Covid-19; Impact on the aviation industry

marno21

DUB-KIR and DUB-CFN to stay going

https://www.radiokerry.ie/stobart-air-maintain-kerry-dublin-flights/

Stobart to stop international flights on Saturday.

IngazZagni

sparrowcar wrote: »

Aviation "experts" singing a new song the last few days. Read last night that this could relaunch wide body business and the likes A380 and 747 will be in demand. For health screening reasons hub to hub flights will become popular and safer and hub to spoke or spoke to spoke will die out. Meaning the death of the max and 321LR etc.

Hub to hub with few slots means.... big planes.
All pure speculation but makes sense.

I dont really believe this. Perhaps needed for cargo initially but once passenger operations start they'll want the more efficient airplanes again.

Also the A321 Neo and 737 Max are primarily short to medium haul aircraft so it wont have a huge effect on those. Of course the recession and airline collapses will have a much bigger effect

sparrowcar

IngazZagni wrote: »

I dont really believe this. Perhaps needed for cargo initially but once passenger operations start they'll want the more efficient airplanes again.

Also the A321 Neo and 737 Max are primarily short to medium haul aircraft so it wont have a huge effect on those. Of course the recession and airline collapses will have a much bigger effect

You could be right. It's not my opinion, just something I read. None of us really have any idea what the next few months hold.

Tenger

sparrowcar wrote: »

Aviation "experts" singing a new song the last few days..................For health screening reasons hub to hub flights will become popular and safer and hub to spoke or spoke to spoke will die out. Meaning the death of the max and 321LR etc.

Hub to hub with few slots means.... big planes.
All pure speculation but makes sense.

Willie Walsh taking the opposite view that once the industry recovers we will see more point to point flying due to the lower risk for the airlines of such routes.


Remains to be seen of course

Sexual Chocolate

Qantas flight QF1 will be stopping at Darwin before proceeding onto Heathrow from tomorrow onwards due to restrictions at Singapore.

Would this make this the longest A380 flight or does the Auckland - Dubai still hold that record ?

Wtf ?

Gael23 wrote: »

There are lots of Irish in Australia worried their visas will run out before they can leave

That will be overlooked considering the circumstances.

brettmirl

Ryanair grounding their flights till May, except for repatriation & cargo/medical flights

https://twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1242376531508432897

IngazZagni

I assume they still plan to operate a small number of flights. For example Dublin to the UK. At least they are still selling tickets for the UK in April at a vastly reduced frequency.

Nijmegen

IngazZagni wrote: »

I assume they still plan to operate a small number of flights. For example Dublin to the UK. At least they are still selling tickets for the UK in April at a vastly reduced frequency.

That is pretty much what they've said. The air bridge between UK & Ireland is a vital service even just for cargo and mail.

PinOnTheRight

Nijmegen wrote: »

That is pretty much what they've said. The air bridge between UK & Ireland is a vital service even just for cargo and mail.

IngazZagni wrote: »

I assume they still plan to operate a small number of flights. For example Dublin to the UK. At least they are still selling tickets for the UK in April at a vastly reduced frequency.

They are also planning to operate short flights to keep the aircraft airworthy and crew current - first two examples this morning doing a flight around Manchester and back in.

Chris_5339762

Wtf ? wrote: »

That will be overlooked considering the circumstances.

You'd hope so, but when it comes to Australia and VISAs, you're just not quite 100%. They can be merciless.

Sexual Chocolate

Was just reading on Facebook and taking it with a pinch of salt but in regards to repatriation flights from OZ for Irish people it's looking like the Irish Australian Chamber of Commerce and Department of Foreign Affairs is working with Qatar Airways to gauge the number of people looking to return home.

Gael23

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Was just reading on Facebook and taking it with a pinch of salt but in regards to repatriation flights from OZ for Irish people it's looking like the Irish Australian Chamber of Commerce and Department of Foreign Affairs is working with Qatar Airways to gauge the number of people looking to return home.

We might just see an A380 in Dublin one day!

Sexual Chocolate

Gael23 wrote: »

We might just see an A380 in Dublin one day!

I reckon if it does happen it probably a few 777s or A350s.

Nijmegen

Or shove them onto the flight to London and transfer from there, given the air bridge to LHR will remain open.

