Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

circadian

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Sure the panic and alarm has already started with 13 cases

I think the alarm is the fact that we've not had exactly a lot of tests and within 7 positive cases we've had community spread. The HSE was rightly questioned and it's clear there are people out and about who probably should be more conscious of what's going on.

I don't think there's any need for panic but we need to be taking pretty serious measures quickly to prevent strain in the health services.

Dyr

bennyl10 wrote: »

This. And the majority being mild had been stressed again this morning by both the WHO and Britain’s chief medical officer

The majority of us won’t have symptoms any worse than that flu that floated around in December.

Be careful, wash hands, self isolate if needs be. But there is zero need to panic.

There’s a lot of scaremongering on this thread, it’s a wonder people aren’t terrified

I've a family member who's immunocomprised and in self isolation but the HSE won't test. In isolation with their family who have two others who would be at risk if they caught this

The two other family members who would be at risk and are waiting to hear if their contact is positive (but the HSE probably wont confirm directly with them)

So you can go f**k yourself with your scaremongering.

pjohnson

vintagecosmos wrote: »

This just bothers me. You are online writing to strangers on behalf of a friend who has gotten proper advice (no doubt from professionals). If someone on here said tell your friend to drink bleach to kill the virus would you have passed that info on? Did they ask you to go to an internet forum? Do you trust strangers above professionals?

Sorry to be harsh.

HSE Professionals like the gobdaw that has spread the disease to how many patients?

laurah591

jc_wicklow wrote: »

The four cases of guys who travelled to Italy are in south co Wicklow. Young guys- at least one has been hospitalised

Are these guys linked to Trinity case? Hope they make a quick recovery

Kermit.de.frog

I have said in the thread before think about our cold and damp climate in this country.

We are probably riddled with this in reality already. The numbers may upset some people over the next few days.

Nijmegen

Duke of Url wrote: »

Can I ask how reporting confirmed cases is benefitting anyone?

In jurisdictions abroad they use it as a way to alert people who may be affected to help drive social distancing and stop the spread of the virus.

Incidentally no new cases in Hubei, where they were literally hunting down people who bought flu medicine to test them and isolate them.

Cody montana

The Nal wrote: »

It's time to panic now

Why?

Funsterdelux

gifted wrote: »

There's going to be such a lot of cases that after a while it won't even feature as headlines news anymore......think thats what the the HSE and that Holohan chap are waiting for.....be grand!

A bit like the wars conflicts in Yemen, Syria and Ukraine.

The Nal

[PHP][/PHP]

Cody montana wrote: »

Why?

"Katy Perrys wedding plans 'hit by coronavirus'"

Bob24

Nijmegen wrote: »

So I’ve been here since day 1 of these threads, and all along it has been “X that occurred overseas isn’t going to occur here, go away with you.”

And it is not just posters here. Many specialists and politicians had been saying in the media until very recently that worrying about community spread and a possible pandemic in Europe/Ireland was scaremongering.

It is about time to question their credibility.

Not to panic, but to stop pretending everything is under control because one guy on TV says it is and to start taking this more seriously.

jc_wicklow

laurah591 wrote: »

Are these guys linked to Trinity case? Hope they make a quick recovery

Nope. Just a few friends who’d gone skiing together
At least one has kids in local school

tails_naf

Duke of Url wrote: »

Can I ask how reporting confirmed cases is benefitting anyone?

It's not right now, as saying there is a case without any detail of whereexactly so people could avoid is useless. The cats out of the bag now anyway, but a week ago proper information may have helped contain things.

ChikiChiki

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Wonder if there is any correlation with student doctors having their exams brought forward 7 weeks to what is happening in Limerick and Cork?

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1235596524580675586?s=19

It's a question of being practical. Final Med students train in hospitals. If the hospitals close to final meds they cannot graduate and perfectly trained and able medics are left waiting a year when lets face it we need all the docs we can get.

Amirani

nthclare wrote: »

Absolute gombeeenism, supposedly the gp was telling people not to travel because of the virus.
But decides to go right into the danger zone himself with his family, and his wife's a primary school teacher.

Imagine the hypocrisy and narcissism of those people, there's no excuse none whatsoever


Seriously WTF

He travelled before there was any indication of a problem in Italy. There was 0 active cases there when him and his family were there; Italian cases only started from 21st Feb.

He followed the advice of HSE exactly. He checked with public health officials upon returning and they told him to go to work. It's not his fault whatsoever.

Your post has far more gombeenism than any action taken by that patient and his family. You don't have a notion about how public health works.

Ninthlife

The Nal wrote: »

[PHP][/PHP]

"Katy Perrys wedding plans 'hit by coronavirus'"

Ok...now its time to panic

vintagecosmos

pjohnson wrote: »

HSE Professionals like the gobdaw that has spread the disease to how many patients?

Do you think they did it on purpose? Countries with better systems and procedures than ours are having the same outcomes. It's the nature of the beast.

Besides, that one person doesn't equal the whole medical profession. And I doubt you are going to stay at home planting magic beans instead of going to a medical professional if you become unwell.

Akrasia

bennyl10 wrote: »

This. And the majority being mild had been stressed again this morning by both the WHO and Britain’s chief medical officer

The majority of us won’t have symptoms any worse than that flu that floated around in December.

Be careful, wash hands, self isolate if needs be. But there is zero need to panic.

There’s a lot of scaremongering on this thread, it’s a wonder people aren’t terrified

The vast majority of people will be fine, but of those people, everyone has an elderly relative or friend or neighbor who is at risk due to underlying health conditions.

