Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

harr

Because I doubt a health care professional would be in cleaning the jacks

RocketRaccoon

gabeeg wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-patient-worked-shift-in-emergency-department-in-west-of-ireland-1.4193756

He did his shift with Shannon Doc, he didn't go to a hospital or anything. He was on call.

His name is going around Clare, he has a twitter page which shows him skiing in Italy on February 18th.

tuxy

SeaBreezes wrote: »

It's a nasty bug. Found in the brain too :-( butcher linked to it yesterday.

I'm sure you have a source for that info.....

Doctor Jimbob

BloodBath wrote: »

It will be like the monty python spam sketch every dinner time except pasta instead of spam.

Pasta, pasta, beans, and pasta
Pasta, tomatoes, pasta and beans
Beans, pasta, beans and tomatoes
Or pasta, pasta, pasta and pasta.

tuxy

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Pasta, pasta, beans, and pasta
Pasta, tomatoes, pasta and beans
Beans, pasta, beans and tomatoes
Or pasta, pasta, pasta and pasta.

Pasta is much more appropriate for the current vengan generation.

FortuneChip

seamus wrote: »

You have to wonder how these ideas get started.

For Storm Emma it was sliced pans. For this, it's pasta and tins of tomatoes.

Gonna be a lot of people feeling very silly come December when they have 20 bags of pasta and tinned tomatoes still taking up space in their kitchen presses.

Common Italian ingredients too. The daredevils.

Unearthly

Has there been no UK update on new cases? They usually do at around 2pm

tuxy

Unearthly wrote: »

Has there been no UK update on new cases? They usually do at around 2pm

I believe it's late today.

macwal

SeaBreezes wrote: »

It's a nasty bug. Found in the brain too :-( butcher linked to it yesterday.

Did he use a saw, or just crush the skull with a cleaver...?

gabeeg

Unearthly wrote: »

Has there been no UK update on new cases? They usually do at around 2pm

I think I read somewhere yesterday that they were moving to reporting weekly

Idioteque

Drumpot wrote: »

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1RDxlQpONLMKL

Hopefully they upload this as a video after it’s finished, excellent conference....

If you think these are good - the WHO daily briefings have been really good I've found. I can't find a schedule via the WHO main stie but I've been using the Guardian News Youtube channel which uploads them daily.

imfml

harr wrote: »

You really have to assume that someone who went on holiday to northern Italy and then came home and taught it was ok to head off to work for a shift in A&E is a bit thick
.... this isn’t an ordinary member of the public it’s a health care professional who would have been dealing with very vulnerable people.
The mind boggles

Followed HSE advise and went about life until they developed symptoms. HSE advise needs to be to self isolate for 2 weeks on return

tillyfilly

Dow Jones 900 point drop, 3%

fr336

gabeeg wrote: »

I think I read somewhere yesterday that they were moving to reporting weekly

No that was only about reporting where the cases are in the country. And they've since gone back on that, so will be continuing to make daily updates on cases and locations for those cases.

Snow Garden

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Pasta, pasta, beans, and pasta
Pasta, tomatoes, pasta and beans
Beans, pasta, beans and tomatoes
Or pasta, pasta, pasta and pasta.

Someone stockpiling pesto could be king...

Ninthlife

tuxy wrote: »

I believe it's late today.

Uh oh..... **plays dramatic foreboding music**

Downlinz

seamus wrote: »

You have to wonder how these ideas get started.

For Storm Emma it was sliced pans. For this, it's pasta and tins of tomatoes.

Gonna be a lot of people feeling very silly come December when they have 20 bags of pasta and tinned tomatoes still taking up space in their kitchen presses.

There's an actual real risk to the supply chain this time since production for certain cleaning and sanitary items have been shut down for weeks in China, then you have the likes of India restricting export of medicine to keep more for their own population. Lower supply and higher demand means empty shelves.

For food, people want to stock up in case they have to self isolate. Nobody wants to worry about things like that if they're feeling unwell and not everybody lives within a delivery range of a Tesco.

It's weird to me that people would ignore that and roll the dice because they don't want to look "silly" for having an extra pack of toilet paper or something but you do you :pac:

KWAG2019

tillyfilly wrote: »

Dow Jones 900 point drop, 3%

Up and down line a seesaw. The big beasts are making serious money. As for the rest....

Doctor Jimbob

Ninthlife wrote: »

Uh oh..... **plays dramatic foreboding music**

I don't want to be dramatic or anything but I'd say with the delay they'll be announcing at least 65,000 cases today.

William Legrande

seamus wrote: »

You have to wonder how these ideas get started.

For Storm Emma it was sliced pans. For this, it's pasta and tins of tomatoes.

Gonna be a lot of people feeling very silly come December when they have 20 bags of pasta and tinned tomatoes still taking up space in their kitchen presses.

After 'Rome falls' and the 0.1% are left to try and rebuild a future, the supermarkets will all be looted and burnt out, but all the houses in the land will be stuffed fully of penne pasta, tuna in spring water and chopped tomatoes with herbs. And jacks roll.

billybonkers

In a Claire Byrne poll, a panel of over 1,000 adults were asked whether they were “concerned about Covid-19 in Ireland”.

