Tommy Robinson

Gynoid · 03-03-2020 3:20pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yawn.

No it isn’t. I wouldn’t believe it happened just because someone made an accusation. Would you? Honestly?

And yet usually you are such a White Knight.

suicide_circus · 03-03-2020 3:20pm

MakingMovies2 wrote: »

Knowing Tommy it was probably him that did the groping. Hope the scummer gets 5 years for this, fingers crossed.

ah come on outta dat, boi

v638sg7k1a92bx · 03-03-2020 3:23pm

seamus wrote: »

What a coincidence that a well-known attention-seeking nutjob happened to catch someone in the act of molesting his daughter and was all set up to record his subsequent confrontation with the police.

It couldn't be that...he's a lying dirtbag? Could it? ��

Just like a lot of “victims” these days

El_Duderino 09 · 03-03-2020 3:24pm

Gynoid wrote: »

And yet usually you are such a White Knight.

Yeah if not believing an accusation based solely on an accusation, makes me a white knight, then fine.

Do you believe all the accusations or are you a white knight, like me, who doesn’t believe anything with that little evidence?

v638sg7k1a92bx · 03-03-2020 3:26pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

You have no idea whether anyone was molested. You have an accusation of molestation. You have video evidence of SYL causing a disturbance and shouting at the officers.

And with nothing but an accusation you’re willing to say it probably happened. Do you usually find yourself in the #ibelieveher camp?

I thought we were “believing all victims“ these days???

How do you think it makes other victims of sexual assault feel about coming forward with comments like those.

seamus · 03-03-2020 3:31pm

I feel very sorry for his daughter in this.

Rather than have her father treat her sensitively after coming to him with a genuine concern, he instead decided to record a conversation with her retelling the incident, then edit and upload that recording to his personal media vehicle for the whole world to see, for profit. Not to vindicate her, but to make him money.

Then he went off on one chasing down and assaulting the guy she accused, as a personal vendetta. This wasn't a spur of the moment decision, he didn't see red and lose the rag. He had plenty of time to consider this course of action, after calmly sitting his daughter down to record the accusation.

Then rather than put his hands up and speak to the police like a rational adult, "Yeah, fair guv, I did, but let me tell you what's happened", he arranged someone to film him having a good old rant on camera, screaming about how badly oppressed he's being, so that it could once again be uploaded to the world, for likes and profit to his own media vehicle.

No consideration for his daughter in this, at all. He's a pure narcissist.

This is the TR playbook. Get caught acting like a scumbag, start ranting about immigrants and paedos. The Gemmaroid does it too.

And their drones lap it up.

El_Duderino 09 · 03-03-2020 3:33pm

Kristina Brief Rip-off wrote: »

I thought we were “believing all victims“ these days???

How do you think it makes other victims of sexual assault feel about coming forward with comments like those.

You might believe all victims. I don’t believe anything unless there’s enough evidence to conclude one way or the other.

Penn · 03-03-2020 3:34pm

I believe the girl. I don't think SYL is enough of a prick that he'd subject his daughter to making things like this up which could potentially result in her being questioned by police. For my money, she's telling the truth.

But the fact that SYL and his family or whoever he was with a) videoed his daughter telling him, b) videoed him arguing with the police and c) put out his video explaining the situation to his followers is just disgusting imo.

El_Duderino 09 · 03-03-2020 3:36pm

Penn wrote: »

I believe the girl. I don't think SYL is enough of a prick that he'd subject his daughter to making things like this up which could potentially result in her being questioned by police. For my money, she's telling the truth.

But the fact that SYL and his family or whoever he was with a) videoed his daughter telling him, b) videoed him arguing with the police and c) put out his video explaining the situation to his followers is just disgusting imo.

You don’t have a clue what exactly the daughter said or if it’s true. Neither do I. Only one of us is being honest about what we do and do not know.

If bc she made a credible accusation, then it should be investigated.

Tasfasdf · 03-03-2020 3:38pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

You might believe all victims. I don’t believe anything unless there’s enough evidence to conclude one way or the other.

