Corona Virus & cycling impact (see mode note post 1322)

Thud

flatface wrote: »

People are missing the point of optics.
Of course a solo cycle on deserted roads is safe but that’s not the point.

There are people out there not getting the social distancing at all and think they can carry on. Empty streets send a signal that it’s social unacceptable and enforces social obedience. We must all play our part by sacrificing cycling so that others will stay at home.

Another angle, i live on a deserted road in Wicklow that normally has a high volume of cyclists passing, cyclists coming up from the city or other areas is another vector for spreading the virus.
Just stay home until its over, the hills will still be here.

Unknown Soldier

2016 wrote: »

So, we all know we can cycle outdoors for exercise purposes within 2km of home. That is very clear.

Definitely I believe we should all do this.

So, now we need to define "brief" exercise as it applies to cycling.

I'm saying <1 hr, how about the rest of you?

Seeing an hour long cycle on Strava or whatever would not bother me, as long as it stays in the 2 KM zone and was minimising any dangers E.G Hill repeats/estate/park loops. There are plenty of runners doing long runs in my general area.

You have to make sure you wash your wheels down before bring the bike back into the house. Lots of people out there spitting on the ground, now on the roads too.

IMO This lock-down is to battle two things, CoViD-19 and stupidity.

A lot of people and business just didn't get it. Now a lot of them seem to understand. I had to go into work yesterday and most places were closed, furniture shops and the likes. About time too.

The lock-down is for the lowest common denominator. Without it you can be sure the Piers and beaches would have been thronged this weekend. I live near the hell fire club and it was a sh1tshow on St Patrick's Day.

I'd say more people will be in A&E over the next few weeks from DIY injuries than cycling too. Just use common sense, keep it safe and short, oh and touch nothing when you are outside, gates or barriers in parks, traffic light buttons even!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugtN6HCqatc

velo.2010

at1withmyself wrote: »

On a slightly lighter note for anyone on swift - Dan is doing a ride today to raise awareness:

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/dan-martin-leads-virtual-ride-to-deliver-masks-to-medical-personnel/

Ham said. "I pledge that for everyone that will take part in those rides – we will deliver masks to hospitals."

Maybe, just deliver the masks.

Tenzor07

Well, looks like the Gards are pulling cyclists off the road... Wonder if they will do the same for Motorbikers?

Wishbone Ash

keane2097 wrote: »

Didn't know I could get Sunday in Hell on YouTube - thanks for that!

It been on it for years.

Another one - The Stars and the Water Carriers ('73 Giro)

The Greatest Show on Earth ('74 Giro)

Harrybelafonte

I personally don't think the "our business helped out in this crisis" type marketing is going to work as a PR tool.

1. There's so many companies doing it now that (a) you company's efforts will be lost in the noise and (b) it's simply becoming the norm.
2. Companies are at the point where they're just expected to do it in the first place and efforts to promote the "good deed" are being met with more and more cynicism.

Take O'Neills (the sports clothing manufacturers), 750 staff "temporarily" laid off in a blink, so no redundancy pay, etc. Then they get back 150 to make items for the NHS after being approached by Western Health Trust, not for free though, they're still charging. However, it's being sold to the public as their effort to "fight the disease".

From Irish Times (10/12/19): Shareholder funds totalled £10.7 million and its cash pile increased from £993,748 to £4.8 million.

There's a load of it going on.

rolling boh

I would think it's the optics of some cyclists in their lycra that will stand out even if they are just cycling within a stretch of their home less than 2 km . If you were on an old bike with casual clothes and high vis vest cycling slow enough just to get a little exercise you would get by ok but stick very local if you go out .

Wishbone Ash

I always leave my work ID at work so it might be an issue if I'm stopped tomorrow morning. I suppose they can contact my employer to confirm if required.

Rechuchote

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Well, looks like the Gards are pulling cyclists off the road... Wonder if they will do the same for Motorbikers?

Friend who cycles to work in hospital told me she saw cops stopping cars.

Eamonnator

halvis wrote: »

If cycling is your passion, then there is still many things you can do cycling related without getting on the bike that you may not often get time for:

- Read about different forms of cycling: MTBing, touring, Randonneuring, Ultra Distance etc and see if you want to build them into your skillset when we get back on the road
- Service your bike. Many of us can get better at this, l see loads of people that can't even fix a puncture. Get good at this, you might need to even go back to fixing inner tubes soon using patches!! OMG!:eek:
- Read about different cycling techniques: pedal stoke, breathing, positions - internet is full of the stuff
- Get the map out and plan some routes, hilly i.e. 1 in 1000 elevation, picturesque routes and share them
- Watch GCN or some other cycling vblog, hundreds of them or old stylie blog
- Watch classic cycling movies, i.e. A Sunday in Hell
- Read classic cycling books: Slaying the Badger
- Look at Bike Porn: but don't Google 'Bike Porn', I mean just look a pictures of beautiful bikes
- Plan upgrades of your components (we know everyone loves doing this) or plan your n+1

Anyway, the idea is broaden your knowledge of cycling in whatever way you want, its a free pass.

But don't be a cycling d*ck and go out on your bike and don't ride red lights either EVA!

What about American Flyers?

Tenzor07

Rechuchote wrote: »

Friend who cycles to work in hospital told me she saw cops stopping cars.

True yea, though the comments under those picture I posted attracted some very bitter anti-cyclist comments, when for all they know the cyclists stopped could have been healthcare workers or people who work in tesco, lidl etc..

cornet

Seen plenty of 30km and even 70km rides on Strava within the “2km zone”. Appalling that the guidance of a brief 30min physical exercise is being abused into 2 hour spins. Healthcare staff working around the clock but a few Freds still need their fix.

bazermc

Whatever about cycling, the meatheads must be climbing the walls with gyms closed.

saccades

As an essential worker can I commute to work on my bike?

