Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

tillyfilly

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/nerd_hawk/status/1235800486063685633

disgraceful

Hamsterchops

UK figure has now jumped to 163 (Friday 2pm).

What time is the Irish update announced?

Ipso

Assetbacked wrote: »

Would you say it's time to crack open each other's skulls and feast on the goo inside?

Yes I would, Ken.

YFlyer

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/nerd_hawk/status/1235800486063685633

That's crazy. I would have self isolated.

sideswipe

Was in a Power City at 11:30 this morning, the guy there said they had sold 17 chest freezers already today. Local Tesco looks like Christmas Eve. People starting to get spooked!

Loafing Oaf

cameramonkey wrote: »

What would that make the death rate?

Round 1%

DrumSteve

darjeeling wrote: »

I'd be tempted to go ten-fold higher again at this point, maybe more.

So, applying that, you're looking at 160000; if the CFR of SK is correct, you're looking at 960 Deaths, WHO CFR would give 5440 deaths...

Kermit.de.frog

Togo has it's first case of Coronavirus!

WELCOME to the club

DrumSteve

cameramonkey wrote: »

What would that make the death rate?

.6% CFR

jam_mac_jam

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Togo has it's first case of Coronavirus!

WELCOME to the club

Classy

str8talkingguy

Duke of Url wrote: »

The Share Price is is what makes companies go Boom or Bust.

You arguing that more people on the internet is losing tech companies money,is like saying the sky is green and grass is blue.

cameramonkey

Skylar Mammoth Spike wrote: »

Already has in many stores (along with tissues), guy at checkout yesterday said they were starting to have supply issues.

And the general majority of the populaiton haven't even began to do any sort of bulk purchase yet.

WA in two Aldi's and two Lidl's this morning there was no shortage of any products that I could see except hand sanatisers and disinfectants.
Plenty of toilet roll. I dont understand the toilet roll thing, its as if the worst thing that can happen to you in the outbreak is having a dirty hole. Surely we can find other ways of cleaning are arse?

Assetbacked

Ipso wrote: »

Yes I would, Ken.

Ken?!?

darjeeling

DrumSteve wrote: »

So, applying that, you're looking at 160000; if the CFR of SK is correct, you're looking at 960 Deaths, WHO CFR would give 5440 deaths...

I think the WHO rate is inflated, and that it eventually be seen to be below 1%. How much below will be for the experts to say.
Wuhan looks to be anomalous, and there may well be substantial under-recording of cases there. Elsewhere in China the WHO found that cases didn't seem under-recorded, and the fatality rate there looks to be under 1%.

CFR on the Diamond Princess is also looking around 1%.

2ndcoming

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

No. It's new. So we don't know.

Might as well compare it to anything. We don't know what the stats are yet. Its too early.

Comparisons to the flu are about as relevant to waving a yardstick around.

Same arguements every few pages from the just a flu bro are clogging up the thread with the same thing. Over and over.

You're wrong. While it is new, it bears far more similarities to the flu than any other illness. Comparing it to say Cholera or Ebola would be as relevant as waving a yardstick around.

niallo27

Skylar Mammoth Spike wrote: »

Already has in many stores (along with tissues), guy at checkout yesterday said they were starting to have supply issues.

And the general majority of the populaiton haven't even began to do any sort of bulk purchase yet.

It's still on sale here in Clare, I can log in on tesco as well and order hundreds of rolls.

dan786

Hamsterchops wrote: »

UK figure has now jumped to 163 (Friday 2pm).

What time is the Irish update announced?

Around 8.45pm

DrumSteve

darjeeling wrote: »

I think the WHO rate is inflated, and that it eventually be seen to be below 1%. How much below will be for the experts to say.
Wuhan looks to be anomalous, and there may well be substantial under-recording of cases there. Elsewhere in China the WHO found that cases didn't seem under-recorded, and the fatality rate there looks to be under 1%.

I'd tend to agree; I think the real issue at the moment is the long recovery time (median recovery is 32 days; mild versions of the virus take up to 2 weeks) and also testing to make sure it's gone. So people can be ok; but it's hard to confirm it if all the energy is going into diagnostic of peopl with symptoms.

Kermit.de.frog

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Classy

What? I'm welcoming Togo to the coalition of the diseased.

What's your problem? :pac:

is_that_so

Some other reflections on the state of affairs.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-mind-and-brain/202002/the-coronavirus-is-much-worse-you-think

Rob A. Bank

Today's trolley watch

https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

Irish hospitals are 359 beds short today.

Dotsie~tmp

Deleted User wrote: »

Lads, whats the point in fighting this????

Knowledgeable posters with obvious scientific backgrounds/PhDs (definitely not hysterical loons) have said it is some kind of mixture between SARS/HIV/Black plague. We are doomed anyway.

We all die eventfully. No points sweating this sh*t, put your faith up in the Lord sonny.

Tacitus Kilgore

Assetbacked wrote: »

Ken?!?

Kenny Brockelstein

niallo27

Assetbacked wrote: »

Ken?!?

Think he means Kent.

jam_mac_jam

2ndcoming wrote: »

You're wrong. While it is new, it bears far more similarities to the flu than any other illness. Comparing it to say Cholera or Ebola would be as relevant as waving a yardstick around.

Sorry not being rude but i am not bothered doing this again. Yeah I'm wrong you're right.

Just a flu

freshpopcorn

sideswipe wrote: »

Was in a Power City at 11:30 this morning, the guy there said they had sold 17 chest freezers already today. Local Tesco looks like Christmas Eve. People starting to get spooked!

Going by the stock levels on the power city website they are about the same as the time I was buying one in 2018.
Supermarkets in my town are the normal Friday trade.

s7ryf3925pivug

Super valu had plenty of everything. Only change was a table with empty sanitizer bottles and packets of wipes at the entrance.
Doctor's phone was engaged most of the morning. They have started asking if you've been in Italy etc now when you make an appointment. (My kid has an ear infection.)

bronkobilly

cameramonkey wrote: »

Was in two Aldi's and two Lidl's this morning there was no shortage of any products that I could see except hand sanatisers and disinfectants.
Plenty of toilet roll. I dont understand the toilet roll thing, its as if the worst thing that can happen to you in the outbreak is having a dirty hole. Surely we can find other ways of cleaning are arse?

news paper

Dante7

cameramonkey wrote: »

Singapore has 120 cases with 82 recovered, first case Feb 4th so its a horse of a different colour.

Singapore is the Gold standard in how to contain this outbreak. Total transparency, travel bans, forced quarantines. They have been proactive from the beginning, and have contained the virus even though they they recorded their first case over a month ago. This is the model we should be following, but the HSE seem hellbent on doing the exact opposite.

"Singapore was aggressive out of the gate and has continued to be. It was one of the first countries to impose restrictions on anyone with recent travel history to China and parts of South Korea. It has a strict hospital and home quarantine regimen for potentially infected patients and is extensively tracing anyone they may have been in contact with.

It’s charging a couple who gave false information on their travel history and taking away residency status from a person who breached his quarantine, among other punitive actions.

Singapore “will not hesitate to take strong action” against rule breakers, Law Minister K. Shanmugam said in a statement Thursday. “The deliberate breaking of the rules, in the current situation, calls for swift and decisive response.”

The country started a text and mobile web-based software solution on Feb. 10 through which people placed under home quarantine could report their location to the government, according to a statement Thursday from the Prime Minister’s Office."

https://fortune.com/2020/02/28/singapore-coronavirus-contained-response/

Juwwi

In Dublin city centre at the moment just saw a group of about 15 Italians going into a hostel type accommodation off Talbot Street ..

Absolutely madness letting them come over .