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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Mod Note - No 'Dublin Dominance' chat allowed!

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    #2552
    Strumms
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Just be thankful McCarthy still has legs under him, but that won't last much longer, the mileage that lads clocked up is fierce.

    Just gone 31, had no injuries hardly, no serious injuries, looks after himself on and off the pitch...I see him prior to covid as we are members of the same health / sports facility and he is seriously diligent as regards his fitness and health, fûcker still looks about 27..

    He’s a flexible talent too, can as we’ve seen recently can drop into the backs where he started out and where I’d say he’ll finish his career...

    Played an awful lot of football alright but in this sport there is really plenty of downtime between fixtures and competitions... so I can see him playing regularly for another 4 years, starting regularly too.


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    #2553
    What.Now
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    Strumms wrote: »
    Just gone 31, had no injuries hardly, no serious injuries, looks after himself on and off the pitch...I see him prior to covid as we are members of the same health / sports facility and he is seriously diligent as regards his fitness and health, fûcker still looks about 27..

    He’s a flexible talent too, can as we’ve seen recently can drop into the backs where he started out and where I’d say he’ll finish his career...

    Played an awful lot of football alright but in this sport there is really plenty of downtime between fixtures and competitions... so I can see him playing regularly for another 4 years, starting regularly too.

    Don't think there is downtime at all. After intercounty they are straight into club. If they get 4 weeks in December they are lucky.


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    #2554
    Strumms
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    What.Now wrote: »
    Don't think there is downtime at all. After intercounty they are straight into club. If they get 4 weeks in December they are lucky.

    prob more like three weeks but I’m sure if he needed an extra couple he could avail of a greater rest.


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    #2555
    blanch152
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    Strumms wrote: »
    Just gone 31, had no injuries hardly, no serious injuries, looks after himself on and off the pitch...I see him prior to covid as we are members of the same health / sports facility and he is seriously diligent as regards his fitness and health, fûcker still looks about 27..

    He’s a flexible talent too, can as we’ve seen recently can drop into the backs where he started out and where I’d say he’ll finish his career...

    Played an awful lot of football alright but in this sport there is really plenty of downtime between fixtures and competitions... so I can see him playing regularly for another 4 years, starting regularly too.

    Agree, can see him even ending up as a solid full-back still playing in four or five years time.


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    #2556
    blanch152
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    hunter164 wrote: »
    Paddy Small isn’t good enough imo. Way too reliable on the left foot.

    Agreed here, Mannion is a big loss and the step down to Paddy is too much. That isn't to criticise him too much - Paddy would walk into any other team in Leinster, and to most in the rest of the country too, it is just that Mannion is a far better player.

    I do worry that the lads coming up are not as good. We will still win All-Irelands, just not every year. Fenton, Kilkenny, Rock and O'Callaghan are the leading lights of this team once Cluxton is gone, and we need new leaders at the back.


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    #2557
    flasher0030
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    hunter164 wrote: »
    Paddy Small isn’t good enough imo. Way too reliable on the left foot.

    That's a bit of a lazy comment. This notion of the citeog being somehow weakened because he doesn't kick with the right foot. Surely, it's the same for most right footed kickers. How many times do we see Con O'Callaghan or Ciaran Kilkenny kicking with the left peg. Or Brian Fenton or James McCarthy. Seldom to never.


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    #2558
    Sultan of Bling
    Registered Users Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    flasher0030 wrote:
    That's a bit of a lazy comment. This notion of the citeog being somehow weakened because he doesn't kick with the right foot. Surely, it's the same for most right footed kickers. How many times do we see Con O'Callaghan or Ciaran Kilkenny kicking with the left peg. Or Brian Fenton or James McCarthy. Seldom to never.


    He's only 20.

    Plenty of development still to go.

    Any word on his brother? Looked like a bad one with the hamstring.


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    #2559
    bucketybuck
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    Sultan of Bling wrote: »
    He's only 20.

    Plenty of development still to go.

    He's a bit older isn't he? 22 or 23?

    I can't quite wrap my head around somebody saying a player would walk onto any other team in the country, but in the same breath saying it is a problem for Dublin that they are playing him? Sounds like one of those good problems really.


