Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Cee-Jay-Cee

Panrich wrote: »

No the first column translates as 'Recovered with symptoms' which means that they are still positive on tests but are to all intents recovered.

Recovered with symptoms is contradictory. If you have symptoms then you haven't recovered so the figures are meaningless.

KWAG2019

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Richard Bruton all day long.

Leaving aside my political differences I’d say he has the experience across govt and is not afraid to make decisions but he may be tainted again as biased toward business over the people.

Removalist

My other half works in Dublin airport, aerlingus flights from Venice and Milan that would normally be full are arriving with 20-30 people on board. Same with the Frankfurt flights.

thebaz

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Yeah but what does bureacracy have to do with either of those decisions?



You know there are 60 million folk in italy, mostly unaffected

I give up - why do nearly all cases in Eurpoe have a connection back to North Italy right now ??

I suppose its just coincidence ,

ThePopehimself

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Echo Live.ie 06.03.2020

Patient spent days in emergency department before diagnosis

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Coronavirus-latest-Deadly-virus-in-Cork-Patient-spent-days-in-emergency-department-before-diagnosis--0608fdbd-7e91-4440-bccf-f182dd8b1d6a-ds

A PATIENT had spent a number of days in the emergency department before the diagnosis was made.
The Cork man, aged in his 40s, became the first in the country to catch the infection through community transmission.

The patient had been taken to CUH by ambulance, complaining of pains in his head. He spent time in A&E before being discharged. He was readmitted in recent days and tested for the virus.

Unlike previous cases in Ireland, the man, aged in his 40s, had not travelled to northern Italy.

The patient was being cared for in an Intensive Care Unit last night.

(Hope the man is okay...seems they wasted days)

Wasn’t his diagnosis pure luck? He was sent for an X-ray and the radiologist found signs of it?

gozunda

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

But that would mean Waterford, Limerick and Cork are on "lock down"?
And there are posters here who we are remotely equipped to deal with this???? :pac:

The Irish hospital system will be rendered unusable if this continues.

Lack of infection control and protocols means that it will be in increasingly difficult for people to access critical care and other hospital services.

Depending on the same system which results in significant queues in A&E and lack of resources is a disaster in the making.

Akabusi

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Athlete = healthier than average person


no rocket science

You gave the example of a marathon runner being in ICU as a point to say that even the healthiest could get the virus.

My point is they are actually more vulnerable to it than the average Joe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43211447

https://bigthink.com/personal-growth/reasons-not-to-run-a-marathon

ixoy

Pretzill wrote: »

Why hadn't we isolation in place from the airport

Isolate what exactly? Every flight? All passengers from Northern Italy? Isolate certain ones based on quick scans? Where do you isolate them? People returning from initial hot zones were quarantined I think but the numbers were small. Not aware anywhere in Europe is isolating at the airport for flights.

ChikiChiki

banie01 wrote: »

Fitter does not equal healthier.

From joint wear to physical injury to inflammatory wear all are part and parcel of any athletic endeavour and all are an impact on health.

May have an impact on all that but they will still be generally healthier than the average person.

industry accountant

Removalist wrote: »

My other half works in Dublin airport, aerlingus flights from Venice and Milan that would normally be full are arriving with 20-30 people on board. Same with the Frankfurt flights.

Nice to know but even that 20 or 30 shouldn't be allowed

ThePopehimself

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

But that would mean Waterford, Limerick and Cork are on "lock down"?


And there are posters here who we are remotely equipped to deal with this???? :pac:

It isn't confirmed yet in Waterford and from what I gather, it is one ward.

weetiepie

pwurple wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/cork-town-cancels-st-patricks-day-parade-due-to-coronavirus-fears-986148.html

Fair play to them, a bit of sense at last, not waiting on direction from the HSE

Removalist

industry accountant wrote: »

Nice to know but even that 20 or 30 shouldn't be allowed

I agree.

joe40

ixoy wrote: »

Isolate what exactly? Every flight? All passengers from Northern Italy? Isolate certain ones based on quick scans? Where do you isolate them? People returning from initial hot zones were quarantined I think but the numbers were small. Not aware anywhere in Europe is isolating at the airport for flights.

