Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

expectationlost

who is the woman journalist at the HSE briefings who can't finish a sentence?

Go Home Paddy Cat!!

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

Explain? What’s the joke?

Nice try!!

Sober Crappy Chemis

Not a drop of pasta to be had in Kimmage...

banie01

Purple Mountain wrote: »

How so?

They are adamant that there are more than the number reported as confirmed currently being treated within the mid west/western area alone.

niallo27

skimpydoo wrote: »

As someone with a compromised immune system who has to be careful in crowded areas, I am devastated that we are been lied to.

How do you know you are being lied to. It makes no sense to lie to us.

ZX7R

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Only undergrad. Postgrad classes proceeded as normal.

Postgraduates would make up a small number of the students .

Ohmeha

bodhrandude wrote: »

If they don't change the testing criteria soon I can envisage one of the tabloids with the headline of someone whose member of family has died while waiting to be tested or not passing the testing criteria. Lets hope it doesn't get to that stage

I've been saying it all along, until there is WIDESPREAD fatalities due to this virus (which there sadly will be) then the country will wake the F-up and realise the short window of opportunity to minimize deaths was wasted by FG/Varadkar/Harris/Holohan/HSE determining that setting up a table at Dublin Airport to hand out leaflets to travelers in from Northern Italy was the most effective preemptive measure to save lives

babybuilder

faceman wrote: »

I’m watching all this happen from afar in California. Over here people are really freaked. You’d swear WW3 was about to kick off. One good thing has happened though. Retailer started price gauging hand sanitisers etc. A rule was passed quite rapidly to ban price gauging of certain products and there is a method to report retailers who do it in place.

While this is a nasty flu some of the scaremongering and coverage is crazy, creating a bigger issue and sense of hysteria.

Suggestions of banning flights from northern Italy are just ridiculous given this is the EU. Free movement of people just means people will reroute which would only serve to potentially make things worse.

The whole focus on the need for proper personal hygiene is highlighting how poor personal hygiene many people have.

Just deny entry to passport holders from infected areas or as has been suggested two weeks quarantine on arrival

retro:electro

Come here to me, and this is going to sound really stupid but go easy on me right. When they go on about community transmission.. surely its all community transmission no? Sure it’s not the region of italy that’s infected it’s the people in it. Isn’t everyone who is infected getting it from person to person? Splain it to me slowly.

expectationlost

froog wrote: »

the death rate is almost certainly way below 3.4%. i suspect the WHO put out that crude number (which flys in the face of their normal death rate cautious approach) to try and scare some countries into taking this more seriously, namely the US. there are testing problems and shortages in a number of countries and some countries are not testing as much anymore, only symptomatic patients. not to mention large numbers of infected that have very mild symptoms or none at all. one thing that does get reported accurately is deaths for obvious reasons. and so we have a vastly overestimated death rate.

it would not be unreasonable to estimate current death rate as below 1% if not below 0.5%.

over what time length are death rates judged over?

s7ryf3925pivug

boege wrote: »

Folks,
Living down here in the so called 'West' and have a lot of contacts working in the HSE and they are agog at what has just been presented tonight.

Does anyone know what time cut off they used for today's numbers?

Do you mean that there are a lot of new cases that haven't been confirmed and reported yet?

freshpopcorn

Westernyelp

Blueshoe wrote: »

Trump signed 8 billion dollar bill into fighting virus and finding a vaccine.

Il say it on all of your behalf.

Thank you president Trump

You don't speak for me

Hurrache

Blueshoe wrote: »

Trump signed 8 billion dollar bill into fighting virus and finding a vaccine.

Il say it on all of your behalf.

Thank you president Trump

You don't thank the person putting stitches in your head after they just smashed it in with a brick.

Cuckoo7

babybuilder wrote: »

Just deny entry to passport holders from infected areas or as has been suggested two weeks quarantine on arrival

Taking into account right until now all the infected have been irish passport holders I don’t see how your idea would have helped.

Monkeynut

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

Not a drop of pasta to be had in Kimmage...

Usually you can get it at Ailesbury Road or Shrewsbury Road.

hmmm

retro:electro wrote: »

Come here, and this is going to sound really stupid but go easy on me right. When they go on about community transmission.. surely its all community transmission no? Sure it’s not the region of italy that’s infected it’s the people in it. Isn’t everyone who is infected getting it from person to person? Splain it to me slowly.

"Community transmission" is a term where they can't trace the history e.g. someone who has been to Italy or China. It means someone is spreading the virus, and they don't know who the source is.

