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    #572
    [Deleted User]
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    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    The amount of people who are going to protest about the way Tommy has been treated once again by the police will be very apparent on 2nd April.

    Still can't get into any form of an elected office, can he? Generally those protests he get tend to mixture of people looking for a fight and people off on their weekly diatribe.


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    #573
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Still can't get into any form of an elected office, can he? Generally those protests he get tend to mixture of people looking for a fight and people off on their weekly diatribe.

    People I met on last March were just normal working people. However I feel that on 2nd April they will also be joined by parents who are DISGUSTED by the way Tommy has been treated by police and corrupt media when his young 8 year year old daughter was accosted by a filthy bastard.


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    #574
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    People I met on last March were just normal working people. However I feel that on 2nd April they will also be joined by parents who are DISGUSTED by the way Tommy has been treated by police and corrupt media when his young 8 year year old daughter was accosted by a filthy bastard.

    The loony left forget everything they know about police and media corruption, when their world-view requires them to do so.

    It's an integrity thing.

    They don't have it.


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    #575
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    The loony left forget everything they know about police and media corruption, when their world-view requires them to do so.

    It's an integrity thing.

    They don't have it.

    If integrity means sucker punching a man from behind or making racist comments while coked off my tits like SYL then yeah, I have no integrity;)


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    #576
    pinkyeye
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    He's such an angry man, it can not be healthy.

    I hate to think about the poor child in all this living with that level of anger 24/7.

    There must be a constant tension in their house.


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    #577
    Tired Gardener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Tired Gardener


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    Political multiculturalism is a failure, has been officially acknowledged to be a failure.

    Officially acknowledged? Really... care to cite your sources on that?

    Because that is quite the claim you have just made there.

    Edit: also when you say officially acknowledged, who do you mean? What level of government has made this statement? Which world government? It does raise a lot of questions.


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    #578
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Tired Gardener wrote: »
    Officially acknowledged? Really... care to cite your sources on that?

    Because that is quite the claim you have just made there.

    You'll be waiting a while.


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    #579
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    If integrity means sucker punching a man from behind or making racist comments while coked off my tits like SYL then yeah, I have no integrity;)

    So what ?


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    #580
    Snake Plisken
    Registered Users Posts: 12,571 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    If integrity means sucker punching a man from behind or making racist comments while coked off my tits like SYL then yeah, I have no integrity;)

    A bit like your integrity where you said you didn't mind Tommy being physically attacked! You little hypocrite!


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    #581
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Tired Gardener wrote: »
    Officially acknowledged? Really... care to cite your sources on that?

    Because that is quite the claim you have just made there.


    No problem. My sources are a German Chancellor quoted in The Guardian, and a British PM, quoted on the BBC.


    1.Angela Merkel

    Angela Merkel: German multiculturalism has 'utterly failed'
    She said the onus was on immigrants to do more to integrate into German society.

    "This [multicultural] approach has failed, utterly failed," Merkel told the meeting in Potsdam, west of Berlin, yesterday.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed


    2. David Cameron

    State multiculturalism has failed, says David Cameron
    David Cameron has criticised "state multiculturalism" in his first speech as prime minister on radicalisation and the causes of terrorism.

    At a security conference in Munich, he argued the UK needed a stronger national identity to prevent people turning to all kinds of extremism.
    "Frankly, we need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and much more active, muscular liberalism," the prime minister said.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-12371994


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    #582
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    A bit like your integrity where you said you didn't mind Tommy being physically attacked! You little hypocrite!

    It's not ME slapping him so it's not my "integrity" at question.

    If.someone chooses to attack/assault him.for no reason then I would think they were as scummy as SYL.


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    #583
    Tired Gardener
    Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Tired Gardener


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    No problem. My sources are a German Chancellor quoted in The Guardian, and a British PM, quoted on the BBC.


    1.Angela Merkel

    Angela Merkel: German multiculturalism has 'utterly failed'



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed


    2. David Cameron

    State multiculturalism has failed, says David Cameron





    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-12371994


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    Interesting.

    A few points... both the links are from news articles published 9 years ago. That doesn't make the quotes invalid, however it does allow for them to be taken out of context through the passage of time.

    Both were from prominent politicians from countries that had a then recent spate of homegrown terrorist attacks. This is important as there will be a lot of knee jerk reaction, and pandering to certain groups within their own political parties... 5 years after David Cameron said this we had saw Brexit unfold. Which is the Tory party pandering to the more far right wing members within its ranks. Also extremism is a tough beast to tackle, and it would seem from reading the articles, that they were aiming the thrust of their argument against extremism caused by those who fail to integrate into western society.

    Also, talking about David Cameron. I personally wouldn't trust a word that came out of his mouth. If he told me the sky was blue, I would have to look out the window just to check for myself. I'm not too familiar with Angela Merkel's track record for lying, so I can't comment on that.

    However, it is interesting that they would say that, and they are/were at the time officials. That being said I would err on the side of what they said being taken out of context.


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    #584
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    str8talkingguy wrote: »
    Theres benefits for people like alastair,who probably has immigrants slaving in his shops for not much more than the dole and living in his houses,for the best part of their weekly wage to keep his properties rented,while he spends all day here posting on boards defending the status quo.

    That’s some journey of imagination you’ve taken there! 😂


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    #585
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Tasfasdf wrote: »
    I have to say the lefties here reply quicker than amazon support. Its actually weirdly funny.

    Who do you class as the "lefties"?


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    #586
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    He's such an angry man, it can not be healthy.

    I hate to think about the poor child in all this living with that level of anger 24/7.

    There must be a constant tension in their house.

    What a horrific thing to say. Tommy Robinson is an amazing person and also a good and caring father.


