Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Pseudonym121

re: Italy. You have to bear in mind the population it got into. It managed to get into hospitals and nursing homes before they realised they had it. Just by age alone and illness alone you could expect those places to have very high mortality.

The Washington State mortality rate is also skewed by nursing home involvement.

Sometimes detailed statistics distract from the big picture. The 4.whatever percent figure from Italy is misleading, the focus on daily rates of increase in Ireland are not as important as people here seem to think.

The key points are the big figures. WHO estimate of 40 to 70% of the worlds population infected over the next year and roughly 2% mortality. Some countries will have a higher death rate if they have more elderly people and poorer general public health.

The daily stats aren’t what we should focus on. We should focus on the big figures over the next year and hand washing and social distancing. The better we are at those the more likely we will reduce the numbers infected below 40 to 70% which will aid us all in general and specifically.

ciarrai38

Austrian government have announced that they will be suspending all direct flights from Northern Italy, Iran and South Korea into the country

fr336

Strazdas wrote: »

The good news is though they think the numbers should fall drastically once we get into summer, no matter what approach the authorities go for.

Did they give any rationale for that?

VinLieger

3 people i know of who flew in from Italy last week have all tested positive, why in the holy living **** have we not stopped flights?

Funsterdelux

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

If we’re a few weeks behind Italy as many believe, anyone know what it’s like over there right now? I mean we’ve got the numbers and they look grim, but what is the day to day like? People staying at home or going to work, businesses open or operating, etc? Obviously different regions are different depending on intensity of outbreak

this-is-surreal-italian-towns-struggle-under-coronavirus-lockdown

Tootsie_1

Someone was telling me today that the top 2 under lying conditions in people who have died are heart disease and diabetes , surprised its not respiratory disorders but there you go .

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/925681

sdanseo

Public health Doctor on the Late Late doing her best to show the audience how to properly wash hands, and Ryan joking and talking over her. The message was lost.

We are utterly, utterly incompetent in all manner of governance and public information. It'd ludicrous. Like the sort of thing you'd expect in sub-saharan African dictatorships.

Pseudonym121

IAMAMORON wrote: »

This is what happens when media frenzy takes over. Lick it up bitches.

You are sitting on your couch on a Friday night watching a grown man teach you how to wash your phucking hands.

Congratulations license payers, this is what you get when you mess with us.

Actually there is a specific way to wash your hands to best remove any virus/bacteria. You can’t simply assume that you know how to wash them without training in a manner which will reach the level of protection which doctors and nurses can achieve.

Why would you be so flippant and denigrators towards actually learning something useful?

spuddy90

odyssey06 wrote: »

Are they? If so many people are saying this it should be easy for you to cite examples...

Would they still be alive if they hadn't encountered covid-19?

How may people have died from covid 19 with no pre existing illnesses?

Straffan1979

There’s no stats of the people recovered and recovering from COVID-19-nobody is interested in them either.

khalessi

Hse ceo on late late

amadangomor

spuddy90 wrote: »

How may people have died from covid 19 with no pre existing illnesses?

Give it up please man.

Strazdas

gabeeg wrote: »

Post them

Watch Sky News at 10pm

It echoes other reports in the UK media today.....their experts think the next eight weeks will be the roughest part and then numbers will taper

givyjoe

Straffan1979 wrote: »

There’s no stats of the people recovered and recovering from COVID-19-nobody is interested in them either.

I am.

bodice ripper

IAMAMORON wrote: »

This is what happens when media frenzy takes over. Lick it up bitches.

You are sitting on your couch on a Friday night watching a grown man teach you how to wash your phucking hands.

Congratulations license payers, this is what you get when you mess with us.

Sadly, a huge chunk of the general population need a lesson in washing their phucking hands. I have seen it.

Miike

IAMAMORON wrote: »

This is what happens when media frenzy takes over. Lick it up bitches.

You are sitting on your couch on a Friday night watching a grown man teach you how to wash your phucking hands.

Congratulations license payers, this is what you get when you mess with us.

You're aware that all clinical staff in this country re-certify every 12 months in hand hygiene right? It's very easy to forget the importance of following a technique. The general public will never have had exposure to the correct hand hygiene technique which is by far the most important factor in the prevention of nearly ALL nosocomial infections which could easily translate into prevention of community acquired infections given the lack of clinical knowledge in that population.

Mic 1972

Straffan1979 wrote: »

There’s no stats of the people recovered and recovering from COVID-19-nobody is interested in them either.