The results showed that most people were:

62% of people said Yes, they were concerned
30% of people said No they weren’t concerned
8% said they didn’t know.

The results showed that the group who were most concerned were women (67%) and those aged 55 and over (66%), as well as those aged between 35-44 (63%).

People aged 18-24, and men were the groups who were least worried (57% of each of these groups).

59% of the ABC1 groups were concerned, versus 64% of the C2DEF group.

macwal

Ninthlife wrote: »

Uh oh..... **plays dramatic foreboding music**

They'll wheel out Corporal Jones and Private Frazer to deliver this release...

Speak Now

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Irish sign language(Laimhe?) is very useful, we tried abit of it with our daughter as she was a slow talker, it was a great help.

ISL and Lámh are different with obviously some similarities.

Speak Now

tillyfilly wrote: »

Dow Jones 900 point drop, 3%

Still up 1380 points since last Fridays close.

cherryghost

Mother-in-law is due to visit us from Lombardy next week. Her return flight has been cancelled now so doubtful she is coming over now. She's not far from lockdown town, so frankly I'm a bit relieved she's likely not to be coming over.

Allinall

billybonkers wrote: »

In a Claire Byrne poll, a panel of over 1,000 adults were asked whether they were “concerned about Covid-19 in Ireland”.

The results showed that most people were:

62% of people said Yes, they were concerned
30% of people said No they weren’t concerned
8% said they didn’t know.

The results showed that the group who were most concerned were women (67%) and those aged 55 and over (66%), as well as those aged between 35-44 (63%).

People aged 18-24, and men were the groups who were least worried (57% of each of these groups).

59% of the ABC1 groups were concerned, versus 64% of the C2DEF group.

How can you not know whether you're concerned or not?

If you are concerned, then you cannot be "not concerned".

If you are not "concerned", then you cannot be concerned.

Bloody people.

Funsterdelux

Speak Now wrote: »

ISL and Lámh are different with obviously some similarities.

Laimhe it was then.

The Nal

cherryghost wrote: »

Mother-in-law is due to visit us from Lombardy next week. Her return flight has been cancelled now so doubtful she is coming over now. She's not far from lockdown town, so frankly I'm a bit relieved she's likely not to be coming over.

Doing a fist bump with the mother-in-law is awkward alright.

SafeSurfer

cherryghost wrote: »

Mother-in-law is due to visit us from Lombardy next week. Her return flight has been cancelled now so doubtful she is coming over now. She's not far from lockdown town, so frankly I'm a bit relieved she's likely not to be coming over.

Same here since I found out my mother in law won’t be visiting. She’s from Dublin.

Funsterdelux

Snow Garden wrote: »

Someone stockpiling pesto could be king...

I wasnt going to plant much veg this year but maybe I will.

drunkmonkey

Gynoid

cherryghost wrote: »

Mother-in-law is due to visit us from Lombardy next week. Her return flight has been cancelled now so doubtful she is coming over now. She's not far from lockdown town, so frankly I'm a bit relieved she's likely not to be coming over.

My husband would be doing knee slides down the hallway with that get out clause.

QueenMTBee

Somedaythefire wrote: »

It’s for self isolation. It’s common knowledge Tinned goods and pasta have long shelf lives. If you have to self isolate you can’t go to the shop to get more food. I haven’t done it but I don’t see why anyone would feel silly having extra food

For as long as I can remember, my parents have always have enough food stuffs in the house to survive for six months. I think it comes from when they were kids in the war and there was absolutely nothing to eat. At least now I don't have to worry about them going hungry if they need to isolate for a month or two for self-preservation reasons.

Edited to say that, although we live in Ireland now, my parents are English and were in England during the war. (for the lovely person who PM'd me saying that was bullsh*t because Ireland wasn't affected by the war)

Pretzill

Does anyone else get the feeling the HSE are more interested in containing the spread of rumours than a virus (¬_¬)

the butcher

tuxy wrote: »

I'm sure you have a source for that info.....

https://www.toutiao.com/a6800294705910252036/?tt_from=copy_link&utm_campaign=client_share&timestamp=1583320886&app=news_article&utm_source=copy_link&utm_medium=toutiao_ios&req_id=202003041921260101310751951D096C29&group_id=6800294705910252036



Same as in SARS -
https://academic.oup.com/clinchem/article/49/12/2108/5642159

Intra-nasal delivery bypasses the blood-brain barrier via the Olfactory bulb ->
https://jvi.asm.org/content/82/15/7264

I would assume it's rare.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

Wibbs

billybonkers wrote: »

In a Claire Byrne poll, a panel of over 1,000 adults were asked whether they were “concerned about Covid-19 in Ireland”.

The results showed that most people were:

62% of people said Yes, they were concerned
30% of people said No they weren’t concerned
8% said they didn’t know.

The results showed that the group who were most concerned were women (67%) and those aged 55 and over (66%), as well as those aged between 35-44 (63%).

