'Shock Poll' Sinn Fein now on 35%

Bishop of hope

dark crystal wrote: »

She posted that at home with her kids who have been told to self isolate after there was a case of corona virus at their school.

Not pretty enough for you? Should she have laquered on the slap to make her message more appealing?

Will this affect her public appearances now, too?

STB.

dark crystal wrote: »

It appears so!

It has previously been debunked that no one wants to speak to Sinn Fein. The poster was merely asking for proof of this claim, seeing as you made it in the first place.

It hasn't been debunked. FF and FG have continuously both pre and post election given commitments that they would have no dealings whatsoever in the formation of government with SF.

Leaving aside the vast gulf in policies, two are centre right parties, the other very much left wing. There is a reason that SF took to the hotels post election. They knew they had nowhere else to go as the democratically elected others wanted nothing to do with them.

There is only one show in town and SF will not be part of it.

And if you do not grasp this, you shouldn't be posting on political fora.

tipptom wrote: »

Yes,a fuc*ing link,to back up your statement that nobody wants to go in with SF.

Read the newspapers, if political history is an issue for you.

dark crystal

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Will this affect her public appearances now, too?

Yes, she's said she is after cancelling two public meetings on foot of medical advice.

Fann Linn

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Would the SF supporters here be happy if FG and FF reversed their decision and decided to go into power with SF?

Would that be satisfactory?

Just curious.

I'd be happy with FF so long as O'Broin got housing

Bishop of hope

dark crystal wrote: »

Yes, she's said she is after cancelling two public meetings on foot of medical advice.

Hadn't heard, playing catchup.

Suckit

STB. wrote: »

It hasn't been debunked. FF and FG have continuously both pre and post election given commitments that they have no dealings whatsover in the formation of government.

Leaving aside the vast gulf in policies, two are centre right parties, the other very much left wing. There is a reason that SF took to the hotels post election. They knew they had nowhere else to go as the democratically elected others wanted nothing to do with them.

There is only one show in town and SF will not be part of it.

And if you do not grasp this, you shouldn't be posting on political fora.

Oh... So FF and FG are EVERYONE..



Fair enough.. :rolleyes:

dark crystal

STB. wrote: »

It hasn't been debunked. FF and FG have continuously both pre and post election given commitments that they have no dealings whatsover in the formation of government.

Leaving aside the vast gulf in policies, two are centre right parties, the other very much left wing. There is a reason that SF took to the hotels post election. They knew they had nowhere else to go as the democratically elected others wanted nothing to do with them.

There is only one show in town and SF will not be part of it.

And if you do not grasp this, you shouldn't be posting on political fora.



Read the newspapers, if political history is an issue for you.

No, silly, everyone knows FFG's poition on talking to Sinn Fein!

I'm talking about all the other parties/independents. Besides Labour, who won't talk to anyone at all, who else has specifically ruled out talking to Sinn Fein?

Take your time. I'll be reading a newspaper while I wait

Bards

Fann Linn wrote: »

I'd be happy with FF so long as O'Broin got housing

Yep, sure didn't Bertie say FF were a socialist party so would be a perfect fit with SF, at least SF can keep FF honest

STB.

Suckit wrote: »

Oh... So FF and FG are EVERYONE..

Fair enough.. :rolleyes:

Everyone that can form a government, YES. (And it was NOBODY not EVERYONE)

Maths are clearly not your strong point, so I wont ask you to "add it" to your inability to google commitments given pre and post election.

dark crystal wrote: »

No, silly, everyone knows FFG's poition on talking to Sinn Fein!

I'm talking about all the other parties/independents. Besides Labour, who won't talk to anyone at all, who else has specifically ruled out talking to Sinn Fein?

Take your time. I'll be reading a newspaper while I wait

Clearly you are incapable of reading the context of responses here. We are talking about the formation of a government. When you are finishing reading The Daily Star, do at least acknowledge that we are now on the same page.

tipptom

STB. wrote: »

It hasn't been debunked. FF and FG have continuously both pre and post election given commitments that they would have no dealings whatsoever in the formation of government with SF.

Leaving aside the vast gulf in policies, two are centre right parties, the other very much left wing. There is a reason that SF took to the hotels post election. They knew they had nowhere else to go as the democratically elected others wanted nothing to do with them.

There is only one show in town and SF will not be part of it.

And if you do not grasp this, you shouldn't be posting on political fora.



Read the newspapers, if political history is an issue for you.

So I take it after all that irrelevant ramblings and avoiding the question that you cannot back up your assertion with a link that "nobody wants to go in with SF".