It's a bit long but about this time of the year I do it once a week (I have it in Strava to prove it).

Tenzor07

saccades wrote: »

As an essential worker can I commute to work on my bike?

It's a bit long but about this time of the year I do it once a week (I have it in Strava to prove it).

So long as you have your ID which shows that you work in one of the listed essential jobs then you're all clear...

halvis

Eamonnator wrote: »

What about American Flyers?

Doesn't get more of a classic than that ;-) !! Everyone might come back wearing cowboy hats instead of helmets tho.

There was only the trailer on YouTube the last time I looked, but seems it's their in bits now - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdR9zVLPD1minnR0Nf70G3FOQI1UnWILN

MiskyBoyy

Only bought a Wahoo Kickr Core a few weeks ago. Timing couldn't have been better...:pac:

keane2097

cornet wrote: »

Seen plenty of 30km and even 70km rides on Strava within the “2km zone”. Appalling that the guidance of a brief 30min physical exercise is being abused into 2 hour spins. Healthcare staff working around the clock but a few Freds still need their fix.

Where was 30 mins stated?

cornet

keane2097 wrote: »

Where was 30 mins stated?

Leo’s speech on Friday night and the letter from the CMO. 2km was based on 30min walk/run.

billybonkers

cornet wrote: »

Leo’s speech on Friday night and the letter from the CMO. 2km was based on 30min walk/run.

They didn't say 30 minutes

cornet

CI should cancel insurance unless for commuting purposes only. Similar to what GAA did in relation to training.

cornet

billybonkers wrote: »

They didn't say 30 minutes

Yes they did. Coveney tweeted the letter https://twitter.com/simoncoveney/status/1243679920024420353?s=21

Harrybelafonte

bazermc wrote: »

Whatever about cycling, the meatheads must be climbing the walls with gyms closed.

Myself and my fellow meat heads are doing fine thank you. My gym allowed us to take kettle bells, dumbbells, rowers, assault bikes, skiergs, bikeergs, resistance bands and anything else we wanted home. Then he set up online coaching sessions on Zoom and records and edits a daily workout for us. He’s probably spending 12 hours a day between written content, video editing and actual classes.

But y’know. D’oh, meat heads.

LollipopJimmy

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Myself and my fellow meat heads are doing fine thank you. My gym allowed us to take kettle bells, dumbbells, rowers, assault bikes, skiergs, bikeergs, resistance bands and anything else we wanted home. Then he set up online coaching sessions on Zoom and records and edits a daily workout for us. He’s probably spending 12 hours a day between written content, video editing and actual classes.

But y’know. D’oh, meat heads.

I'm a member of a well known MMA gym which have been an amazing support with workouts to do at home too.

deconduo

cornet wrote: »

Yes they did. Coveney tweeted the letter https://twitter.com/simoncoveney/status/1243679920024420353?s=21

That letter also only says to stay within 2km/30min of distance. It doesn't say don't excercise for more than 30min.

Kaisr Sose

Augustine Defeated Tramp wrote: »

Shocker......... cyclists being selfish and expecting to be treated differently to everyone else.

Why is anyone surprised by this???

Please, some cyclists... This is not a time for the anti cyclist rhetoric.I do notice that some motorists are still speeding, running red lights ..., etc.

smacl

cornet wrote: »

Yes they did. Coveney tweeted the letter https://twitter.com/simoncoveney/status/1243679920024420353?s=21

Reading the text of that letter it seems to be the distance you would cover in half an hour rather than the duration of time away from your house, but it does say brief individual physical exercise which amounts to the same thing. Personally I'll be sticking with the turbo and the occasional short local loop just for head space.

smacl

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Myself and my fellow meat heads are doing fine thank you. My gym allowed us to take kettle bells, dumbbells, rowers, assault bikes, skiergs, bikeergs, resistance bands and anything else we wanted home.

Dusted off the kettlebells today for the first time in quite a while. Damn things seem to have put on even more weight than I have in the interim. Used to through them around like paper-weights a few years back.

Ryath

Not on you tube so can't embed.
https://www.facebook.com/theindiancyclist/videos/220028112571165/?eid=ARADaiHSyBDJ8CvlnEhdFXoxwBMM1vlzB3HB-vLEcjOxXSrySYlksLMa5A_qNi_OiLc0VQ6jbZeQ5rtG

Kaisr Sose

a148pro wrote: »

That's low Kaisr. Forums are non transferrable. You should get involved in contact tracing. Plus lets be honest, cycling is nice an all, but its hardly skiing now is it? What was it that Shankly said?

I can't comment on the Austrian situation, just the situation here, where cycling isn't banned its just limited to 2k. That just doesn't seem to make sense to me.

I also think Anton is different in that there was a highly concentrated outbreak there and Ischgl, it seems.

I want to stop the carnage, and have done everything I can. Like I said neither I nor my family have had any elective social contact with anyone since the schools closed, and that was way above what was asked of us in terms of recommendations. I know we're not unique in that. But my point is I have no problem in doing everything I can to stop the virus spreading and have done and will do so.

My problem for this debate is I can't see the connection between the activities concerned and the spread of the virus.

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There is nothing low at all about it, or not against any rules. I just called you out for being totally inconsistent and being unnessecarily argumentative on the point of cycling during these Public Health Restrictions.

Nobody is penalising you personally, and yes there may have been things that could have been done differently a few weeks ago. However, its a very fast moving situation, and perfect it wont be.

For what its worth, i think the Government and HSE are doing really well, and deserve the support and cooperation of every citizen in beating this virus. Somehow, you just need to get over not being able to cycle the same way we all have to. The days for cycling will return.