So if a rape victim cant prove they were raped its a lie, disgusting

WrenBoy · 03-03-2020 3:41pm

Strange to have this recorded and shared to be sure but on the other hand Im aware Robinson has had a contentious past with the media and police in the UK. I'm guessing in his mind recording it and releasing it would be a way of documenting evidence and making sure its not "brushed under the carpet" as well as stopping media from spinning the info.
I don't know but I wouldn't be dismissing the child's claim because of the views of her father like a lot of ye here.

seamus · 03-03-2020 3:54pm

"Contentious past with media and police" is a polite way of saying that he's been in jail for a number of violent crimes and frauds, has physically threatened journalists, harrassed many, many organisations and been caught out fabricating stories about immigrants.

MOR316 · 03-03-2020 3:55pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yawn.

No it isn’t. I wouldn’t believe it happened just because someone made an accusation. Would you? Honestly?

People do and have believed any kind of accusation.

Not me personally but, many do.

MOR316 · 03-03-2020 3:56pm

Tasfasdf wrote: »

So if a rape victim cant prove they were raped its a lie, disgusting

And what if it is a lie?

It's been known, people have lied in the past

Not everything people say is true. I know 4 people who have lied about it. That's horrendous on the people they have accused.

EDIT: For the record, I'm talking in general, not just this particular issue

El_Duderino 09 · 03-03-2020 3:59pm

Tasfasdf wrote: »

So if a rape victim cant prove they were raped its a lie, disgusting

Nope. You might take that approach. But I don’t.

I take the approach that I believe things only when/if there’s enough evidence to believe it. Otherwise I just accept that I don’t have enough evidence to conclude one way or the other.

Someone making an accusation isn’t enough evidence to conclude one way or another. And all we have is one person saying their daughter made an accusation. So there’s not enough evidence to conclude. Simple enough approach to beliefs.

What approach do you take?

WrenBoy · 03-03-2020 4:12pm

seamus wrote: »

"Contentious past with media and police" is a polite way of saying that he's been in jail for a number of violent crimes and frauds, has physically threatened journalists, harrassed many, many organisations and been caught out fabricating stories about immigrants.

The families of such people should still expect police protection without prejudice.

Penn · 03-03-2020 4:16pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

You don’t have a clue what exactly the daughter said or if it’s true. Neither do I. Only one of us is being honest about what we do and do not know.

If bc she made a credible accusation, then it should be investigated.

I agree that we don't know, and it should be investigated. I'm simply saying I don't believe the daughter would make it up of her own accord, nor do I believe SYL would try and coerce his daughter into making a false allegation as a publicity stunt, because that would be subjecting his own 8 year old to questioning by police etc.

So I believe the daughter, but a full investigation by the police if they feel her accusation is credible is warranted. But SYL's filming of the events is disgusting regardless imo. Maybe he recorded himself questioning his daughter so as to get her account on film while it was freshest in her mind. No need to release it publicly though. No need to release video of him arguing with the police. No need to make his own video showcasing these things.

He should have let the police deal with everything and co-operated fully with them once they came. Instead he's making a big public showing of his daughter's alleged assault to drum up his own support. That's disgusting imo.

Boggles · 03-03-2020 4:18pm

WrenBoy wrote: »

I'm guessing in his mind recording it and releasing it would be a way of documenting evidence and making sure its not "brushed under the carpet" as well as stopping media from spinning the info.

Nah, he is trying to make money off it.

I tried watching the video and first thing I was asked for was bitcoin.

Because apparently pay-pal booted him for being a racist criminal cúnt.

Given his long criminal history, including for violent assault if found guilty he is going back inside.

03-03-2020 4:21pm

WrenBoy wrote: »

Strange to have this recorded and shared to be sure but on the other hand Im aware Robinson has had a contentious past with the media and police in the UK. I'm guessing in his mind recording it and releasing it would be a way of documenting evidence and making sure its not "brushed under the carpet" as well as stopping media from spinning the info.
I don't know but I wouldn't be dismissing the child's claim because of the views of her father like a lot of ye here.

