Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

digitaldr

bb12 wrote: »

great interview with bruce ayleward...interesting point for a lot of you who think you're not in the high risk group...he found that in china there are lots of examples where healthy 30 and 40 year olds succumbed to the virus and the doctors still have no idea why

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUI6DIswmFk

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Bruce is the man alright. This 2 hour video is excellent and would be a much better use of time than hanging out here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o0q1XMRKYM

digitaldr

It's not possible to prevent every single case. The aim is to spread the cases over a longer period of time so that the health service and economy can cope. This is especially important in the case of COVID 19 as severely ill cases may be in hospital for many weeks. In the absence of a vaccine or effective treatment the only way to achieve this is by hand washing, good respiratory etiquette, measures to limit community spread, case detection, contact tracing and isolation. These all take buy in from the public, all government departments, unions etc. Travel bans may have some limited role - Italy was one of the few EU countries with a blanket ban on flights from China! Airport temperature screening doesn't work (see Italy again) and is just done for the sake of optics.

cnocbui

haydeyhi wrote: »

I have my adblocker setup through a raspberry PI thanks very much.

Lol, well then it's not very good if you are seeing ads and I don't get even one.

bodhrandude

Two more US deaths in Florida this time. CNBC.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8084973/Panic-Sydney-man-COLLAPSES-having-coughing-fit-Australias-coronavirus-epicentre.html

Sydney: man collapses while having a coughing fit in Australia's coronavirus epicentre - and people just stand round and take photos

Kermit.de.frog

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8084973/Panic-Sydney-man-COLLAPSES-having-coughing-fit-Australias-coronavirus-epicentre.html

Sydney: man collapses while having a coughing fit in Australia's coronavirus epicentre - and people just stand round and take photos

Got to make sure your camera is working before helping!

bodhrandude

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Got to make sure your camera is working before helping!

I'd leave the helping to the Hazmat guys and gals, I think someone did call emergency services though.

owlbethere

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8084973/Panic-Sydney-man-COLLAPSES-having-coughing-fit-Australias-coronavirus-epicentre.html

Sydney: man collapses while having a coughing fit in Australia's coronavirus epicentre - and people just stand round and take photos

You weren't there. We can see that's there's two people taking pictures. We don't know if there's anyone in the background calling an ambulance.

This would be good for us to learn from. What would you do if you were at an Irish bus stop and someone fell over coughing knowing that there's a contagious disease with cough as a symptom. As it stands, I would be slow to rush over and help.

owlbethere

Bus stops are small spaces. I won't be standing in bus stops from now on. I will stand outside the bus stop and away from people.

Kermit.de.frog

Prob posted already but here we go again

https://twitter.com/KateABC7/status/1236061304831397888

boetstark

Dear God, what is wrong with Ireland as a country. Why do we always end up with imbeciles in charge during times of crisis.
All rational evidence and expert opinions say curtail incoming flights and cancel mass gatherings.
No, Comical Ali Holohan and Varadkar know better.
We are being walked into a crisis once again by incompetence and ignorance,might as well put Paddy Neary in charge.

kowloonkev

faceman wrote: »

Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Have you been to these so called hospitals? I bet you haven’t.

There are many varying degrees of hospitals in China. The only ones with comparable health to the West are foreign run private hospitals. They’re far too costly for most local people.

Rural hospitals are a joke

These “well funded”’public hospitals you speak off. Name just one. You can’t can you?

Public hospitals are like airports. You queue up when you arrive and wait to be dealt with. Standards vary from hospital but even in major cities and even in the public hospitals you’d need to be going to the VIP areas. Even at that, it’s reasonably modern and standard of medics is higher than the public system

Make no bones about it, healthcare in China is NOT comparable with the western world.

I’ve visited China very regularly in the past and have attended a major hospital in a major city as a patient.

I have visited hospitals in China. Shanghai, Beijing and Shenzhen all have some brilliant hospitals. HK University hospital in Shenzhen is fantastic. Even in public hospitals in China I've never had to wait more than 30 minutes to see a doctor.

BTW are you including Ireland and HSE as part of the western world here? 🀭

all about the mane

boetstark wrote: »

Dear God, what is wrong with Ireland as a country. Why do we always end up with imbeciles in charge during times of crisis.
All rational evidence and expert opinions say curtail incoming flights and cancel mass gatherings.
No, Comical Ali Holohan and Varadkar know better.
We are being walked into a crisis once again by incompetence and ignorance,might as well put Paddy Neary in charge.

Except thats just not true....

Woodsie1

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Prob posted already but here we go again

https://twitter.com/KateABC7/status/1236061304831397888

It's a fcuking cruise ship!
What do you expect?
It's basically a floating hostel

Yurt2

kowloonkev wrote: »

I have visited hospitals in China. Shanghai, Beijing and Shenzhen all have some brilliant hospitals. HK University hospital in Shenzhen is fantastic. Even in public hospitals in China I've never had to wait more than 30 minutes to see a doctor.

