Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

je551e

Just wondering what people think? Sick with a few days , headache , nosebleeds & ache all over . Sore throat and very slight cough. No temperature and haven’t been in contact that I know . Would you ring the HSE or does it sound completely different?

amadangomor

owlbethere wrote: »

I woke up with a cough and feeling chesty. I'm paranoid now. I don't feel sick. My movements have been fairly limited throughout the winter. I only made it into town once since Christmas. All my other movements have been local.

I bought a fancy thermometer during swine flu. No high temp. It's 36.6.

Fecking paranoid.

Have similar, chesty cough but no temperature. Had sore throat for couple of days but almost gone now. Headache yesterday for a couple of hours. Get a couple of head colds most years but haven't had a chesty cough in years.

According to the HSE we would not be tested as we haven't been to affected areas. I might ring them just to see can I get tested and see what they say.

CinemaGuy45

je551e wrote: »

Just wondering what people think? Sick with a few days , headache , nosebleeds & ache all over . Sore throat and very slight cough. No temperature and haven’t been in contact that I know . Would you ring the HSE or does it sound completely different?

Yes ring the HSE.

Flu like symptoms.

el Fenomeno

je551e wrote: »

Just wondering what people think? Sick with a few days , headache , nosebleeds & ache all over . Sore throat and very slight cough. No temperature and haven’t been in contact that I know . Would you ring the HSE or does it sound completely different?

HSE won't want anything to do with you unless you've (i) travelled to one of the "hotspot" regions on their website, or (ii) been in contact with a confirmed case.

For someone like you, they'll recommend you contact your GP as anyone would if they were feeling unwell.

Christy42

seamus wrote: »

Do a straw poll.among health professionals and you'll find 95%+ have attended work with "flu-like symptoms" at least once.

They are workers like the rest of us. They're under work pressure like the rest of us from their bosses and colleagues. They are reluctant to call in sick for the same reason the rest of us are.

What all of this says is that healthcare professionals need more robust and specific rules that will allow and encourage them to stay at home if they feel at all unwell, rather than take the risk to avoid paperwork or loss of pay.

You will also need a massive increase in investment. If the doctor calls in sick over a cough how many potentially ill people will go unseen by a professional. Most of home likely have something more serious. It can be done but it will involve a lot more taxes to hire staff and the public will have to accept that.

Bob24

faceman wrote: »

Again, incorrect. Foreign run private hospitals yes. Public hospitals less so. Rural hospitals are totally substandard. It’s not comparable with the West!

I went both to a public hospital and to a private hospital for foreigners in Beijing. The private one looked more fancy/luxurious like a private clinic in the West and was definitely much less crowded.

But I didn’t feel I was getting worst treatment at the public one than the time I had to spend they whole night on an uncomfortable chair waiting to see a doctor at the emergency department in Dublin. While the place was very busy, from a patient’s perspective the facilities didn’t look any worse than a public hospital here and the waiting time to see a doctor for a first assessment was actually much shorter.

Now I haven’t written a guidebook about Chinese hospitals (I guess none of us has and all we have is anecdotal experiences), but I am fairly confident your impression of them is overly negative. A close friend of mine also used to be a head nurse in a Chinese tier 1 city public hospital before working in hospitals here so she is an experienced health worker with knowledge of both systems. And while she’s no saying all is rosy one side or the other (she has different complaints about the Irish and Chinese systems) I have discussed this with her a few times and she definitely wouldn’t say there is a significant difference in terms of quality of care.

And of course we all know and agree hospitals in the countryside and lower tiered cities won’t be great at all and I wouldn’t like to get treatment there (Chinese people know that and go to larger cities for treatment if they can). But I believe the OP was referring to large higher tiered cities.

Also for the better or the worse, I believe many Chinese large public hospitals are partly run like private ones. Ie you do have to at least partly pay for treatment (with each patient having some kind of provincial government managed fund to cover these expenses partly of in full), and they rely on this for funding. This has good sides (they are incentivised to be more efficient and improve care quality to stand out) and bad sides (things like prescribing non-necessary test to get extra cash).

CrankyHaus

seamus wrote: »

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Closing down everything now would be like remortgaging your house to stock up on pasta and toilet roll.

There's a difference between "closing down everything" and closing down certain high risk mass gatherings to slow or prevent the spread of an epidemic.

It's hardly unprecedented to cancel St Patrick's Day events either. I remember we did it to successfully control the spread of foot and mouth disease and we haven't been paying for it ever since as you suggest.

silverharp

lol, how much toilet paper are you planning on using?

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1236221972624728070

amadangomor

haydeyhi wrote: »

Yes I do but where do you draw the line. People are only kicking up a fuss about the St. Patricks day parade because that's all they know that's on. They have no clue about the other stuff that's going in the country and the Patricks day parade is what they are focusing on.

ticketmaster.ie/browse/all-concerts-catid-10001/music-rid-10001

Have a look at whats on from ticketmaster and your worried about a single parade? The Script are playing today in the three arena which hosts 13,000 people and is sold out.

Should that be cancelled now as well? And that's indoors as well.

Get your point, was a bit hasty and overaggressive in my response, apologies:)

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

The HSE is a fooking mess everybody knows it.

People do not need an excuse.

Apparently they do need an excuse when they are criticising something that is very logical.

Drumpot

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

People in denial and not going to Google search something that proves they are in denial.:rolleyes:


Here is a video make it simple for them.:D

Rememeber what cinemaguy said

“I want Those beaches open on July 4th”



It’s happening all across Europe right now, they are saying “well of course thus is serious but let’s not be hasty.”