People aged 18-24, and men were the groups who were least worried (57% of each of these groups).

59% of the ABC1 groups were concerned, versus 64% of the C2DEF group.

Makes some sense alright. Women tend to panic/worry more in general especially when it looks like the poo will hit the propeller. They've historically had more to worry about when society goes any way south and they(and their kids) are more vulnerable overall. Similar goes for the elderly and marginalised groups. Men in their prime tend to worry less and the 18 to 24 demographic, the young tend to be much less risk averse and aware than older people.

forzacalcio

Take this with an absolute pinch of salt, I've no proof just word from someone who works there but there seems to be a case in CUH Cork. Again not trying to scaremonger or worry people I'm just posting what I've heard and I've no basis to it other than being told by someone working there.

BloodBath

William Legrande wrote: »

After 'Rome falls' and the 0.1% are left to try and rebuild a future, the supermarkets will all be looted and burnt out, but all the houses in the land will be stuffed fully of penne pasta, tuna in spring water and chopped tomatoes with herbs. And jacks roll.

It will be like fallout except we trade in pasta instead of bottlecaps.

the butcher

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-03/05/c_138846529.htm

The medical staff then conducted gene sequencing on samples of his cerebrospinal fluid and confirmed the presence of the novel coronavirus, diagnosing the COVID-19 patient with encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain.

Drumpot

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1RDxlQpONLMKL

-question on details of West cases yesterday and how many people tested - 70 tested yesterday - still in process of contact tracing

- TG4 - question and answer in Irish. Think it was the answer to the meaning of life but I can’t translate

- ICU beds/units - how many in Ireland - answer 245

- should Big events be going ahead - couldn’t hear (missed some questions)

- George Lee very good question- are they being too vague with information? (Making it hard for media to equally know how to respond) - trying to get balance - kinda wishy washy on that

- anymore new cases? - we wait feedback and usually later in day

- case specific criteria sometimes when determining next action

- won’t Answer question on individual cases

- more people worrying because of vagueness of announcements- trying to find balance between public calm, reassuring public and information . Wider public can help slow this down

- Taking steps daily to deploy resources and staff as needed

- complaints to social media platforms - important to regulate bullsh*t (then keep up excellent seminars like this, people will keep using social media)

- how should companies react to Suspect case? (Stream went off)

iguana

Downlinz wrote: »

It's weird to me that people would ignore that and roll the dice because they don't want to look "silly" for having an extra pack of toilet paper or something but you do you :pac:

I stocked up last week. I just honestly don’t see any downside to having a cupboard full of long life food I’m going to eat anyway.

harr

HSE seem a little more panicked today and not as sure of themselves

Ninthlife

BloodBath wrote: »

It will be like fallout except we trade in pasta instead of bottlecaps.

People need to be sure it doesnt go pasta its use by date

the butcher

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235584047797198850

Michelinextra.

Downlinz wrote: »

There's an actual real risk to the supply chain this time since production for certain cleaning and sanitary items have been shut down for weeks in China, then you have the likes of India restricting export of medicine to keep more for their own population. Lower supply and higher demand means empty shelves.

For food, people want to stock up in case they have to self isolate. Nobody wants to worry about things like that if they're feeling unwell and not everybody lives within a delivery range of a Tesco.

It's weird to me that people would ignore that and roll the dice because they don't want to look "silly" for having an extra pack of toilet paper or something but you do you :pac:

Some crack for the Tesco delivery drivers

DrumSteve

I keep doing every calculation I can think of and I keep coming back to a CFR of 3.4%.

The only factor I didn't include was undiagnosed cases.

stephenjmcd

harr wrote: »

HSE seem a little more panicked today and not as sure of themselves

How ? not seen any difference in them.

They're just trying to force home the same information they've been giving since the start

antodeco

Ninthlife wrote: »

People need to be sure it doesnt go pasta its use by date

Terrible pun. I hope the rest of us can rice above it

the butcher

I think before people start freaking out about their own coughs etc - a big indicator for clinical diagnosis is the trouble breathing and low oxygen (Dysopnea / Hypoxia which is 55% of cases). If you've got the sniffles too, more than likely are not effected (4% runny nose).

This info will be more useful by end of the month but still good to take note of now.

Drumpot

Downlinz wrote: »

There's an actual real risk to the supply chain this time since production for certain cleaning and sanitary items have been shut down for weeks in China, then you have the likes of India restricting export of medicine to keep more for their own population. Lower supply and higher demand means empty shelves.

For food, people want to stock up in case they have to self isolate. Nobody wants to worry about things like that if they're feeling unwell and not everybody lives within a delivery range of a Tesco.

It's weird to me that people would ignore that and roll the dice because they don't want to look "silly" for having an extra pack of toilet paper or something but you do you :pac:

India have apparently started limiting export of antibiotics out of the country. (Heard this from Dr John but link https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/india-limits-medicine-exports-coronavirus-paracetamol-antibiotics )

Again, I really don’t think a lot of people realize how this is going to have so many knock on affects to us all. Not end of the world but significant problems will arise where people have not expected it.