Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Beasty

6 cases already in the Republic, 3 in the North. I fully expect temperatures to rise but would request everyone pays attention to the mod warnings carried over from earlier threads and set out below. In particular please remain civil to each other

First thread

Thread II

Thread III

Mod warnings:

Beasty wrote: »

OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

1. Please interact in a civil manner
2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

In terms of thread content:

4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread

Beasty wrote: »

Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

Now it's an instruction

Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread

Beasty wrote: »

OK

A number of posts have been sanctioned although it could have been many more

Could everyone please re-read the warnings in the OP

Could I also re-emphasise - attack the post, not the poster

I understand people can get very emotional about this sort of thing. Regardless of that there is no reason this cannot be discussed in a civil manner. Yes there are people implying there is little to worry about. Equally there are some doom and gloom merchants in the thread. Despite appearances I actually think most posters are probably somewhere in the middle recognising this is serious, but at this stage not overly so in Ireland

Whatever your own views are please recognise others are entitled to different views., Even if at different extremes please do not try and repeatedly ram your views down the throats of those who have differing views

In due course we may well have a far better understanding of this virus, but at present I do not think anyone can claim anything approaching a full understanding, and as always we need to take information posted by anonymous internet posters with a pinch of salt

Any questions PM me

Beasty wrote: »

I'm opening this one up with a very clear warning. Cut out all this cover-up/conspiracy stuff. If you have a reliable source quote it (not just their words but provide a link to a reliable source) - otherwise your claims carry little if any weight

Beasty wrote: »

A reminder to everyone

It is against site rules to seek or offer any medical advice. Please do not post here about your symptoms asking what to do. Contact your doctor by telephone and they can advise you as appropriate

All threadbans carry over, but we will reconsider if anyone wishes to discuss it further via PM

Please remember we have a Conspiracy Theories forum for speculation. Treat any information posted here as if it's from an anonymous internet poster. No-one is an expert here whatever they may claim. Please provide reliable sources where you can, and if you cannot please caveat your claims accordingly

Lashes28

You would think from the time Ireland had to watching how other countries have dealt with the out break. They would have put more proactive than reactive measures in place.

Fr_Dougal

The HSE, great bunch of lads.

Doctor Jimbob

Meet the new thread, same as the old thread.

timmyntc

Is it time to crack open each others heads, and feast on the goo inside?

Wombatman

Prediction time!!!!

Thursday morning next week, one week from now, how many diagnosed cases and deaths from Covid-19 in the ROI?

I'll go for 95 and 2.

pjohnson

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Meet the new thread, same as the old thread.

Dr. Tony can neither confirm or deny this statement.

Blueshoe

Chap on sky news last night. A professor who studies virus outbreaks, transmissions and the like said in 6 weeks time the UK will have serious issues.

I LOVE the thread title!!!

Gynoid

Gynoid wrote: »

Heh, sorry. My oldest has often said to me over the years, eh mam, wtf, no one else talks like that in real life

You’re grand! Every day is a school day for me. Yesterday’s linear and exponential lesson was fun.

I haven’t checked those words yet but I will and then use them in a sentence;)

Blueshoe

Wombatman wrote: »

Prediction time!!!!

Thursday morning next week, one week from now, how many diagnosed cases and deaths from Covid-19 in the ROI?

I'll go for 95 and 2.

45 and 1

Karmella

I work for a company which has many offices abroad including one in the Netherlands - so they sent out a communication with links to all the local health websites. I’m going on a personal trip to the Netherlands in a couple of weeks so I looked up the Dutch website out of curiosity.

For all those claiming that the HSE are spouting BS - well the Dutch website are singing from the same hymn sheet. Wash your hands, self isolate if you have travelled from one of the areas and show symptoms or have come in contact with a sick person who has travelled.
The Dutch foreign ministry have advised travel to Italy should be only ‘essential’
They diagnosed the first case on 27Feb and have 38 cases as of yesterday - most of whom travelled from Italy or have caught it from a traveller.
They are not panicking. And the Netherlands is a hell of a lot more densely populated than Ireland.

To be fair they do mention the areas. They temporarily shut down an entire hospital in one area because the sick person was there before diagnosis and they stopped new admissions to the ICU of another hospital (but the rest of that hospital operated as normal).

gozunda

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112728982&postcount=9491

Ireland not testing for community type spread apparently means we dont have it.

Great work lads. Keep it up.

cherryghost

Sorry for reposting, but its important to know some countries trying to be more proactive than reactive

"10 cases in Greece, and they have announced school closures and public gatherings in 3 districts in the west of the country.. they are more reactive than proactive and I hope it pays off. How long til we do it here (if at all...)?"

