Why is there a lack of media coverage of the Redress:Breaking the Silence Documentary

stockshares

Why is there a lack of media coverage of the Redress:Breaking the Silence Documentary on Rte 1.

Are Journalists sticking up for their Political backers.

It's shocking that Bertie Aherns Government indemnified the Religious orders from Prosecution and capped the amount of compensation they had to pay and never ensured that the Orders paid this compensation.

Lack of coverage in most Online newspapers and very little on Twitter about it.

Floppybits

I seen that on Twitter and was wondering why I couldn't find anything on it. Wasn't Michael Martin part of the government at that time?

stockshares

Floppybits wrote: »

I seen that on Twitter and was wondering why I couldn't find anything on it. Wasn't Michael Martin part of the government at that time?

Yes he was.Mary Hanaffin too. Michael Woods also. Brian Cowen etc detc

Here's the cast of the 1999 gov
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_28th_D%C3%A1il

Other Govs before and after.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_cabinets_since_1919

This is shocking. The ways the state are covering up what happened in the Religious orders, Mother and Baby Homes and both Legal and Illegal Adoptions.
https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2019/0503/1047282-10-ways-institutional-abuse-details-are-still-being-kept-secret/

TheValeyard

To be fair, most of the country is rightly focused on the worldwide spread of the corona virus. Not saying this does not deserve attention. But their are some real big world wide problems going on right now that may directly effect this country and its people.

Quantum Erasure

Flicked past it last night on TV, thought it was a repeat...

stockshares

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Flicked past it last night on TV, thought it was a repeat...

No, original Doc was called States of Fear. Think it came out in late 90s and led to Inquiries.

stockshares

TheValeyard wrote: »

To be fair, most of the country is rightly focused on the worldwide spread of the corona virus. Not saying this does not deserve attention. But their are some real big world wide problems going on right now that may directly effect this country and its people.

That's understandable but I don't think William and Kates visit is that important.

stockshares

Btw the 2nd episode is on tonight.

Acosta

TheValeyard wrote: »

To be fair, most of the country is rightly focused on the worldwide spread of the corona virus. Not saying this does not deserve attention. But their are some real big world wide problems going on right now that may directly effect this country and its people.

It's nice of The Irish Independent to make their Shinner bashing accessible for all visitors to their site, while putting important health information regarding the corona virus behind a paywall.

walshb

Watched it last night..

Hard to believe that we had, what was pretty much concentration camps on this island for many years....

The adults involved in this depraved and sadistic torture of helpless and innocent children....makes my heart bleed. What utterly evil and disgusting human beings to inflict such pain and cruelty...

stockshares

Acosta wrote: »

It's nice of The Irish Independent to make their Shinner bashing accessible for all visitors to their site, while putting important health information regarding the corona virus behind a paywall.

Stupid thing to do but considering the info is provided by Ciara Kelly were probably better off.

stockshares

walshb wrote: »

Watched it last night..

Hard to believe that we had, what was pretty much concentration camps on this island for many years....

The adults involved in this depraved and sadistic torture of helpless and innocent children....makes my heart bleed. What utterly evil and disgusting human beings to inflict such pain and cruelty...

It would make you wonder why TD Joe McHugh would propose sealing these records for 75 years.

Who are the Politicians protecting?

You would think that they would have empathy for the people who experienced the abuse. Instead they cover it up so that Peadophiles can get away with it.

One can only presume that Politicians were either committing abuses on these kids also and/or had placed kids into these Institutions themselves after fathering children outside marriage.

FrancieBrady

They should have their photos taken with party leaders on the steps of the Dáil. You know those politicians that are oh so concerned about victims.

Raconteuse

Are tv programmes always news? Not sure all media outlets are backing the government of the day either.

stockshares

FrancieBrady wrote: »

They should have their photos taken with party leaders on the steps of the Dáil. You know those politicians that are oh so concerned about victims.

What would this achieve?

suicide_circus

stockshares wrote: »

What would this achieve?

political points

take everything

Watched some of it last night.

Depressing how people's lives can be blighted by this ****. Because of whatever twist of fate, they end up being preyed on for most of their young lives.

You think how lucky you are not to have the same fate.

And you come away thinking how could this happen. Institutionalised abuse. What's wrong with people.

