there like a good simpleton

Quit the personal abuse

RobitTV

Holy Mary mother of sweet holy Mary mother of holy jesus - Joe Duffy will be like WW3 tomorrow.

"Joe I was PHYSICALLY SICK"
"JOE I HAD TO TURN OFF THE TV"
"We need to start arresting people and throwing the key away"
"We need camps for these people"

daydorunrun

TallyRand wrote: »

I hope you don’t touch any items because 100 other people could have touched them?
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No need for personal abuse, I was willing to enter into an adult debate which you’re obviously not capable of.

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Donald Trump

daydorunrun wrote: »

I accept that to a degree. However hospitals and health care settings have been a massive driver of cases since the beginning. The government have failed miserably to deal with it and are virtue signalling about flights coming from countries where everyone has to wear a mask at all times and has to be tested on the way in and the way out as well as having a second test here after 5 days or isolating for 14 days.

If I break my leg tomorrow and go into hospital, and happen to pick up covid there. From the staff or whatever. Then I am a person in hospital with corona. But given that I am in hospital already, I'm unlikely to be spreading it around the general community.


I think that things should have been more serious before Christmas. People wanted to go out for two weeks and do their shopping and bit of sly socialising. And we are all paying for it now and people are realising it wasn't really a case of "ah shure what harm".



Everyone wants to be out of the current level of lockdown. Some appear to think that the way to do that is for "de gubbermint" just to decree no more restrictions in the morning. I think that the best way is to crack down on the messers and the piss takers.

RobitTV

RobitTV wrote: »

Yes, but if you travel up to the airport when the 5km limit is in place, then you are more likely to be caught and interviewed in general.

If you go back to Level 3, you can travel in your own county and there is no legal basis for stopping people travelling outside of it.

You could just say you are going for a spin since there is no legal limit anymore. The Gardai can only recommend you don't travel outside of your county.

Again no. The regulations still state no non essential travel.

Forget the 5km, it's not part of this. The fine isn't for being beyond 5km. It's for engaging in non essential travel.

We won't know how level 3 works until we get into level 3 and see what's actually put in place but if it remains a case of 'only essential travel and exercise, etc' then fines can still be issued if you are just driving around for ****s and giggles.

Again though, that's based on an 'if' because until it happens, we don't know what will be in place and won't won't.

I for one just want the remote control from the film click and get into March where fingers crossed, a mix of reduced numbers and vaccinations means we can get into a level 3 with some freedoms again and we are able to jump in the car.

Richard Hillman

It's a leaving town tax, pure and simple.

TallyRand

daydorunrun wrote: »

No need for personal abuse, I was willing to enter into an adult debate which you’re obviously not capable of.

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Oh no please don’t! What will I do if I can’t access boards.ie dear god!!

Gold star for you on your covid safety, have a little smug moment there ....keep up the finger wagging. It’s all the fault of the people who have been in a safer area and where tested before arrival back here.

Donald Trump

TallyRand wrote: »

Amazing lesson in human behaviour here! Bunch of psychos flipping because people went to a safer place than Ireland, tested both ways and yet they are somehow the villains.....stasi stuff going on! Some righteous people might be a little embarrassed when they calm down

At this stage of the game, almost a year into it, and some people still don't understand the importance of trying to control and contain the spread.


If you are going away, I couldn't give a shite where you go to. Higher level or lower level. As long as you aren't coming back.


How difficult can it be to understand? It blows my mind. If the 14 day infection rate in the UK was 1000 per 100k people then you shouldn't go there and come back. It doesn't magically make it ok to do it if the rate in Ireland in 1001 vs 999.

TallyRand

Donald Trump wrote: »

At this stage of the game, almost a year into it, and some people still don't understand the importance of trying to control and contain the spread.


If you are going away, I couldn't give a shite where you go to. Higher level or lower level. As long as you aren't coming back.


How difficult can it be to understand? It blows my mind. If the 14 day infection rate in the UK was 1000 per 100k people then you shouldn't go there and come back. It doesn't magically make it ok to do it if the rate in Ireland in 1001 vs 999.

Safer to go to Sweden than Belgium, doesn’t suit the fearmongering but a fact all the same.....how does fact sit with you?

Il Trap

I'm confused and prefer not to scroll back through multiple pages, so my question is, if you DO have a negative PCR test before travelling into Ireland from a country that is not Brazil, UK or SA, do you have to complete the 14 day quarantine (presumably from home)?

Northernlily

Northernlily wrote: »

They know their audience. Busybody auld ones will do their work tomorrow on the phones spreading the narrative and low and behold the Christmas and subsequent carnage gets blamed on an unfortunate few.

Joe Duffy should be a good listen.