My wife has asthma, a little higher risk but would probably be ok. My mother has COPD and Crohn’s disease, she would be screwed.
My grandmother has emphysema and would also be at major risk of death.

ChikiChiki

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I have said in the thread before think about our cold and damp climate in this country.

We are probably riddled with this in reality already. The numbers may upset some people over the next few days.

Thats the reality. I have started walking to work this week. In the cold mornings you can see people breath in the air. Scientists have mentioned transmission via aerosols. Our country's climate is ripe for spread.

bennyl10

Bambi wrote: »

I've a family member who's immunocomprised and in self isolation but the HSE won't test. In isolation with their family who have two others who would be at risk if they caught this

The two other family members who would be at risk and are waiting to hear if their contact is positive (but the HSE probably wont confirm directly with them)

So you can go f**k yourself with your scaremongering.

There was someone on here last night saying 70% of is would be infected and 100s of thousands would die, with nothing to baxk it up from anywhere.

That is the definition of scaremongering.

People are going to get this, the vast majority will be fine.
Some, yes some will be sick.

BUT

Throwing figures out of nowhere to cause panic, however, is the definition of scaremongering.
Throwing out infected places with no confirmation, is the Defintion of scaremongering!

pjohnson

Amirani wrote: »

He travelled before there was any indication of a problem in Italy. There was 0 active cases there when him and his family were there; Italian cases only started from 21st Feb.

He followed the advice of HSE exactly. He checked with public health officials upon returning and they told him to go to work. It's not his fault whatsoever.

Your post has far more gombeenism than any action taken by that patient and his family. You don't have a notion about how public health works.

Christ :pac:

Duke of Url

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I have said in the thread before think about our cold and damp climate in this country.

We are probably riddled with this in reality already. The numbers may upset some people over the next few days.

You're repeating what everyone knows already.

I have a feeling your stating this over and over again for your "I told you so Moment" post.

Its a Pandemic. Everyone knows its a pandemic.

Kermit.de.frog

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Thats the reality. I have started walking to work this week. In the cold mornings you can see people breath in the air. Scientists have mentioned transmission via aerosols. Our country's climate is ripe for spread.

Exactly.

Which is why I hope when people see 100+ cases in a day that they won't lose their sh!t :pac:

tails_naf

Amirani wrote: »

He travelled before there was any indication of a problem in Italy. There was 0 active cases there when him and his family were there; Italian cases only started from 21st Feb.

He followed the advice of HSE exactly. He checked with public health officials upon returning and they told him to go to work. It's not his fault whatsoever.

Your post has far more gombeenism than any action taken by that patient and his family. You don't have a notion about how public health works.

And there's the problem, the official advice was and is way too relaxed. That GP may have spread it to sick and old people, i.e. the most vulnerable. How can they advise he should go back to work without testing is beyond me. Where is the risk assessment, or the foresight?

Kermit.de.frog

Duke of Url wrote: »

You're repeating what everyone knows already.

I have a feeling your stating this over and over again for your "I told you so Moment" post.

Its a Pandemic. Everyone knows its a pandemic.

I told you so :cool:

Widdensushi

Nijmegen wrote: »

So I’ve been here since day 1 of these threads, and all along it has been “X that occurred overseas isn’t going to occur here, go away with you.”

We now have predictable outbreak patterns in a number of countries and also predictable knock on results. Cops in Australia (and other countries) have ended up having to break up knife fights over loo roll. Of course shops will get resupplied, though to your point about bridges not getting blocked... if there’s a quarantine, in an area you will not be able to go to the shops. Government has taken over supplying households in many affected locked down areas. People rush to the shops before that because, well, they don’t trust the government.

I don't think Irish people will be having knife fights over loo roll,just too laid back for that.
there isn't much point in quarantines as it will be everywhere, the bridge comment was partly a reference to your username

Funsterdelux

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Exactly.

Which is why I hope when people see 100+ cases in a day that they won't lose their sh!t :pac:

Thus the need for loo roll stockpiling

Bob24

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I hope people don't get alarmed at the number of cases over the next few days. Most of these as elsewhere will be mild cases - severe cold type symptoms. Some will be more severe particularly with underlying problems but again it's following the exact trend of Iran, Italy, Germany...

It's all the same trajectory.

What I am personally concerned about is that the only country whereby we seem to see a reduction in new cases is China (if we can believe the figures), but many keep forgetting this followed the implementation of super drastic measures to limit propagation.

I fear because of this many countries (including European ones) are now getting complacent and thinking they just need to wait for 2 months and the number of new cases will start dropping; which I am not sure is a wise assumption. I think we might soon see different outcomes depending on how counties have managed the situation (and to say it bluntly I am more hopeful about Singapore or Korea than about Ireland or Italy).

daheff

Widdensushi wrote: »

I

there isn't much point in quarantines as it will be everywhere,

Surely the point of quarantine is to stop it getting everywhere??

RandomName2

Duke of Url wrote: »

You're repeating what everyone knows already.

I have a feeling your stating this over and over again for your "I told you so Moment" post.

Its a Pandemic. Everyone knows its a pandemic.

A damn less annoying than people saying 'hysteria' and 'alarmist'.

All the guys from northern Italy will be coming at the weekend. Nobody will be tested unless they present themselves to be tested.

Containment is over, the joke is there was never any containment in the first place.

uck51js9zml2yt

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Allegedly there is a high profile TD currently self isolating as their child may have come in contact with someone confirmed to have Covid19...it's kinda obvious if you are following some of the statements by this particular politician

You mean MLMD I assume.