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    #587
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    What a horrific thing to say. Tommy Robinson is an amazing person and also a good and caring father.

    SYL is a proven racist scumbag.


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    #588
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Tired Gardener wrote: »
    Interesting.

    A few points... both the links are from news articles published 9 years ago. That doesn't make the quotes invalid, however it does allow for them to be taken out of context through the passage of time.

    That's only a possibility. On the other hand, the quotes could straightforwardly be perfectly valid, then and now.
    Both were from prominent politicians from countries that had a then recent spate of homegrown terrorist attacks. This is important as there will be a lot of knee jerk reaction, and pandering to certain groups within their own political parties...

    Of course. But in reality, not everyone who believes that political multiculturalism is toxic is a faction of a political party, prone to being courted by opportunistic leaders.

    It's a valid point of view, and for all I know Cameron actually subscribes to it, regardless of his ulterior motives.

    So I don't think that everything can be explained away by political expediency.

    Apart from that - I note that Merkel, according to the article, was speaking to a meeting of 'young members' of her party. Quite a different demographic to the Tory far-right.
    5 years after David Cameron said this we had saw Brexit unfold. Which is the Tory party pandering to the more far right wing members within its ranks.

    Brexit, in fact, is democracy. In other words, the right wing of the Tory party does not make up 52% of the British electorate.
    Also extremism is a tough beast to tackle, and it would seem from reading the articles, that they were aiming the thrust of their argument against extremism caused by those who fail to integrate into western society.

    'Fail to integrate' because no requirement to integrate was assumed. It ought to be, always. The sensible approach of 'When in Rome, do as the Romans do' was abandoned in favour of a rotten project.
    Also, talking about David Cameron. I personally wouldn't trust a word that came out of his mouth. If he told me the sky was blue, I would have to look out the window just to check for myself. I'm not too familiar with Angela Merkel's track record for lying, so I can't comment on that.

    She's a politician too. Enough said.
    However, it is interesting that they would say that, and they are/were at the time officials. That being said I would err on the side of what they said being taken out of context.

    Whereas I would not let them off the hook like that.


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    #589
    UrbanYeacher
    Site Banned Posts: 3 ✭UrbanYeacher


    Exposed the grooming gangs throughout the UK. If it wasn’t for him god knows how many more children would have suffered.


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    #590
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,516 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    UrbanYeacher wrote: »
    Exposed the grooming gangs throughout the UK. If it wasn’t for him god knows how many more children would have suffered.

    No he didn't


    It was actually a Muslum who did that, SYL just jumped on the bandwagon after it was exposed so he could make £££ from gullible gobshìtes.

    So far it seems to have worked out quite well for him.


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    #591
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    No he didn't


    It was actually a Muslum who did that, SYL just jumped on the bandwagon after it was exposed so he could make £££ from gullible gobshìtes.

    So far it seems to have worked out quite well for him.

    Name ?


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    #592
    PyreOfHellfire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭PyreOfHellfire


    Great entertainment this thread is. The right wingers who claim that racism is just a figment of our collective imaginations are quite temperamental when their hero scumbag turns out to be his usual scumbag self. A beautiful read watching the usual suspects cling onto their victim mentality as if it's the only part of their online persona worth remembering. Quite sad but entertaining all the same.


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    #593
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    PyreOfHellfire wrote: »
    Great entertainment this thread is. The right wingers who claim that racism is just a figment of our collective imaginations are quite temperamental when their hero scumbag turns out to be his usual scumbag self. A beautiful read watching the usual suspects cling onto their victim mentality as if it's the only part of their online persona worth remembering. Quite sad but entertaining all the same.

    You re-reg'd for that ?

    Load of Pyrrhoea.

    :D


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    #594
    PyreOfHellfire
    Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭PyreOfHellfire


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    You re-reg'd for that ?

    Load of Pyrrhoea.

    :D

    Account was created 2 months before this thread was created. Critical thinking isn't really a strong suit of yours is it?


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    #595
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    UrbanYeacher wrote: »
    Exposed the grooming gangs throughout the UK. If it wasn’t for him god knows how many more children would have suffered.

    Thanks to the likes of Tommy and paedophile hunters groups alot of innocent children have been saved.


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    #596
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    What a horrific thing to say. Tommy Robinson is an amazing person and also a good and caring father.


    By using his child so he can beg for money?


    It's only slightly more sophisticated than a tinker woman with a babby and you're falling for it.


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    #597
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    This remains as appropriate now as it did then:
    https://newsthump.com/2018/11/13/number-of-paedophiles-exposed-by-tommy-robinson-remains-steady-at-zero/


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    #598
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    By using his child so he can beg for money?


    It's only slightly more sophisticated than a tinker woman with a babby and you're falling for it.

    Hes a good father who is protecting his child. Hes hardly begging for money either. He has no need to.


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    #599
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    PyreOfHellfire wrote: »
    Great entertainment this thread is. The right wingers who claim that racism is just a figment of our collective imaginations are quite temperamental when their hero scumbag turns out to be his usual scumbag self. A beautiful read watching the usual suspects .

    Who on here has claimed racism is a figment of your imagination?

    The usual suspects? You're on boards a wet weekend!


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    #600
    Boggles
    Registered Users Posts: 39,970 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    donkeykong5 wrote: »
    Hes a good father who is protecting his child. Hes hardly begging for money either. He has no need to.

    Sorry are you talking about Stephen?

    Daddy of the Decade all right. Missed a large part of the childs life because he was in prison for fraud.

    :)


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    #601
    Tasfasdf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Tasfasdf


    Boggles wrote: »
    Sorry are you talking about Stephen?

    Daddy of the Decade all right. Missed a large part of the childs life because he was in prison for fraud.

    :)

    So did Nelson Mandela and I'm sure you have him in high regard.


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