It is because from the 1990s onwards this scandal was unearthed, its a long time ago, about 10 to 12 years ago the Ryan report came out and about 5 or 6 years ago the Tuam scandal came out.

It a weird thing from RTE that they seem to need to show or document constant outrage about Irish society.

It can never be made right for the victiums so I dont know what documentrys like this achive.

James Brown

TheValeyard wrote: »

To be fair, most of the country is rightly focused on the worldwide spread of the corona virus. Not saying this does not deserve attention. But their are some real big world wide problems going on right now that may directly effect this country and its people.

Yet we'd an article yesterday about Varadkar's meanderings on SF TD's personal incomes.

stockshares

mariaalice wrote: »

It is because from the 1990s onwards this scandal was unearthed, its a long time ago, about 10 to 12 years ago the Ryan report came out and about 5 or 6 years ago the Tuam scandal came out.

It a weird thing from RTE that they seem to need to show or document constant outrage about Irish society.

It can never be made right for the victiums so I dont know what documentrys like this achive.

The abuse can't be undone but getting justice for the abused can still be achieved.

It just needs political will.

The church must have something on the political parties.

It's not weird by RTE at all. Do you suggest it should be swept under the carpet and the abused should just put up with it and shut up?

Liveline did a whole program on it today and Ray D'Arcy spoke about it. Hardly a media blackout

stockshares

stockshares wrote: »

The abuse can't be undone but getting justice for the abused can still be achieved.

It just needs political will.

The church must have something on the political parties.

It's not weird by RTE at all. Do you suggest it should be swept under the carpet and the abused should just put up with it and shut up?

Of course not.

ILoveYourVibes

stockshares wrote: »

It's shocking that Bertie Aherns Government indemnified the Religious orders from Prosecution and capped the amount of compensation they had to pay and never ensured that the Orders paid this compensation.

Its not. Several people of importance in Ireland have made money off the church. The govt inc. They still will. And the church wields a lot of power.

The fact that Ahern did this is simply par of the course and shows the dark character of the man.

ILoveYourVibes

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Its not. Several people of importance in Ireland have made money off the church. The govt inc. They still will. And the church wields a lot of power.

The fact that Ahern did this is simply par of the course and shows the dark character of the man.

Have you an exampel of how the church wields a lot of power in 2020 Ireland?

ILoveYourVibes

stockshares wrote: »

The abuse can't be undone but getting justice for the abused can still be achieved.

It just needs political will.

The church must have something on the political parties.

It's not weird by RTE at all. Do you suggest it should be swept under the carpet and the abused should just put up with it and shut up?

No but most of the victims are older people. They won't be around forever.

So if we don't remember it. It will be forgotten and that is EXACTLY what the state and the Church want the Irish people to do.

ILoveYourVibes

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No but most of the victims are older people. They won't be around forever.

So if we don't remember it. It will be forgotten and that is EXACTLY what the state and the Church want the Irish people to do.

Why though? the politicians and civil servants who were in power at the time are most likely dead or very elderly the same with the religious.

I am curious about this do people think there is a conspiracy involving the government or power of for power's sake al la Foucault.

It is much more likely to indifference and neglect of individuals who because of poverty has little influence in society.

James Brown

stockshares wrote: »

The abuse can't be undone but getting justice for the abused can still be achieved.

It just needs political will.

The church must have something on the political parties.

It's not weird by RTE at all. Do you suggest it should be swept under the carpet and the abused should just put up with it and shut up?

FF/FG played defense for the church during the whole period.

Bowie

Bowie wrote: »

FF/FG played defense for the church during the whole period.

Have you an example of that at a corporate level not individual cranks who supported the church?.

I know someone who left the catholic church over the Ryan report and they wroth to Diarmuid Martin and told him so.

L1011

Irish Times covered it this morning

Broadcasters try to avoid covering rival broadcasters news / current affairs content out of spite

stockshares

In tonight's episode survivor John Prior was allowed to be questioned by the Christian Brothers at his meeting with the Redress Board. They were the Religious Order who abused him.

Who the hell allowed that to happen?

Btw Tusla are also proposing allowing perpetrators cross examine their victims. I'll upload a link after the programme.

No perpetrators were ever named or convicted from the Ryan report.

PressRun

Fianna Fail's paws are all over it.