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    #2560
    newuser99999
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    Sultan of Bling wrote: »
    He's only 20.

    Plenty of development still to go.

    Any word on his brother? Looked like a bad one with the hamstring.

    He’s 23 at least lol. He’s doing a masters in college this year.


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    #2561
    gormdubhgorm
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    Sultan of Bling wrote: »
    He's only 20.

    Plenty of development still to go.

    Any word on his brother? Looked like a bad one with the hamstring.

    And there I was thinking that most people would think Paddy Small was one of the brighter sparks for Dublin. All that raw power. When he gets more experience/cuteness he will be very hard to handle for any opponent.

    I did not here any news on the older brother yet. John Small reminds me of that Keith Barr type player real warrior. Great fellas to have in a team.

    Jayus when I think if it the two Small brothers must have had great battles growing up. No quarter given.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #2562
    dobman88
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    Sultan of Bling wrote: »
    He's only 20.

    Plenty of development still to go.

    Any word on his brother? Looked like a bad one with the hamstring.

    I still cant believe the ref gave a free for a lad pulling up. One of the most puzzling decisions I've ever seen.


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    #2563
    DDC1990
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    dobman88 wrote:
    I still cant believe the ref gave a free for a lad pulling up. One of the most puzzling decisions I've ever seen.


    He hopped the ball didn't he? Haven't watched it back but I think he did anyway.


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    #2564
    dobman88
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    DDC1990 wrote: »
    He hopped the ball didn't he? Haven't watched it back but I think he did anyway.

    Ah maybe he did. But even so. Still baffling how he blew up. I'm not gonna argue every decision cos over the course of the season I think good and bad balance out but that one just makes no sense whatsoever.


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    #2565
    dobman88
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    DDC1990 wrote: »
    He hopped the ball didn't he? Haven't watched it back but I think he did anyway.

    Yep. You're right. He threw it up, Dublin won a free from that which led directly to the ball played into Con for the penalty. I knew there was a reason that particular one stuck out. Shocking call from the ref tbf.


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    #2566
    gourcuff
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    away days can be tough, luckily dublin play the championship at home.. :)


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    #2567
    dobman88
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    gourcuff wrote: »
    away days can be tough, luckily dublin play the championship at home.. :)

    When did that happen? Is it cos of the pandemic they're back in Parnell Park? Makes sense I spose.

    Must say, I was actually gutted about this game with current circumstances. I was too young for boozing in Thurles 2001 and I can only imagine the craic would have been 90 on the train from Heuston with my Kerry jersey surrounded by Dubs lol.


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    #2568
    gormdubhgorm
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Must say, I was actually gutted about this game with current circumstances. I was too young for boozing in Thurles 2001 and I can only imagine the craic would have been 90 on the train from Heuston with my Kerry jersey surrounded by Dubs lol.

    There was a great novelty to it altogether. Trains were jammed. I can't remember and major hassle at it. Usual good natured stuff. Fellas on the train sharing cans etc.
    The Dubs don't get to travel down the sticks enough, can make a weekend of it.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #2569
    gourcuff
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    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    There was a great novelty to it altogether. Trains were jammed. I can't remember and major hassle at it. Usual good natured stuff. Fellas on the train sharing cans etc.
    The Dubs don't get to travel down the sticks enough, can make a weekend of it.

    Its true, very rare. the kerrys and mayos are up in the hood fairly regularly so not much novelty to it and pubs around croker are fairly grim


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    #2570
    DDC1990
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    dobman88 wrote:
    Yep. You're right. He threw it up, Dublin won a free from that which led directly to the ball played into Con for the penalty. I knew there was a reason that particular one stuck out. Shocking call from the ref tbf.


    To be fair I never mind a referee stopping play for a serious injury. The player is exposed on the ground and can't get out of the way which puts him in danger of further injury.

    From a Kerry point of view it was unfortunate that it lead to the 4th goal but we could have prevented it by not fouling after the hop ball either.


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    #2571
    Jaden
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    gourcuff wrote: »
    Its true, very rare. the kerrys and mayos are up in the hood fairly regularly so not much novelty to it and pubs around croker are fairly grim

    They travel from Ranelagh/Rathmines in their thousands.


