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Fianna Fail - Republican Party Joke?

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  • 28-02-2020 1:38pm
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    LuasSimon
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    Just see a FF candidate in local paper thanking people for voting but see Republican Party message on his FF background.
    Considering the leader Michael Martins view of not talking to Nationalists and hatred of republicans is it not time that FF ditched the republican party line ??...There are people like Eamon O Cuiv who would be of a nationalist outlook but many Fianna Failers have evolved into Charlie Flanagan pro British Fine Gaeler types after years of reading the Sunday Independent and watching RTE ...
    Under Michael Martin or Jim O Callaghan for that matter FF are more likely to agree to rejoining the United Kingdom than looking for a United Ireland!


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    ELM327
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    Oh look it's this thread again


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    irishgrover
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    1, You can be a republican without supporting the recent armed struggle
    2. You can be republican without supporting criminal behaviour
    3. You can be republican without having links to a once terrorist and now mostly just criminal organisation
    4. You can be a republican without supporting Sinn Fein.
    5. Your last point on FF being more likely to support rejoining the UK over a UI is just a little bit silly in fairness.


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    JohnnyFlash
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    irishgrover wrote: »
    1, You can be a republican without supporting the recent armed struggle
    2. You can be republican without supporting criminal behaviour
    3. You can be republican without having links to a once terrorist and now mostly just criminal organisation
    4. You can be a republican without supporting Sinn Fein.
    5. Your last point on FF being more likely to support rejoining the UK over a UI is just a little bit silly in fairness.

    You could question if being the political wing of a terrorist organisation who murdered people in the Republic of Ireland makes you a Republican at all.


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    irishgrover
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    You could question if being the political wing of a terrorist organisation who murdered people in the Republic of Ireland makes you a Republican at all.

    tags and flags tend to be very territorial with extremists or any nature.
    The way SF use the term republican and the way they use the Irish flag is just another manifestation of this.


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    James Brown
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    You could question if being the political wing of a terrorist organisation who murdered people in the Republic of Ireland makes you a Republican at all.

    Times change so does the dynamics, Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have moved on, get over it. Mind FG still idolise Collins, which is okay. He's the acceptable terrorist what use to kill people.

    ***************

    FF and FG TD's flirt with the idea of pining for a united Ireland. Generally when heading for the hills.
    FF do what they do best, if being Republican got them votes they'd reinstate the tag Fianna Fail 'the republican party' that they removed a number of years ago.
    As stated and should be obvious, no party owns the idea of a UI and no party owns republicanism or nationalism.


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    LuasSimon
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    I'm sure the men of 1916 would be disappointed to put it mildly if they returned to see over a hundred years later we still hadn't achieved a United Ireland.....only selfish gits saying we're grand and forgetting about other Irish people still living under British rule ...


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    LuasSimon
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    Bowie wrote: »
    Times change so does the dynamics, Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have moved on, get over it. Mind FG still idolise Collins, which is okay. He's the acceptable terrorist what use to kill people.

    ***************

    FF and FG TD's flirt with the idea of pining for a united Ireland. Generally when heading for the hills.
    FF do what they do best, if being Republican got them votes they'd reinstate the tag Fianna Fail 'the republican party' that they removed a number of years ago.
    As stated and should be obvious, no party owns the idea of a UI and no party owns republicanism or nationalism.

    The people of Cork-Tipperary etc had no problem killing people including civilians when the British were down south so cant see the difference with the people of Armagh and Tyrone doing it when they still live under British rule ??


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    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    LuasSimon wrote: »
    The people of Cork-Tipperary etc had no problem killing people including civilians when the British were down south so cant see the difference with the people of Armagh and Tyrone doing it when they still live under British rule ??

    That's my point. FF and FG have their feet up warming by the fire. They wouldn't be in any rush to upset their apple cart pushing for a UI.
    Agree or disagree people at both periods believed in a cause and did what they did. FF/FG hooered their way to 'respectability' aside from all the ongoing white collar 'inappropriate behaviour' of course.


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