Id sooner ram an ice pick through my ears than listen to that aul ****e
I can picture McSavages Joe thinking about all that gloom and misery porn

'an how long was your neighbour in Lanzerotty, Mary. ?
'Two weeks Joe, two whole bleedin weeks, Im livin on me nerves at the thought so them coming home and being next door beside me Joe'
'yeah yeah, Mary, tis terrible, soz it tis.'


and so on...

Donald Trump

TallyRand wrote: »

Safer to go to Sweden than Belgium, doesn’t suit the fearmongering but a fact all the same.....how does fact sit with you?

It is quite simple. I don't' know how you can't wrap your head around it. People are not personally concerned at the level of risk you decide to expose yourself to. You can go to London and lick all the doorhandles and toilet seats you can find if you want. Or you can go to the North pole and live in an igloo on your own. As long as you don't come back. If you are coming back, then there is an issue



The people don't care whether the rate in your estate or town or village is 10 or 100 or 1000. They only care about controlling the the spread of the disease. Travel spreads the disease. Unnecessary travel is stupid and impacts everyone by prolonging it for everyone - including yourself.

Richard Hillman

Richard Hillman wrote: »

It's a leaving town tax, pure and simple.

That already exists. It's included in your ticket

Donald Trump

Jake1 wrote: »

Id sooner ram an ice pick through my ears than listen to that aul ****e
I can picture McSavages Joe thinking about all that gloom and misery porn

'an how long was your neighbour in Lanzerotty, Mary. ?
'Two weeks Joe, two whole bleedin weeks, Im livin on me nerves at the thought so them coming home and being next door beside me Joe'
'yeah yeah, Mary, tis terrible, soz it tis.'


and so on...

You do know that there are literally thousands of families who have lost loved ones and family members due to the virus?
You should have a little bit of respect. If your family, god forbid, joins that list, I don't think you'd take too kindly to anyone referring to the worries that you end up going through as "misery porn".




If you want to book your own travel, that is fine. If there are restrictions in place when you are due to travel then obey them. If those restrictions involve a prohibition of leisure trips, then don't go.

Gael23

Anyone still hoping to get away September/October?

Donald Trump

Gael23 wrote: »

Anyone still hoping to get away September/October?

I was hoping for October. Not booked. Will have to reassess given recent news/developments.

bikeman1

Gael23 wrote: »

Anyone still hoping to get away September/October?

I’ll be off a few times in the Summer myself, when cases will be low again as the seasonality of the virus kicks in and we can throw open the windows and know what to do to reduce spread. Vaccines will play a huge part too.

Green list countries will be back and Europe will need tourism or certain regions face total collapse.

Spain will be on the cards this year after Italy and France last year. I have a family visit long overdue to the UK, hopefully that will be green listed too unlike 2020.

Gael23

Gael23 wrote: »

Anyone still hoping to get away September/October?

Yes, booked and not worried. It's been 9 months since this hit Ireland. It's another 9 for my holiday.

Red Silurian

Gael23 wrote: »

Anyone still hoping to get away September/October?

Maybe a few of the super-rich who can afford to have plans cancelled at the last minute

colmtheperson

colmtheperson wrote: »

Maybe a few of the super-rich who can afford to have plans cancelled at the last minute

There's not a company out there not offering change or cancellation due to covid-19

Donald Trump

Donald Trump wrote: »

You do know that there are literally thousands of families who have lost loved ones and family members due to the virus?
You should have a little bit of respect. If your family, god forbid, joins that list, I don't think you'd take too kindly to anyone referring to the worries that you end up going through as "misery porn".




If you want to book your own travel, that is fine. If there are restrictions in place when you are due to travel then obey them. If those restrictions involve a prohibition of leisure trips, then don't go.

How dare you. I have plenty of respect for families who lost loved ones. My rant, as it were, was certainly not directed at them, which Im fairly sure you know. It was directed at the misery porn RTE puts out on many an occasion.

But, thanks letting us all know, that you are better than me.

Dr. Em

Il Trap wrote: »

I'm confused and prefer not to scroll back through multiple pages, so my question is, if you DO have a negative PCR test before travelling into Ireland from a country that is not Brazil, UK or SA, do you have to complete the 14 day quarantine (presumably from home)?

Currently, it is advised to restrict your movements at home for 14 days after travel (i.e. quarantine unless you are unable to get food delivered and need to go to a shop). This can end if you get a negative PCR test at least five days after entry. Quarantining at home will become law as soon as they can pass new legislation. https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/e2374-extension-of-level-5-restrictions-and-introduction-of-measures-for-international-travel/

Gael23

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Yes, booked and not worried. It's been 9 months since this hit Ireland. It's another 9 for my holiday.

When are you going?

RobitTV

I still want to head abroad in mid March when things improve significantly. But it's looking unlikely again.

I think the summer is realistic, I will probably head to Spain for a few weeks.