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    #2572
    BonnieSituation
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    When did that happen? Is it cos of the pandemic they're back in Parnell Park? Makes sense I spose.

    Must say, I was actually gutted about this game with current circumstances. I was too young for boozing in Thurles 2001 and I can only imagine the craic would have been 90 on the train from Heuston with my Kerry jersey surrounded by Dubs lol.

    Wait? You've been in Dublin that long? Sure you're more a Dub than a Long Grass Dweller.


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    #2573
    dobman88
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    gourcuff wrote: »
    Its true, very rare. the kerrys and mayos are up in the hood fairly regularly so not much novelty to it and pubs around croker are fairly grim

    Brannigans on Cathedral St is our spot for games in Croke park. Walk in there the day of a game is like walking into the local at home. Even went there with the missus one night for a pre show drink and yer man asked where I was from with the accent, usually just say Killarney but told him the actual place I'm from and he said oh I know ye well, thanks for calling, that crowd always call here for games.

    The Brian Boru now at the top of Whitworth road is handy then for waiting for the bus to come while having a couple of handy pints after.


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    #2574
    dobman88
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    Wait? You've been in Dublin that long? Sure you're more a Dub than a Long Grass Dweller.

    No, not at all. Only 5 years. Meant the craic would have been great had we not been in a pandemic to get the train down.


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    #2575
    Sultan of Bling
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    bucketybuck wrote:
    He's a bit older isn't he? 22 or 23?

    You're right, he is.

    Still time for him.

    When you lose someone of the quality of mannion, it is a massive loss to any forward line, even Dublin's.


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    #2576
    rolling boh
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    No parnell passes likely to issued this year hopefully back up and running next season no surprise really even if a small crowd gets in later in the year .


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    #2577
    BonnieSituation
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    Hoping former STs are in the queue for these test events.


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    #2578
    gormdubhgorm
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    Sultan of Bling wrote: »
    When you lose someone of the quality of mannion, it is a massive loss to any forward line, even Dublin's.

    I am not sure Mannion is loss really. I seem to remember giving out that he seemed to have lost form. How he deserved to be dropped others better replacements etc. Then wondering if I was unfair on him because he had such high standards for a period of time before he dipped dramatically. Maybe it is just grumpy I am!?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #2579
    Billy Mays
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    Think you're being unfair myself. He's a huge loss. Granted he wasn't great last year but 3 all stars in the previous 3 years tells you all you need to know about his quality. Plenty of other top players have the odd quiet year here and there.

    His ability to win back ball at crucial times in defence was massive for us aswell


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    #2580
    How Soon Is Now
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    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Think you're being unfair myself. He's a huge loss. Granted he wasn't great last year but 3 all stars in the previous 3 years tells you all you need to know about his quality. Plenty of other top players have the odd quiet year here and there.

    His ability to win back ball at crucial times in defence was massive for us aswell

    Mannions general play in the 5 in a row season, in particular, was brilliant. Some of the scores he kicked were on a different planet at times ha. It's as if he was kicking them over with his eyes closed.

    Looking at how we struggled for large parts to kick and take our points on Sunday against Kerry im hoping it's just early-season rust and not a sign of things to come!

    Where normally calm about how we play but Sunday took the piss.


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    #2581
    flasher0030
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    How Soon Is Now wrote: »
    Mannions general play in the 5 in a row season, in particular, was brilliant. Some of the scores he kicked were on a different planet at times ha. It's as if he was kicking them over with his eyes closed.

    Looking at how we struggled for large parts to kick and take our points on Sunday against Kerry im hoping it's just early-season rust and not a sign of things to come!

    Where normally calm about how we play but Sunday took the piss.

    I especially remember Mannion scored a few wonder points against Mayo in the 2019 semi-final - the match where Dublin blitzed Mayo in the first 10 miutes of the second half. Mannion was bombing them over from out near the sideline.
    He's a big loss. Paddy Small has lovely skills, but he hasn't the clinical finish of Paul Mannion, especially in a close encounter where is tighly marked by a corner back who is every bit as strong and fast as Paddy.


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