Total resolved cases

• 6% Deaths
• 94% Recoveries

ChikiChiki

khalessi wrote: »

Hse ceo on late late

He is not long out of Fingal County Council. Some step up.

gabeeg

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

re: Italy. You have to bear in mind the population it got into. It managed to get into hospitals and nursing homes before they realised they had it. Just by age alone and illness alone you could expect those places to have very high mortality.

The Washington State mortality rate is also skewed by nursing home involvement.

Sometimes detailed statistics distract from the big picture. The 4.whatever percent figure from Italy is misleading, the focus on daily rates of increase in Ireland are not as important as people here seem to think.

The key points are the big figures. WHO estimate of 40 to 70% of the worlds population infected over the next year and roughly 2% mortality. Some countries will have a higher death rate if they have more elderly people and poorer general public health.

The daily stats aren’t what we should focus on. We should focus on the big figures over the next year and hand washing and social distancing. The better we are at those the more likely we will reduce the numbers infected below 40 to 70% which will aid us all in general and specifically.

But we have to look at the numbers coming in to get a sense of whether it's 40 or 70% and your way sounds quite dull for a global pandemic.

I'll tell you what, you focus on handwashing and social distancing, and I'll let you know when we've hit 40%

Tootsie_1

780 people tested to date - Paul Reid

tuxy

fr336 wrote: »

Did they give any rationale for that?

À virus survives for a shorter time outside a host when temperatures are higher and there is more UV light

drunkmonkey

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

Someone was telling me today that the top 2 under lying conditions in people who have died are heart disease and diabetes , surprised its not respiratory disorders but there you go .

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/925681

Considering the amount of heart disease and especially diabetic numbers in the country that's a lot of at risk people.

all about the mane

IAMAMORON wrote: »

This is what happens when media frenzy takes over. Lick it up bitches.

You are sitting on your couch on a Friday night watching a grown man teach you how to wash your phucking hands.

Congratulations license payers, this is what you get when you mess with us.

you are

amadangomor

Miike wrote: »

You're aware that all clinical staff in this country re-certify every 12 months in hand hygiene right? It's very easy to forget the importance of following a technique. The general public will never have had exposure to the correct hand hygiene technique which is by far the most important factor in the prevention of nearly ALL nosocomial infections which could easily translate into prevention of community acquired infections given the lack of clinical knowledge in that population.

Good points, we should add it to the curriculum in primary school.

MarkY91

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Why would an island make things worse? I'd rather live here than be travelling around London on the tube.

But London is a city on an island just like Ireland is

123654789

Of all the ****e decisions by the Govt /HSE tonight's news has me seriously enraged :mad::mad::mad:


It's bad enough that they're not banning parades and mass gatherings, but they're actually getting snotty about "unilateral decisions" where parades ARE being cancelled and nursing homes going on lock down? To PROTECT people?? Which is more than the government is doing!

How dare they!! Orders and decisions to close those events should have been mandatory and at national level.

Jesus wept

all about the mane

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Total resolved cases

• 6% Deaths
• 94% Recoveries

Of known cases. Numbers are probably way off those

hblock21

spuddy90 wrote: »

Average age of deaths in italy is 81. With 2 or more pre existing conditions. So ye they died. Not because of covid 19 alone that so many people seem to think is the case.

But they might have lived another 6 months, 1 year or 3 years. So yeah they died. But did covid remove them from their families much earlier. And yeah they could have just as easily died from flue next week too but...

Professor Moriarty

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

re: Italy. You have to bear in mind the population it got into. It managed to get into hospitals and nursing homes before they realised they had it. Just by age alone and illness alone you could expect those places to have very high mortality.

The Washington State mortality rate is also skewed by nursing home involvement.

Sometimes detailed statistics distract from the big picture. The 4.whatever percent figure from Italy is misleading, the focus on daily rates of increase in Ireland are not as important as people here seem to think.

The key points are the big figures. WHO estimate of 40 to 70% of the worlds population infected over the next year and roughly 2% mortality. Some countries will have a higher death rate if they have more elderly people and poorer general public health.

The daily stats aren’t what we should focus on. We should focus on the big figures over the next year and hand washing and social distancing. The better we are at those the more likely we will reduce the numbers infected below 40 to 70% which will aid us all in general and specifically.

Plus a vaccine. Also, worldwide stats are crude insofar as they would include countries such as India where large swathes of the population will have no access to health care alongside countries with excellent health care such as Germany.

tobefrank321

Westernyelp wrote: »

Try touching your face with your elbow after

Eh if the next person also sneezes into their elbow they will likely pick up the virus from the previous person.