But t could prejudice any trial.

Was he after Justice or revenge?

R.F. · 03-03-2020 4:21pm

He is a scumbag of the highest order. One of the worst people you can think of. He spreads so much hate and influences a lot of weak minded people.

It is his own fault that many will be very dubious about this incident.

Billy Mays · 03-03-2020 4:26pm

R.F. wrote: »

He is a scumbag of the highest order. One of the worst people you can think of. He spreads so much hate and influences a lot of weak minded people.

It is his own fault that many will be very dubious about this incident.

He's a modern day Nelson Mandella m8 :rolleyes:

El_Duderino 09 · 03-03-2020 4:29pm

Penn wrote: »

I agree that we don't know, and it should be investigated. I'm simply saying I don't believe the daughter would make it up of her own accord, nor do I believe SYL would try and coerce his daughter into making a false allegation as a publicity stunt, because that would be subjecting his own 8 year old to questioning by police etc.

So I believe the daughter, but a full investigation by the police if they feel her accusation is credible is warranted.

Yes but those aren’t the only things that could have happened. For example, she could have been mistaken. She could have picked up on SYL’s predisposition seeing brown people as abusers. She could simple be trying to please her dad. He could have her scarred sh1tless about brown men being abusers.

There are way too many possibilities to simply believe what someone because they said something. When you’re dealing with an 8 year old child it’s absolutely essential to find out more before you believe anything.

We don’t even know that the child made an accusation. All WE have is SYL’s word that she made an accusation. It’s incredible that anyone believes anything he says without more evidence.

MakingMovies2 · 03-03-2020 4:31pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yes but those aren’t the only things that could have happened. For example, she could have been mistaken. She could have picked up on SYL’s predisposition seeing brown people as abusers. She could simple be trying to please her dad. He could have her scarred sh1tless about brown men being abusers.

There are way too many possibilities to simply believe what someone because they said something. When you’re dealing with an 8 year old child it’s absolutely essential to find out more before you believe anything.

He probably threatened to beat her if she didn't play along. Hopefully she's taken into custody after this, poor girl.

str8talkingguy · 03-03-2020 4:34pm

This will more than likely be a case of Tommys daughter getting no attention from him as hes busy out saving the world,she will have heard him no doubt talk endlessly about nonces and paedophiles and this is the only way she managed to get any attention from him and it worked.

Think Tommy should spend less time saving everyone elses daughters and give his own some attention.

Tasfasdf · 03-03-2020 4:35pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yes but those aren’t the only things that could have happened. For example, she could have been mistaken. She could have picked up on SYL’s predisposition seeing brown people as abusers. She could simple be trying to please her dad. He could have her scarred sh1tless about brown men being abusers.

There are way too many possibilities to simply believe what someone because they said something. When you’re dealing with an 8 year old child it’s absolutely essential to find out more before you believe anything.

This post reminds me of Diarrhoea.

R.F. · 03-03-2020 4:38pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

have picked up on SYL’s predisposition seeing brown people as abusers. She could simple be trying to please her dad. He could have her scarred sh1tless about brown men being abusers.

This is a very realistic theory. A young impressionable child growing up seeing hate and distrust of Asian people.

El_Duderino 09 · 03-03-2020 4:39pm

Tasfasdf wrote: »

This post reminds me of Diarrhoea.

Easier to say that than actually dispute anything I said.

Boggles · 03-03-2020 4:44pm

Penn wrote: »

I agree that we don't know, and it should be investigated. I'm simply saying I don't believe the daughter would make it up of her own accord, nor do I believe SYL would try and coerce his daughter into making a false allegation as a publicity stunt, because that would be subjecting his own 8 year old to questioning by police etc.

So I believe the daughter, but a full investigation by the police if they feel her accusation is credible is warranted. But SYL's filming of the events is disgusting regardless imo. Maybe he recorded himself questioning his daughter so as to get her account on film while it was freshest in her mind. No need to release it publicly though. No need to release video of him arguing with the police. No need to make his own video showcasing these things.