Im sure that the Independent,Irish Times etc have creamed themselves over this and splashed it all over the place,just click on the first link there and stick it up,good man.

dark crystal

STB. wrote: »

Clearly you are incapable of reading the context of responses here. We are talking about the formation of a government. When you are finishing reading The Daily Star, do at least acknowledge that we are now on the same page.

Oh, the context! Sorry, I tend to take sentences literally - especially from political giants such as yourself.

Never mind, I won't tell anyone you were wrong this one time

RandomName2

dark crystal wrote: »

She posted that at home with her kids who have been told to self isolate after there was a case of corona virus at their school.

Not pretty enough for you? Should she have laquered on the slap to make her message more appealing?

Should Fianna Fail or Fine Gael play rebel songs so people who might support them feel more free to publicize their support for those parties, without being afraid of censure online? Would that make them cool enough?

Jinglejangle69

Fann Linn wrote: »

I'd be happy with FF so long as O'Broin got housing

Thanks.

pjohnson

RandomName2 wrote: »

Not only less cool, they don't have a Helen of Troy figure like Mary Lou,

Nice to see FFG Acolytes as classy as ever :pac:

Fann Linn

Bards wrote: »

Yep, sure didn't Bertie say FF were a socialist party so would be a perfect fit with SF, at least SF can keep FF honest

And I'm sure that only for MM boxed himself into a corner prior to and during the election there probably would be a FF/SF govt now.

STB.

tipptom wrote: »

So I take it after all that irrelevant ramblings and avoiding the question that you cannot back up your assertion with a link that "nobody wants to go in with SF".

Im sure that the Independent,Irish Times etc have creamed themselves over this and splashed it all over the place,just click on the first link there and stick it up,good man.

Are we really at the stage now that Sinn Fein followers are in denial about where they stand ????


Irish general election: Fianna Fáil rules out Sinn Féin talks

Sinn Féin criticises 'disgraceful' Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael

dark crystal wrote: »

Oh, the context! Sorry, I tend to take sentences literally - especially from political giants such as yourself.

Never mind, I won't tell anyone you were wrong this one time

Yes the context of what this thread is about the formation of a government and not the nonsense you have been posting.

Tell me how SF have the numbers to go into government if the two biggest centre right parties want nothing to do with them, Einstein.

Bishop of hope

RandomName2 wrote: »

Should Fianna Fail or Fine Gael play rebel songs so people who might support them feel more free to publicize their support for those parties, without being afraid of censure online? Would that make them cool enough?

There's not too many of us haven clapped hands and joined in a rebel song or two.
The Wolfe tones got a new lease of life thanks to Charlie Flannigan.
"Come out you Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man"

tipptom

STB. wrote: »

Are we really at the stage now that Sinn Fein followers are in denial about where they stand ????


Irish general election: Fianna Fáil rules out Sinn Féin talks

Sinn Féin criticises 'disgraceful' Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael

Are you okay,no need to shout,just answer the very simple question to back up your statement that "NO ONE will go in with SF".

RandomName2

pjohnson wrote: »

Nice to see FFG Acolytes as classy as ever :pac:

Nice to see the usual Sinn Fein fanboys being fast to the keyboards to defend their queen.

FF and FG are **** parties by the way.

Bishop of hope wrote: »

There's not too many of us haven clapped hands and joined in a rebel song or two.
The Wolfe tones got a new lease of life thanks to Charlie Flannigan.
"Come out you Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man"

The Black and Tans are dead and gone, but there are some that like to pretend that they are keeping the spirit of 1916 alive, winking at the camera while shouting 'up the ra' when they think the coast is clear.

Sure he was only having a loaf of bread on his head. Just a loaf of Kingsmill. What's the big deal. Wink wink.

pjohnson

RandomName2 wrote: »

Nice to see the usual Sinn Fein fanboys being fast to the keyboards to defend their party.

FF and FG are **** parties by the way.

"Sinn Fein fanboy"


Not necessarily. Just find it hilarious how the FFG heads just keep doubling down on trying to discredit SF even though it keeps failing and only helping SF. Yet they are too deluded to realise and try a different tack.


Thats the funny part the doubling down of how out of touch they are.

tipptom

RandomName2 wrote: »

Nice to see the usual Sinn Fein fanboys being fast to the keyboards to defend their queen.

FF and FG are **** parties by the way.

Did it make you feel manly putting up a that picture to make fun of her?

RandomName2

tipptom wrote: »

Did it make you feel manly putting up a that picture to make fun of her?

No, I was just sharing her most recent statement that she released to the media. I completely agree with what she was saying about the coronavirus, and to be honest, she is really speaking for the nation. Wink wink.

dark crystal

STB. wrote: »

Yes the context of what this thread is about the formation of a government and not the nonsense you have been posting.

