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    #62
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,915 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    my bike has over 80,000 (miles) on it original clutch zero wear issues or problems or lack of grip.

    i would use neutral at lights maybe every 50 lights stops where its an extra long wait. so rarely.


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    #63
    H_Lime
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    #64
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,706 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    IrishGrimReaper wrote: »
    I always thought the rear brake 'method' served two purposes, engaging the rear brake light so cars approaching you from behind will more likely be alert that you're actually stopped since the light is brighter.

    Having both front and rear brakes activate the brake light has been a requirement for over 30 years now. My first bike only showed a brake light with the rear brake.

    I did my test in 1996, and staying in gear when stopped was a requirement. Its a nonsense. Also had to ride as if there were no mirrors or indicators, which was even more of a nonsense.

    I did the RoSPA test 3 years later, always used neutral when stopped and it was never commented upon, and the roadcraft book is much more about objectives rather than techniques if you get me. Not having either brake engaged when stopped would be a no-no, though.

    Holding the clutch in causes more wear on the release bearing, and is a PITA if your clutch action is at all heavy. There's no practical need for or benefit to doing it.

    Going into and out of neutral when the bike is stationary and idling doesn't cause wear to the clutch plates as no power is being transmitted.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #65
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,915 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Having both front and rear brakes activate the brake light has been a requirement for over 30 years now. My first bike only showed a brake light with the rear brake.

    I did my test in 1996, and staying in gear when stopped was a requirement. Its a nonsense. Also had to ride as if there were no mirrors or indicators, which was even more of a nonsense.

    I did the RoSPA test 3 years later, always used neutral when stopped and it was never commented upon, and the roadcraft book is much more about objectives rather than techniques if you get me. Not having either brake engaged when stopped would be a no-no, though.

    Holding the clutch in causes more wear on the release bearing, and is a PITA if your clutch action is at all heavy. There's no practical need for or benefit to doing it.

    Going into and out of neutral when the bike is stationary and idling doesn't cause wear to the clutch plates as no power is being transmitted.


    This is like the horns all over again, stop flogging it, the horse is dying in the ditch.

    If holding in the clutch causes where over the lifetime of your bike id suggest not buying the bike off amazon daily deals.


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    #66
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    I did the RoSPA test 3 years later, always used neutral when stopped and it was never commented upon, and the roadcraft book is much more about objectives rather than techniques if you get me. Not having either brake engaged when stopped would be a no-no, though.

    I'm a long qualified RoSPA too, but the 'driving' test alone has it's own foibles, not all of which I agree with btw (on either 2 or 4 wheels). But it is what it is, to pass it.

    Btw, on the subject of heavy clutch action, had a kit fitted to my H-D not long ago that reduced effort by 40%. Should have done it 10 years ago..... :rolleyes:

    I was even thinking about fitting one of these: Rekluse automatic clutch kits. Popular off road in the US too.

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    #67
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,706 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    listermint wrote: »
    This is like the horns all over again, stop flogging it, the horse is dying in the ditch.

    If holding in the clutch causes where over the lifetime of your bike id suggest not buying the bike off amazon daily deals.

    Whatever. The clutch is designed to be held in for seconds at a time, not minutes. It may well withstand such use but it's not the intended method of use. Mechanical sympathy...

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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