He should have let the police deal with everything and co-operated fully with them once they came. Instead he's making a big public showing of his daughter's alleged assault to drum up his own support. That's disgusting imo.

Stephen claims the man admitted to the police that he grabbed the young girls bum.

Do you believe the police as Stephen claims let him go on his way after admitting sexual assault of an 8 year old girl?

El_Duderino 09 · 03-03-2020 4:46pm

R.F. wrote: »

This is a very realistic theory. A young impressionable child growing up seeing hate and distrust of Asian people.

It’s just a likely possibility. Who knows what the child said or if she even said anything.

Tasfasdf · 03-03-2020 4:53pm

Boggles wrote: »

Stephen claims the man admitted to the police that he grabbed the young girls bum.

Do you believe the police as Stephen claims let him go on his way after admitting sexual assault of an 8 year old girl?

Ask the victims of rotherham.

Penn · 03-03-2020 4:58pm

Boggles wrote: »

Stephen claims the man admitted to the police that he grabbed the young girls bum.

Do you believe the police as Stephen claims let him go on his way after admitting sexual assault of an 8 year old girl?

I don't believe anything SYL says just as a general rule. The fact is all we have are SYL's videos and what he wanted released. Considering the police were involved, I think it should just be left to their investigation.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

It’s just a likely possibility. Who knows what the child said or if she even said anything.

In the video SYL posted (the long one with him talking to the camera), he posted a snippet of him questioning his daughter in (possibly) a changing room or something. I didn't get watching it all, just flicked through it. But his daughter at the very least is on video telling him about it (video didn't show her, it's pointing at the ceiling, but you can hear her voice).

Again, whether it's true or not (and I'm inclined to believe it is), it warrants investigation based on what the daughter is saying.

osarusan · 03-03-2020 4:58pm

"TR News"

Jaysus.

03-03-2020 5:03pm

Hmm strange thing is that posters who normally question anyone claiming that they were molested etc in any of the other threads on here are so quick to believe the word of SYL.

El_Duderino 09 · 03-03-2020 5:06pm

osarusan wrote: »

"TR News"

Jaysus.

I just found out it’s a real thing too. Someone mentioned it earlier and I thought it was a joke.

Call Me Jimmy · 03-03-2020 5:12pm

All these riff raff children accusing 'muzzie's' of rape because they were brought up in a racist environment.

and I thought I'd never understand the mentality of the UK social services and police.

If ye think he'd use his daughter to fake a sexual assault allegation you are just in toon-town. There's no hope for ye. And if it was a nameless 'lout' you'd be just the same.

I don't believe any facts that he presents, but if the man wasn't arrested then and there I would like to hear what precedent there is for that.

Boggles · 03-03-2020 5:17pm

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

If ye think he'd use his daughter to fake a rape allegation you are just in toon-town. There's no hope for ye. And if it was a nameless 'lout' you'd be just the same.

Relax, there was no one raped.

The police came, talked to everyone there apparently, including the young girl alone with her mother and independent witnesses.

Stephen was the only one arrested and charged.

He is now asking for bitcoin to tell his side of the story. :rolleyes:

The absolute cretin lives in fúcking toon-town.

Call Me Jimmy · 03-03-2020 5:24pm

Boggles wrote: »

Relax, there was no one raped.

The police came, talked to everyone there apparently, including the young girl alone with her mother and independent witnesses.

Stephen was the only one arrested and charged.

He is now asking for bitcoin to tell his side of the story. :rolleyes:

The absolute cretin lives in fúcking toon-town.

I am relaxed. You know the attitude was displayed in the thread and you know I know nobody was raped here. Is it standard for police to not arrest someone if there is an allegation of sexual assault?

suicide_circus · 03-03-2020 5:24pm

DubInMeath wrote: »

Hmm strange thing is that posters who normally question anyone claiming that they were molested etc in any of the other threads on here are so quick to believe the word of SYL.

also, the exact opposite

str8talkingguy · 03-03-2020 5:28pm

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I am relaxed. You know the attitude was displayed in the thread and you know I know nobody was raped here. Is it standard for police to not arrest someone if there is an allegation of sexual assault?