BTW are you including Ireland and HSE as part of the western world here? 🀭

It's been a while since I was in a public hospital in mainland China (6+ years anyway); however the two ones I was in 1st tier cities were/ are not equivalent to the standard of care you would expect in Europe / N America in the least.

Realt Dearg Sec

owlbethere wrote: »

Bus stops are small spaces. I won't be standing in bus stops from now on. I will stand outside the bus stop and away from people.

And then get on the bus with them.

haydeyhi

Wonder how long till we have an AMA with someone who contracted it.

boetstark

all about the mane wrote: »

Except thats just not true....

Dr John crown leading oncologist in ireland
Carmen Regan chief obstetrician coomb
Kingston Mills professor of immunology at trinity also Chinese ambassador who probably has seen more of this virus than most here
Do I need to continue
We have Holohan a gp appointed by the boys trust, all he scan say is containment, wash your hands and we expected this.
Away with you.

blade1

owlbethere wrote: »

Bus stops are small spaces. I won't be standing in bus stops from now on. I will stand outside the bus stop and away from people.

How will u manage that on the bus?
Serious question as I'd like to know the best way of avoiding contamination on public transport.
Surely washing hands after won't be enough..or will it?

kowloonkev

Yurt! wrote: »

It's been a while since I was in a public hospital in mainland China (6+ years anyway); however the two ones I was in 1st tier cities were/ are not equivalent to the standard of care you would expect in Europe / N America in the least.

in what sense standard of care?

Away With The Fairies

Do people just have to look at each other in Italy to get this virus?

King of Spades

boetstark wrote: »

Dear God, what is wrong with Ireland as a country. Why do we always end up with imbeciles in charge during times of crisis.
All rational evidence and expert opinions say curtail incoming flights and cancel mass gatherings.
No, Comical Ali Holohan and Varadkar know better.
We are being walked into a crisis once again by incompetence and ignorance,might as well put Paddy Neary in charge.

Agreed, it’s ridiculous that the parades and associated events have not been cancelled.

Hopefully more Parades organisers - like the one in Youghal - start making the right decisions in the absence of any leadership from the ‘government’.

Yurt2

kowloonkev wrote: »

in what sense standard of care?

Woefully overcrowded and generally filthy. Witnessed an older gentleman getting administered a syringe in the backside by a nurse in the waiting area in full view of other patients.

Gael23

Funsterdelux wrote: »

The lambs arent babies when they are eaten here.

They are killed at 6 months I think

industry accountant

all about the mane wrote: »

Except thats just not true....

Absolute rubbish.

We are an island, if we had stopped flights coming in it wouldn't be here now.
Let any tourists here fly home, let any of our tourists abroad come back to quarantine until they were tested and cleared.
I can't believe this has to be explained to people.

Enough of this "we can't stop flights" crap.

Peoples lives are at risk, people are now going to die because of this and it could have been prevented if flights were stopped by us and the North.

There is no denying that.

faceman

kowloonkev wrote: »

I have visited hospitals in China. Shanghai, Beijing and Shenzhen all have some brilliant hospitals. HK University hospital in Shenzhen is fantastic. Even in public hospitals in China I've never had to wait more than 30 minutes to see a doctor.

BTW are you including Ireland and HSE as part of the western world here? 🀭

Get specific. What did you have treated in a public ward in a public hospital in China. And what did you get treated in a private hospital?

Heckler

Christ almighty. Yes a bunch of people are going to die. Those in the vulnerable groups. This mastabatory "end of the world" , "wait till the bodies start piling up up", circle jerks calm yer heels. Not the Black Death that ye are all hoping for. I think the 6 rolls of kleenex will do ya. Its like a liveline show with the hysteria.

****ing idiots.

faceman

Genuinely needed toilet paper this evening. In an area of California with no coronavirus. Here’s the shelf in my local grocery store.

ParkRunner

industry accountant wrote: »

Absolute rubbish.

We are an island, if we had stopped flights coming in it wouldn't be here now.
Let any tourists here fly home, let any of our tourists abroad come back to quarantine until they were tested and cleared.
I can't believe this has to be explained to people.

Enough of this "we can't stop flights" crap.

Peoples lives are at risk, people are now going to die because of this and it could have been prevented if flights were stopped by us and the North.

There is no denying that.

That’s a bit extremist. This virus could be around for several months and without a group of countries acting together and shutting down it’s going to spread in big numbers. That level of shutdown for several months would cripple this country.

ceadaoin.

faceman wrote: »

Genuinely needed toilet paper this evening. In an area of California with no coronavirus. Here’s the shelf in my local grocery store.

Yeah, every store I've been in this week has been emptied of toilet paper, water, hand sanitizer and disinfecting wipes. Severely low on cold meds and painkillers. Sorry but they are selfish pricks emptying shelves like that. Just saw a news clip of some guy at my local costco with so many trays of water he could barely push the cart. They need to start putting limits on how much people can buy.