All that fandango

Have a friend who works in NOC, apparently they were told they are to be temporarily laid off for 6 weeks from next monday. How realistic is that timeframe? Seems a bit soon.

sparrowcar

All that fandango wrote: »

Have a friend who works in NOC, apparently they were told they are to be temporarily laid off for 6 weeks from next monday. How realistic is that timeframe? Seems a bit soon.

Absolutely nobody knows.. we are in very unknown territory

d51984

Are British Airways bringing the Irish back from Peru? If so would it be to London via BA then back to Dublin via EI? Cant see EI doing it on their own metal since there is British citizens to be brought home aswell.

Foggy43

I guess we find find out tomorrow. G-YMMN a B777-200 (BAW9110) is on it's way to Peru at the moment. There are reported 400 Brits stranded there so I would think there was or will be another repatriation flight.

goingnowhere

Ryanair are ceasing ops
Aer Lingus are pulling back to a skeleton service to certain key cities and to shift freight on behalf of the Irish government
No PSO routes

Won't be any commercial traffic so it could shutdown Knock and leave it as uncontrolled

Deatr

goingnowhere wrote: »

Ryanair are ceasing ops
Aer Lingus are pulling back to a skeleton service to certain key cities and to shift freight on behalf of the Irish government
No PSO routes

Won't be any commercial traffic so it could shutdown Knock and leave it as uncontrolled

PSO Routes are still continuing with Stobart as far as I know. Unless that’s changed in the past 24 hours.

goingnowhere

Knock doesn't have any PSO routes?

LXFlyer

goingnowhere wrote: »

Knock doesn't have any PSO routes?

In post #503 you just said no PSO routes (the only ones are Dublin - Kerry and Dublin - Carrickfinn) without any reference to Knock, implying that those two route were going to stop.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say and it appears I’m not alone - post 503 might need an edit? :-)

Sheep Shagger

goingnowhere wrote: »

Ryanair are ceasing ops
Aer Lingus are pulling back to a skeleton service to certain key cities and to shift freight on behalf of the Irish government
No PSO routes

Won't be any commercial traffic so it could shutdown Knock and leave it as uncontrolled

Very limited UK-IE flights next week and beyond, albeit a much reduced Ryanair schedule (2 flights a day). Can still be booked online while other flights cancelled.

Deatr

goingnowhere wrote: »

Knock doesn't have any PSO routes?

Yes I know that. As already pointed out DUB-KIR and DUB-CFN are the only PSO routes. Knock was cancelled years ago. So not sure what you mean, sorry!

JohnC.

Trump says they will not allow Boeing to fail. Being who he is, you can probably take half this with a pinch of salt (like giving stock to the people), but the quote is

We’re not letting Boeing go out of business. You have to help them temporarily. It’s not going to be a long time, temporarily.

And they’re going to pay interest and they’re probably going to give stock in their company to the people of our country, to the taxpayers of our country, to the citizens of our country.

Nijmegen

JohnC. wrote: »

Trump says they will not allow Boeing to fail. Being who he is, you can probably take half this with a pinch of salt (like giving stock to the people), but the quote is

If it transpired that Boeing executives were hacking into the MAX from the ground and sadistically flying them into the ground to watch the terrified expressions of all onboard, the US government would still bail them out. Boeings existing troubles before this were dragging US economic growth by a half a percentage point. That's massive for just one company let alone getting into the strategic capabilities Boeing provides their defence industry and the plain old prestige factor.

Boeing will never be allowed to fail.

Sheep Shagger

4 pax on a flight from Singapore to Auckland...

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/travel/2020/03/air-new-zealand-flight-from-singapore-to-auckland-has-just-four-passengers-onboard.html

Cookiemunster

Foggy43 wrote: »

I guess we find find out tomorrow. G-YMMN a B777-200 (BAW9110) is on it's way to Peru at the moment. There are reported 400 Brits stranded there so I would think there was or will be another repatriation flight.

2 more BA 777s currently enroute to Lima to repatriate stranded citizens. Along with a LOT 787 and a TAP A330.

Two British Airways aircraft and one TAP Air Portugal aircraft are en route to Lima in Peru in order to evacuate European citizens

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1244302335641296897?s=19

Sexual Chocolate

Qantas retires its remaining 747s earlier than planned this weekend due to Covid 19.

https://www.ifn.news/posts/qantas-retires-boeing-747-fleet/