You want everyone that is accused of sexual assault arrested without any investigation?what a world its become where people even think thats how it could possibly work.

CinemaGuy45 · 03-03-2020 5:33pm

KiKi III wrote: »

Find it very hard to believe that the police would ignore a sexual assault on a child.

No doubt the place has CCTV, should be fairly straightforward to clear up.

They let Pakistani Muslim rape gangs operate for many years covered it up and branded anybody who mentioned it a racist.

The UK Government will not release the report into it saying it is not in the public interest.

Why would you find it hard to believe?

Having said that I think Tommy Robinson real name Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is a total ass hat.

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CinemaGuy45 · 03-03-2020 5:41pm

Billy Mays wrote: »

Amazing coincidence that an assault like this, commited in such a public place, just so happened to be carried out by an Asian man on Tommy Robinson's daughter

Those Japanese at it again.:P

Boggles · 03-03-2020 5:43pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

They let Pakistani Muslim rape gangs operate for many years covered it up and branded anybody who mentioned it a racist.

The UK Government will not release the report into it saying it is not in the public interest.

Which report?

CinemaGuy45 · 03-03-2020 5:52pm

Boggles wrote: »

Which report?

Grooming gang review kept secret as Home Office claims releasing findings ‘not in public interest’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grooming-gang-rotherham-review-home-office-findings-a9344896.html

MakingMovies2 · 03-03-2020 5:54pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/grooming-gang-rotherham-review-home-office-findings-a9344896.html

Brilliant, so we've resorted to dog whistles to defend yaxley Lennon have we?

Boggles · 03-03-2020 5:55pm

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I am relaxed. You know the attitude was displayed in the thread and you know I know nobody was raped here.

Then why say "rape allegation".

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Is it standard for police to not arrest someone if there is an allegation of sexual assault?

It is standard for the police to respond when called, they do a primary investigation like they did here.

Spoke to Eye Witnesses, spoke to they guy who got assaulted and spoke to the little girl alone with her mother and then based on that arrested Stephen and charged him with assault.

No one else has been arrested so far, whether they are actively investigating the sexual assault allegation, I couldn't tell you.

CinemaGuy45 · 03-03-2020 5:57pm

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Having said that I think Tommy Robinson real name Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon is a total ass hat.

Came into the thread posted a bit of fact now I am moving on just here for the virus thread everything else is a sideshow.;)

str8talkingguy · 03-03-2020 6:06pm

MakingMovies2 wrote: »

Brilliant, so we've resorted to dog whistles to defend yaxley Lennon have we?

He clearly wasn't defending him he was just pointing out there is a genuine issue there.

Its not much different to the North here and Sinn Fein people like Yaxley-Lennon and Sinn Fein find a genuine issue and capitalize on it to gain money and power.

MakingMovies2 · 03-03-2020 6:08pm

str8talkingguy wrote: »

He clearly wasn't defending him he was just pointing out there is a genuine issue there.

Its not much different to the North here and Sinn Fein people like Yaxley-Lennon and Sinn Fein find a genuine issue and capitalize on it to gain money and power.

But we're not discussing grooming gangs here, we're discussing yaxley Lennon being the filthy scummer that he is.

str8talkingguy · 03-03-2020 6:19pm

MakingMovies2 wrote: »

But we're not discussing grooming gangs here, we're discussing yaxley Lennon being the filthy scummer that he is.

I would say you would fight with yourself in an empty room lol,its clearly relevant to the discussion where Yaxley-Lennons daughter has just accused an Asian man of sexual assault.

MakingMovies2 · 03-03-2020 6:36pm

str8talkingguy wrote: »

I would say you would fight with yourself in an empty room lol,its clearly relevant to the discussion where Yaxley-Lennons daughter has just accused an Asian man of sexual assault.

If you believe any of that dog and pony show for a second I've a bridge to sell you. The guys a sleazy conman and it's hard to believe the apple fell far from the tree.

Tommy Robinson

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