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Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

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    #1412
    SnowyMay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 544 ✭✭✭SnowyMay


    Hi all

    I have a question - apologies if this has been covered already.

    I’m Irish, but live abroad (Germany) and would like to travel back to Ireland with my German boyfriend to see my family in maybe September or so. Undecided whether to fly, or to make it into a road trip holiday and take a ferry from France.

    In case of a new wave, are there any recommendations of travel insurance companies who would cover the cost of the trip and cancellation should quarantine or other restrictions be in place - either in Ireland or Germany (or possibly France if we ferry it)?

    Thanks!


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    #1413
    spockety
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    SnowyMay wrote: »
    Hi all

    I have a question - apologies if this has been covered already.

    I’m Irish, but live abroad (Germany) and would like to travel back to Ireland with my German boyfriend to see my family in maybe September or so. Undecided whether to fly, or to make it into a road trip holiday and take a ferry from France.

    In case of a new wave, are there any recommendations of travel insurance companies who would cover the cost of the trip and cancellation should quarantine or other restrictions be in place - either in Ireland or Germany (or possibly France if we ferry it)?

    Thanks!

    None of your standard insurance companies will cover that.

    You'd be looking to get something specialist, and I'd imagine the premium would be eye watering.


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    #1414
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    SnowyMay wrote: »
    Hi all

    I have a question - apologies if this has been covered already.

    I’m Irish, but live abroad (Germany) and would like to travel back to Ireland with my German boyfriend to see my family in maybe September or so. Undecided whether to fly, or to make it into a road trip holiday and take a ferry from France.

    In case of a new wave, are there any recommendations of travel insurance companies who would cover the cost of the trip and cancellation should quarantine or other restrictions be in place - either in Ireland or Germany (or possibly France if we ferry it)?

    Thanks!

    On the Spain travel forum, two posters report that Multitrip travel insurance and Chill will cover Irish travellers travelling this summer to there except for Covid which would get cover through the EHIC card.


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    #1415
    [Deleted User]
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    SnowyMay wrote: »
    Hi all

    I have a question - apologies if this has been covered already.

    I’m Irish, but live abroad (Germany) and would like to travel back to Ireland with my German boyfriend to see my family in maybe September or so. Undecided whether to fly, or to make it into a road trip holiday and take a ferry from France.

    In case of a new wave, are there any recommendations of travel insurance companies who would cover the cost of the trip and cancellation should quarantine or other restrictions be in place - either in Ireland or Germany (or possibly France if we ferry it)?

    Thanks!

    The risk of being caught up in a local lockdown while abroad, and having to pay out of pocket for alternative flights and accommodation for a period of time, is something that those of us who are travelling are prepared to accept. As is the last minute cancellation and loss of all prepaid travel arrangements.

    However, most airlines and ferries, and many hotels, continue to waive change fees, in order to encourage people to book. I've taken advantage of this, booking some cheap tickets to various places, knowing that I will be able to change to date whenever I want


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    #1416
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,888 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    SnowyMay wrote: »
    <snip>
    In case of a new wave, are there any recommendations of travel insurance companies who would cover the cost of the trip and cancellation should quarantine or other restrictions be in place - either in Ireland or Germany (or possibly France if we ferry it)?

    Thanks!
    do you really need insurance for cancellation in case of covid lockdowns ?

    if visiting home then accomodation is free (so free cancellation!) and the only other expense is the flight, and airlines have allowed free rebooking / vouchers with minimal of fuss if theres issues due to corona.

    Travel insurance really makes sense if booking holidays worth 1000s for 3+ people and/ or elderly people who may get sick easier or need repatriation, but a couple of flights @100 a pop surely doesnt need to be insured ?


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    #1417
    CruelSummer
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    Interesting that Iceland is an associate member of the Schengen area, they reopened their borders and gave travellers a choice. Pay for the Covid 19 test at the airport or Quarantine for 2 weeks. That could work here...

    https://www.isavia.is/en/keflavik-airport/about-kef/measures--related-to-covid-19


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    #1418
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,888 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Interesting that Iceland is an associate member of the Schengen area, they reopened their borders and gave travellers a choice. Pay for the Covid 19 test at the airport or Quarantine for 2 weeks. That could work here...

    https://www.isavia.is/en/keflavik-airport/about-kef/measures--related-to-covid-19
    yep,
    I can image my cousin on the border getting a covid test in order to cross the border and check his cattle on the other side, when travelling from South armagh (UK) to Louth (IRL)


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    #1419
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Interesting that Iceland is an associate member of the Schengen area, they reopened their borders and gave travellers a choice. Pay for the Covid 19 test at the airport or Quarantine for 2 weeks. That could work here...

    https://www.isavia.is/en/keflavik-airport/about-kef/measures--related-to-covid-19

    That doesn't address the government's goal, they want people to spend what money they have in the tourism sector here. Coercion and shaming are the tactics being employed.