Achasanai

dunnerc wrote: »

Ive heard it all now , we are not an island Jesus wept :rolleyes:

The State isn't an island, in fairness. The context being that banning flights would be pointless as people could still enter from Northern Ireland (and any suggestion of Northern Ireland following with isolating itself from the UK hasn't been paying attention to the political situation up there recently).


Having said that, I do think banning flights into Ireland from particular countries is something that should be done. Sure, some people will find a way to get here, and with the current nature of Europe, they will find a way, but it will cut down on numbers significantly. It seems a no-brainer to me, but I think the powers-that-be are balancing the economy with those who will be infected/die and favouring the former (for now).

gozunda

haydeyhi wrote: »

If only things were that simple.

Well it's not certainly rocket science ...

amadangomor

je551e wrote: »

Just wondering what people think? Sick with a few days , headache , nosebleeds & ache all over . Sore throat and very slight cough. No temperature and haven’t been in contact that I know . Would you ring the HSE or does it sound completely different?

If you do ring them please post on here what they say.

Blueshoe

Are we over the worst of it now? I'd say we could be. 18 people out of millions isn't too bad.

frillyleaf

el Fenomeno wrote: »

HSE won't want anything to do with you unless you've (i) travelled to one of the "hotspot" regions on their website, or (ii) been in contact with a confirmed case.

For someone like you, they'll recommend you contact your GP as anyone would if they were feeling unwell.

I wonder if this is how the person ended up in GP with Covid19? It’s hard to know if you were in contact with someone particularly when locations are not being advised.

phater phagan

Blueshoe wrote: »

Are we over the worst of it now? I'd say we could be. 18 people out of millions isn't too bad.

???

ZX7R

seamus wrote: »

The thing that the panic merchants don't seem to accept that we're still on the early days of this virus. Figures from everywhere except China suggesting it's not as lethal or infectious as first believed.

We still have to play wait-and-see in terms of our response, and take precautions appropriate to what we know is the risk level.

Closing down everything now would be like remortgaging your house to stock up on pasta and toilet roll.
It might pay off, there's a small chance you've done exactly the right thing. But there's a much bigger chance that you've overreacted and will spend the next 3 decades paying for it.

The who released a statement about this last week and they concur with the paper released from from the Chinese.
Even in places that were in lock down the virus did not spread as much as predicted.
But they don't know why more study needed

amadangomor

phater phagan wrote: »

???

He supports Trump, nuff said

niallo27

Deleted User wrote: »

Irish people do not know what the flu is. They get a cold and call it the flu. I've had the flu maybe twice or three times in my life and the real flu will absolutely floor you and it is not uncommon to think you are dying. And that's without a deadly disease about.

Anyone with flu symptoms should isolate themselves and absolutely get tested.

Are you telling me my man flu wasnt serious, you sound just like my missus.

Christy42

Blueshoe wrote: »

Are we over the worst of it now? I'd say we could be. 18 people out of millions isn't too bad.

As a proponent of the don't panic side of things even I think this is ridiculously hopeful.

I mean I hope against hope it is correct but realistically this is here for a while.

Akrasia

gozunda wrote: »

Well it's not certainly rocket science ...

Lol. I love how you think this is such a black and white issue.

Fine, we should have shut off flights from Italy. But then it spread to France and Germany, shut off flights to there too, oh, now it’s in Northern Ireland, and the UK.... close all the borders!

Oh, we’re running out of medicines, fuel, raw materials,our economy has just collapsed, thousands of Irish people are stranded abroad.....

Hardly rocket science though....

Funsterdelux

Blueshoe wrote: »

Are we over the worst of it now? I'd say we could be. 18 people out of millions isn't too bad.

Id say so, sure all the top brass are off for the weekend, if it was a public health emergency Om sure theyd keep us informed over the weekend.

PhantomHat

Blueshoe wrote: »

Are we over the worst of it now? I'd say we could be. 18 people out of millions isn't too bad.

Yes that would be great. Unfortunately we are just starting off.

lawred2

Blueshoe wrote: »

Are we over the worst of it now? I'd say we could be. 18 people out of millions isn't too bad.

Urm...

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

SusanC10 wrote: »

Are people still going out and socialising?

Husband went to leaving drinks last night for a work colleague. Dublin. Had a couple of drinks and home reasonably early. Said numbers were down versus similar nights out previously.

I am going out tonight - locally for dinner with a group of my female friends.
Restaurant rang last night to confirm that we are still coming which wouldn't be the norm for this particular place.

Yes, I’m going out for dinner today for my birthday. I’m immunocompromised but I do not GAF.

Funsterdelux

Akrasia wrote: »

Lol. I love how you think this is such a black and white issue.

Fine, we should have shut off flights from Italy. But then it spread to France and Germany, shut off flights to there too, oh, now it’s in Northern Ireland, and the UK.... close all the borders!

Oh, we’re running out of medicines, fuel, raw materials,our economy has just collapsed, thousands of Irish people are stranded abroad.....

Hardly rocket science though....

Do tourists import all our essential goods?

phater phagan

amadangomor wrote: »

He supports Trump, nuff said

Thanks, that explains it.:eek:

retro:electro

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yes, I’m going out for dinner today for my birthday.

Happy Birthday!!

SeaBreezes

A 62-year-old man who became Spain’s first coronavirus patient is believed to have made a full recovery after being treated with an HIV drug, according to a report.

More good news..


https://nypost.com/2020/03/05/coronavirus-patient-in-spain-reportedly-recovers-after-being-treated-with-hiv-drug/amp/?__twitter_impression=true