Exactly. The issues so far relating to flights from Italy have been Irish people returning home. How exactly could that have been stopped.

Tacitus Kilgore

thebaz wrote: »

I give up - why do nearly all cases in Eurpoe have a connection back to North Italy right now ??

I suppose its just coincidence ,

WHERE DOES BUREAUCRACY COME INTO IT?

What is bureaucratic about the decisions made?

leahyl

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Can't cope with cakes being left uncovered all over the place in small shops. It's rotten

Long before this corona virus, my mother has thought this was the most unhygienic thing ever - she saw a child in Dunnes one day with their paws all over the cakes and pastries - she said it to a manager that they really should be covered in cling film or something - sure nothing was done. They continue to be displayed out in the open with no cover - although a few of them are up higher now so kids can't get their hands on them, but everybody is breathing on them anyway. Can't understand myself why this is allowed by the FSA.

Kermit.de.frog

A big cluster around northwest Germany, Netherlands, Belgium?

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235885799645863942

MOR316

Not arsed working. Keep hitting F5 reading this thread

industry accountant

joe40 wrote: »

Exactly. The issues so far relating to flights from Italy have been Irish people returning home. How exactly could that have been stopped.

I've seen this argument over and over.
Simple, bring them home but straight into quarantine until it can be verified they are clear or not.
Don't let them in to wander freely, going to work/school etc.
This is common sense stuff

Boggles

Wonder will they close the schools next week or wait until the week after?

Akabusi

I was meant to be in Italy this week for work but it got cancelled. Travelling to Spain next week, no restrictions on travel there yet. Unless we really kick off here with infections and they don't want me coming.

Duke of Url

iguana wrote: »

While numbers are low all cases seem to be being hospitalised. It makes sense because it lets our medical staff get used to safe practice and learn now while they can. In another week or so, mild cases will be told to stay home.

Hopefully the mild cases will be kicked out to let more serious cases in.

flynnlives

Im hearing of a confirmed case in UCHG

thebaz

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

WHERE DOES BUREAUCRACY COME INTO IT?

What is bureaucratic about the decisions made?

For the 5th time - Why were flights , bar emergency, allowed fly in from effected region, if we are trying to control the spread - Thats it - not explaining it again.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Its a fairly pathetic attitude. Don't like him don't listen to him. Wishing sickness in him or his fans is just pathetic

Well, exactly. He’s hardly omnipresent.

KWAG2019

Boggles wrote: »

Wonder will they close the schools next week or wait until the week after?

When do orals start? They might need to consider Skype FaceTime online alternatives; it would save examiners travelling from school to school too.

Tootsie_1

Ridiculous article by the Irish times in making hand sanitizer with essential oils and aloe absolutely no alcohol ...

wadacrack

https://twitter.com/jeremyfaust/status/1235732709416329217

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You do know the person in intensive care in cork is your age. The stats might say it only kills the old, there stats though it doesn't mean you get a free pass.

Yeah, for those saying they are fitter than when they were younger, it’s not really all about fitness. My father is very fit in his late 60s but he still has a late 60s immune system. The efficacy of the immune system declines with age.

tobefrank321

silver2020 wrote: »

And like that medical professional, you are not understanding this.

If flights from Italy were stopped then those who wanted to travel would simply hop on a train and use any number of alternative airports within very easy traveling distance.

So stop flights from Italy and all those would simply get flights from other airports. Even Munich airport is just 5 hours away by train.

You are understanding it less.

I will ask for the umpteenth time - if the flights bringing Italian rugby fans to a game that doesn't exist were cancelled, would the same fans hop on a train in Italy all the way to Germany, France etc and then hop on a plane, to travel to a game that doesn't exist?

The same goes for St Patricks day by the way.

We are and I include you in this encouraging and facilitating easy and cheap travel from highly infected areas.

Easy and cheap are the optimal words here. The cheaper and easier something is, the more people use it. You know this right?