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    #1420
    Engineering112
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Engineering112


    We all want a sunny holiday but is it worth the risk? Ireland is doing so well and for now we should consider our health, the health of our relatives etc and maybe say no to a foreign holiday for now. Where I live is doing so well at the moment and it would be disappointing to see a surge.


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    #1421
    Plumbthedepths
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    Engineering112 wrote: »
    We all want a sunny holiday but is it worth the risk? Ireland is doing so well and for now we should consider our health, the health of our relatives etc and maybe say no to a foreign holiday for now. Where I live is doing so well at the moment and it would be disappointing to see a surge.

    People that have family aboard, should they not visit them? Any thoughts on when they should?


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    #1422
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    SnowyMay wrote: »
    Hi all

    I have a question - apologies if this has been covered already.

    I’m Irish, but live abroad (Germany) and would like to travel back to Ireland with my German boyfriend to see my family in maybe September or so. Undecided whether to fly, or to make it into a road trip holiday and take a ferry from France.

    In case of a new wave, are there any recommendations of travel insurance companies who would cover the cost of the trip and cancellation should quarantine or other restrictions be in place - either in Ireland or Germany (or possibly France if we ferry it)?

    Thanks!

    It may be worth checking with Irish Ferries whether the ferries stayed in operation during lock down 1. If so may be a nice road trip with minimal risk.

    I should add that I don’t believe that people travelling home across borders have been stopped to date.


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    #1423
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Engineering112 wrote: »
    We all want a sunny holiday but is it worth the risk? Ireland is doing so well and for now we should consider our health, the health of our relatives etc and maybe say no to a foreign holiday for now. Where I live is doing so well at the moment and it would be disappointing to see a surge.

    1) A "sunny holiday" is a critical mental health issue for many. Open your windows and look at the weather.

    2) Tourism, aviation and travel jobs matter too.


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    #1424
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    People that have family aboard, should they not visit them? Any thoughts on when they should?

    My partner's family live abroad, we had planned a trip for a big family reunion later this month, needless to say we wont be travelling, personally I think it will be next January or February at the very earliest.


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    #1425
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    The_Brood wrote: »
    1) A "sunny holiday" is a critical mental health issue for many. Open your windows and look at the weather.

    2) Tourism, aviation and travel jobs matter too.

    I'm practically mahogany at this stage from all the sun we had in May and early June, several people have asked me if I managed to "sneak" away. It might not be great at the moment but many of of us were off work during really good weather, at least it was good here in Cork.


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    #1426
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users Posts: 7,888 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    People that have family aboard, should they not visit them? Any thoughts on when they should?

    according to the census "In April 2016, there were 535,475 non-Irish nationals living in Ireland"

    thats an awful lot of people being told to not visit their families until the virus dissappears, which may mean (outside chance) never getting a cure so never visiting their family .

    Theres also 1 million irish born living in GB - so they also must be banned from crossing the irish sea I presume, again open ended potentially to never step foot on the island again, if some here and Tony have their way.


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    #1427
    facehugger99
    Registered Users Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Arnold Layne wrote: »
    We're due to fly to Tenerife in the first week in August for 10 days. Travel Republic have contacted me that the remainder of my payment is due on July 22nd. If the DFA advise against non-essential travel to Spain on July 20th, do I still pay the remainder of the balance in the hope of getting a refund if we decide not to travel?

    At the moment we are going, but my daughter is concerned as she is due to start Secondary school on August 24th and is worried she may not be able to attend if we have to self-isolate upon our return on August 15th. I don't believe schools will be open then, but it is a concern.

    Where you go on holidays is none of the schools business.

    We are lucky enough to live in a liberal democracy for the moment despite what the hysteria-merchants would like.

    People with families will not be hitting the sweaty bars and nightclubs getting pissed until 4am. The attempted demonising of these people by the politicians, state broadcaster and social-media Karens is obnoxious. The 'risk' is minuscule.


    Go and enjoy your holidays and send your daughter into school when you get back. You have probably worked and saved hard for it.


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    #1428
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    Seamai wrote: »
    I'm practically mahogany at this stage from all the sun we had in May and early June, several people have asked me if I managed to "sneak" away. It might not be great at the moment but many of of us were off work during really good weather, at least it was good here in Cork.

    And many of us have been up to our tonsils working throughout firstly looking at the nice weather, and more recently at grey skies and rain.


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    #1429
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    And many of us have been up to our tonsils working throughout firstly looking at the nice weather, and more recently at grey skies and rain.

    Some of us have lost our jobs and the future isn't looking too rosy. 2 weeks on some concrete costa wouldn't cut it for me, it's the least of my worries.


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    #1430
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    Seamai wrote: »
    My partner's family live abroad, we had planned a trip for a big family reunion later this month, needless to say we wont be travelling, personally I think it will be next January or February at the very earliest.