It is indeed all transmission in the community of course

babybuilder

Cuckoo7 wrote: »

Taking into account right until now all the infected have been irish passport holders I don’t see how your idea would have helped.

Irish passport holders quarantined also.

woohoo!!!

MD1990 wrote: »

Jesus Christ this thread has reached a new low.

18 confirmed cases and were spying on how many are out

There are some who are on some sort of count porn. But the majority scratching their heads are citing medical sources that are expressing doubt that 5 is today's real total.

Myself I got a shock at yesterday's jump and have now reconciled that it's going to up higher and quickly. On what day it's announced isn't vital for me anyway.

The HSE are obviously not giving specifics of locations but that's coming out anyway so by the following morning, it's known anyway.

Professor Moriarty

retro:electro wrote: »

Come here to me, and this is going to sound really stupid but go easy on me right. When they go on about community transmission.. surely its all community transmission no? Sure it’s not the region of italy that’s infected it’s the people in it. Isn’t everyone who is infected getting it from person to person? Splain it to me slowly.

If I go to Italy and pick up the virus then it's not community transmission. If I go down the local and some infected twat sneezes into my pint then that's community transmission.

hmmm

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

Not a drop of pasta to be had in Kimmage...

This is different to an approaching storm, the shops will be restocked over the next few days. It's just a pity people hadn't been throwing in one or two items over the past few weeks, rather than shoving everything into their trollies at one go. We need a public education campaign showing people how to stockpile properly in a way which doesn't cause shortages.

Cilldara_2000

babybuilder wrote: »

Just deny entry to passport holders from infected areas or as has been suggested two weeks quarantine on arrival

Italy banned flights form China 21 days before their cases took off from 3 to 23. How did that work for them?

froog

expectationlost wrote: »

over what time length are death rates judged over?

case fatality rates cannot be accurately estimated really until the pandemic is over and all cases are closed. during the pandemic its estimated based a whole range of factors, current data, estimates of unreported cases, data from previous pandemics etc. and always carrys a big asterisk. the WHO simply using deaths / total cases is not the normal way the WHO and other agencies calculate these things, which is why i suspect they put it out to scare countries into action.

ZX7R

ZX7R wrote: »

Postgraduates would make up a small number of the students .

Depending on the school, postgrad numbers can be huge. Anyway, was just clarifying the point that the college has been far from inactive this week

outsourced_ire

SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »

All the Barry's tea was gone in Tesco Ballincollig earlier, believe me we are taking this seriously

Thought it was hilarious that the Lyons tea was still left

expectationlost

froog wrote: »

case fatality rates cannot be accurately estimated really until the pandemic is over and all cases are closed. during the pandemic its estimated based a whole range of factors, current data, estimates of unreported cases, data from previous pandemics etc. and always carrys a big asterisk. the WHO simply using deaths / total cases is not the normal way the WHO and other agencies calculate these things, which is why i suspect they put it out to scare countries into action.

thats what I was thinking but wouldn't the death rate be higher at the start of new virus, then over the course of even one season of it.

tillyfilly

The toiletrollvirus

bodhrandude

retro:electro wrote: »

Come here to me, and this is going to sound really stupid but go easy on me right. When they go on about community transmission.. surely its all community transmission no? Sure it’s not the region of italy that’s infected it’s the people in it. Isn’t everyone who is infected getting it from person to person? Splain it to me slowly.

Yeah I never understood the health authorities here saying its low risk when you see it sprouting all over Italy, Iran and everywhere else. If the WHO is saying it could last through the summer I can imagine all festivals will have to be cancelled and suppose I could do with a lay year hiding in the corner of my bedroom isolating hahaha.

hmmm

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Italy banned flights form China 21 days before their cases took off from 3 to 23. How did that work for them?

Italy were also one of the few EU countries which banned flights from China early.

The scientists told us travel bans wouldn't work, and countries went ahead with them anyway. It's ironic (in an unfortunate way) that Italy becomes the first EU country with a significant outbreak, but it just shows that the science was correct.

Sober Crappy Chemis

hmmm wrote: »

This is different to an approaching storm, the shops will be restocked over the next few days. It's just a pity people hadn't been throwing in one or two items over the past few weeks, rather than shoving everything into their trollies at one go. We need a public education campaign showing people how to stockpile properly in a way which doesn't cause shortages.

I’ve a black market here in Kimmage for boil in the bag rice. And oxtail soup.