India has now barred S.Korean, Chinese, Italians, Iranians from entering country and reviewing today to expand to more countries.

Funsterdelux

Covid19
Covid19 Returns
Covid19 Forever
Covid19 and Robin

Gods Gift

Hope the virus doesn’t multiply like this thread.

Steve F

Yesterdays Totals
95,453 cases
3,286 Deaths
53,305 Recovered

Downlinz

Lashes28 wrote: »

You would think from the time Ireland had to watching how other countries have dealt with the out break. They would have put more proactive than reactive measures in place.

Very few countries in the west are acting proactively, business is too important it seems.

Is that mainland Greece, cherry ghost?

Gods Gift

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Covid19
Covid19 Returns
Covid19 Forever
Covid19 and Robin

It’s the Chinese fault so

Kung Foo Covid19.

ednwireland

Wombatman wrote: »

Prediction time!!!!

Thursday morning next week, one week from now, how many diagnosed cases and deaths from Covid-19 in the ROI?

I'll go for 95 and 2.

what can i win if im right !

Drumpot

Gynoid wrote: »

My reading on why there can be fret about these scenarios is that it taps into both our ancestral fear of plague and our scifi futuristic worry that it will be an invisible germ that is the mass assassin of the species.
Both these fears are in fact perfectly understandable and in many ways true. We are the descendents of the regular culls caused by pestilence, we will also most likely be seen off in the end as a species by pestilence.

Many remain cool and sanguine right now regarding this particular manifestation of a viral threat and may even scoff at others more panicked, but that there is a natural atavistic undercurrent in humans regarding novel invisible germs I think is perfectly understandable.

Being calm however is far better for the immune system.

This is true but there is an important caveat. For many people being calm is leading to them not caring and results in complacency. There is a threat here right now and some people are not taking it serious enough that’s going to have a huge impact on how bad it is. That St Patrick’s day parade is even up for debate is the clearest sign of that and prob one of the most concerning things of our authority’s real response. It totally contradicts what they say.

Not just that, you have said it yourself that it’s a perfectly natural reaction to a threat. Telling people to calm down is actually a silly message to put out, it doesn’t address their concerns.

Telling people there are contingency plans for all scenarios is comforting. That there are already plans on what we Will do if things do get very bad. All vital services will be maintained with electricity, gas, water and food delivery provisions plans in place if they should be needed. Information on where people can read this should be available. People should be able to put their names into a volunteer section so if we require more help in different areas we have instant access to them.

This whole “we can’t panic the country” has to stop. You have to get serious and start being honest with the people so people can prepare properly. From reports in Iran and Italy I heard there was an initial panic and then things settled down after people got used to isolation or changing the way they had to live. We are taking a head in the sand approach that will lead to more panic as the virus takes hold. We have no reason to believe it’s not going to get bad here (bad for vulnerable people).

I think this “focus on stopping” panic is the wrong strategy and it’s leading to distrust as we all know that they are talking sh*te about the chances of it spreading in Ireland. This makes anybody with a bit of of idea on this more concerned because it suggests they are way out of their depth and are going to make this worse then it needs to be.

Snow Garden

I know people that avoid news media entirely. They do not know what's going on in the outside world. I think that's rare on this small island but quite common abroad. They realise the amount of scaremongering and fear peddling is increasing year by year. It's something people should consider if they are anxious in nature. For example they completely missed the whole Brexit nonsense which was a waste of many people's time.

YFlyer

Heavy fog in Limerick city. The situation is beginning to get grim.

Gods Gift

ednwireland wrote: »

what can i win if im right !

A beautiful skiing trip for you and your family to northern Italy.

mlem123

gozunda wrote: »

Ireland not testing for community type spread apparently means we dont have it.

Great work lads. Keep it up.

But they are testing contacts?

Funsterdelux

ednwireland wrote: »

what can i win if im right !

2 Viles of the vaccine are up for grabs

Hector Savage

So ... assuming cases in Italy are doubling every 6 days - we are looking at 50K cases there in the next 30 days, do they have the capacity to put 5K people in ICU ?

A small number of schools have been affected. If a school closes for two weeks:

- Do teachers still get paid?
- Can some level of Skype/Webex support be offered to students e.g. a morning call to set work for the day?

A couple of weeks ago a UK doctor said if they get into school closures it could last two months i.e. close for two weeks but then roll on week-by-week until the crisis abated.

Wombatman

ednwireland wrote: »

what can i win if im right !

A case of Corona of course.

Heres that Worldometer source mentioned by Mic 1972 towards the end of the last thread:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Using the closed cases ratio the death rate is 6%. Thats sounds a bit grim to me.......