    Are they in Europe? If so, I genuinely don’t understand why you wouldn’t travel. I’ve just been to see family and friends in Geneva and don’t believe that I exposed anyone to any increased risk whatsoever


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    #1431
    joseywhales
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    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Where you go on holidays is none of the schools business.

    We are lucky enough to live in a liberal democracy for the moment despite what the hysteria-merchants would like.

    People with families will not be hitting the sweaty bars and nightclubs getting pissed until 4am. The attempted demonising of these people by the politicians, state broadcaster and social-media Karens is obnoxious. The 'risk' is minuscule.


    Go and enjoy your holidays and send your daughter into school when you get back. You have probably worked and saved hard for it.

    Who are these Karen's? Are they any relation of Mick and Paddy? Because the Mick's and Paddy's might be found in the bar at 4am.


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    #1432
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Are they in Europe? If so, I genuinely don’t understand why you wouldn’t travel. I’ve just been to see family and friends in Geneva and don’t believe that I exposed anyone to any increased risk whatsoever

    No, U.S, and Florida at that, technically I wouldn't even be allowed in there at the moment but I feel bad for my partner as he didn't know his birth family growing up and it would be his first time meeting many of them.


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    #1433
    Plumbthedepths
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    Seamai wrote: »
    I'm practically mahogany at this stage from all the sun we had in May and early June, several people have asked me if I managed to "sneak" away. It might not be great at the moment but many of of us were off work during really good weather, at least it was good here in Cork.
    I and all my colleagues were working away during the good weather, no sitting at home on our asses virtue signalling on Social Media.
    Cork is a nice place on a sunny day but like all of Ireland on a wet one.... absolutely miserable.


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    #1434
    Plumbthedepths
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    joseywhales wrote: »
    Who are these Karen's? Are they any relation of Mick and Paddy? Because the Mick's and Paddy's might be found in the bar at 4am.

    'Karen' is an American term to describe a 'self righteous gob****e'.


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    #1435
    MickeyLeari
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    Seamai wrote: »
    Some of us have lost our jobs and the future isn't looking too rosy. 2 weeks on some concrete costa wouldn't cut it for me, it's the least of my worries.

    And I am very sorry to hear that. Family are in the same position and I am fearful of the Economic and reputational damage of our indecisive, overly conservative and at the same time nonsensical (US is open.) approach is doing.

    As an aside 2 weeks on some concrete costa on searing heat is my idea of hell.


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    #1436
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I and all my colleagues were working away during the good weather, no sitting at home on our asses virtue signalling on Social Media.
    Cork is a nice place on a sunny day but like all of Ireland on a wet one.... absolutely miserable.

    So just because you were working and I wasn't (completely outside my control) your opinions carry more gravitas? Very mature. If anything I detect a hint of resentment in your post towards anyone who was out of work.


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    #1437
    Plumbthedepths
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    Seamai wrote: »
    So just because you were working and I wasn't (completely outside my control) your opinions carry more gravitas? Very mature. If anything I detect a hit of resentment in your post towards anyone who was out of work.

    Not at all, but it smacks slightly of arrogance to me that you boast of the nice colour you got but suggest to those that worked throughout that they should suck it up and wait until you and others deem it safe for them to travel for whatever reason they wish.


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    #1438
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Not at all, but it smacks slightly of arrogance to me that you boast of the nice colour you got but suggest to those that worked throughout that they should suck it up and wait until you are others seem it safe for them to travel for whatever reason they wish.

    I wasn't being arrogant at all, I had little else to do, we're lucky enough to have a good size garden so I spent a lot of time out there tending fruit and vegetables and going for walks and looking after an elderly parent who was cocooning and that was pretty much it. What irks me though is that I have seen quite a few comments here dismissing anyone who was not working as "sitting on their asses" like I said , I had no choice in the matter, I'm 55 and have never been out of work a day in my life til now.


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    #1439
    facehugger99
    Registered Users Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Seamai wrote: »
    Some of us have lost our jobs and the future isn't looking too rosy. 2 weeks on some concrete costa wouldn't cut it for me, it's the least of my worries.

    Luckily there's no requirement for you to go anywhere.

    I have no problem if people don't want to travel, it's the campaign of finger-wagging, fear-mongering and guilt-tripping against those that do, that annoys me.


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    #1440
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Luckily there's no requirement for you to go anywhere.

    I have no problem if people don't want to travel, it's the campaign of finger-wagging, fear-mongering and guilt-tripping against those that do, that annoys me.

    All I was saying was that a holiday abroad is pretty far down my list of priorities at this point in time, I wasn't indulging in any of the activities you've mentioned, you read my comments incorrectly.


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    #1441
    acequion
    Registered Users Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭acequion


    smurfjed wrote: »
    you are the only one who can decide which is more important for your family, couple weeks in Spain or your daughters education.

    That is exactly the type of emotional blackmail and scaremongering that is being targeted at ordinary people and it's nothing short of disgraceful.:mad:


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