Tell me how SF have the numbers to go into government if the two biggest centre right parties want nothing to do with them, Einstein.

Now, now...we've all been proven wrong once or twice in our lives. No need to be so defensive!

We've now established quite firmly that your claim that NOBODY wants to talk to Sinn Fein has been debunked. Let's not move the goalposts in a feeble attempt to keep yourself from digging an even bigger hole for yourself.

Now, if you can provide a link that proves SPBP, SDs, independents etc. have ruled out talking to Sinn Fein, I'm sure I'd be happy to bend to your clearly superior political knowledge.

You claimed NOBODY would speak to Sinn Fein. That's the context. It's not rocket science.

pjohnson

tipptom wrote: »

Did it make you feel manly putting up a that picture to make fun of her?

Poor lad must not have any female in his life if he is shocked they arent runway ready 24/7.

STB.

tipptom wrote: »

Are you okay,no need to shout,just answer the very simple question to back up your statement that "NO ONE will go in with SF".

I'm fine Tom. I'm surprised I had to answer the question for you. Surely you knew all this.

RandomName2

pjohnson wrote: »

Poor lad must not have any female in his life if he is shocked they arent runway ready 24/7.

Sinn Fein fanboys use ad hominem attacks all the time, and are somehow surprised when the same can be done to them.

I've never put much stock in attacking people because of the way they look. Trump has bad hair and small hands. Who cares? It's his principles that smell of sh*t. Mary Lou is no poster child for the revolution, but to be honest I find her apology for terrorism more off-putting than her physical appearance .

If I look at a reply by any of the Sinn Fein fanboys I bet I can easily find them say that any dissenting voice is rambling, ranting, obsessed, or a mouthpiece of FFFG (or should that be FFFGGP now that the Greens are being described as 'Fine Gael but on bikes').

Don't forget to say 'old-boys' somewhere about FF or FG. Bonus points if you can say 'mansplain' or something else painfully cringeworthy.

dark crystal

STB. wrote: »

Are you a bit simple ?


Clearly the context of this discuccion is bout the formation of a government. Infact the only discussion around talking to SF is around forming a government. Your previous responses to me clearly indicate you understand the context of the conversation, so don't play the gobdaw.

TWO insults implying I'm stupid this time! Tut tut. Haven't heard the word Gobdaw in quite some time

Still no links backing up your earlier assertion, though I see.

Never mind, it's hard admitting you're wrong. I won't embarrass you any further, Mr. Context.

McMurphy

STB. wrote: »

Are you a bit simple or what ?

Clearly the context of this discussion is bout the formation of a government. Infact the only discussion around talking to SF is around forming a government. Your previous responses to me clearly indicate you understand the context of the conversation, so don't play the gobdaw.

It is just as well that IQ arent required to vote !

TBF you did make a statement in which you put an emphasis on "NOBODY" in regards wanted to talk to SF.

If you meant FFG won't talk to them, you probably would have been better correcting yourself and moved on.

You also (in fairness to you) acknowledged that the strategy being deployed by them (FFG) will most probably do them a lot of harm in the long run, indeed if they do go in as coalition partners, and shag all gets sorted out as regards housing or health, I don't think it would be an exaggeration or over the top estimation to predict one of the two being wiped out next time out, or being forced to merge as one party (which many of us believe they are anyway)

So to recap, a large swathe of people out there voted for a change to a FFG govt, FFG are certainly doing themselves no favours by refusing to recognise that wish.

Yeah ok, the numbers are fairly split down the middle for the 3 of them, so if they want to cling to their pre election promises about not speaking with the shinners - fine, so either enter coalition together making the shinners main opposition party, or else be fcuked with it and call another election and see if the numbers differ in the next one.

I don't see Michaél or Leo, who both were roundly defeated in the vote counts in comparison with the Sinn Fein competitors being too keen on that option either though.

Something's gotta give though.

dark crystal

STB. wrote: »

It is just as well that IQ arent required to vote !

Lol, I missed the third insult!

The sentence should read " It is just as well that a high I.Q. isn't required in order to vote".

Everyone has an I.Q! The insult doesn't make any sense in that CONTEXT.

Bless.

RandomName2

McMurphy wrote: »

So to recap, a large swathe of people out there voted for a change to a FFG govt, FFG are certainly doing themselves no favours by refusing to recognise that wish.

Damn, Sinn Fein fanboy, I should learn from you.

Somewhere in your rambling you say there should be a change from either FF or FG being in government.

However you readily admit that there cannot be a government without FF or FG.

You seem a bit addled. Maybe you need some fresh air. Or perhaps the cable from Sinn Fein got garbled and you mistyped.