Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

KWAG2019

Unease about measures taken to date continues to surface from medical professionals.

https://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/home/523207/open-letter-gp-registrar-concerned-over-the-spread-of-coronavirus-covid-19-and-ireland-s-early-response-to-it.html

otnomart

Mic 1972 wrote: »

This doesn't show the % of people who no health conditions

From the same report:

• 15.5% had 0 or 1 patologies
• 18.3% had 2 patologies
• 67.2% had 3 or more patologies

https://www.iss.it/coronavirus/-/asset_publisher/1SRKHcCJJQ7E/content/id/5286166

Kermit.de.frog

coffeepls wrote: »

No panic in Naas either. So you might have a prob getting those finicky little sanitisers. Everything else is there.

Total hype by the media and on social media. Stores are all fine where I am. Nothing unusual at all.

banie01

tillyfilly wrote: »

ftse and Dow Jones are flat today, humanity can breathe easy

Can you hazard a guess as to why?
I'll give you a clue, tmrw will be flat too!

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

VinLieger wrote: »

Literally the only way china could stop it, why is everyone so unwilling to do what is the most obvious? Cus it might be a bit difficult?

You can't stop it. It is ultimately not containable!

This is mild enough in many cases, for carriers to be asymptomatic. Many people will spread it without even knowing they have it.

It's not like SARS or H5N1 - where most people get severely ill. They are easy to identify and contain. This appears to be different. It's less predictable in it's severity.

PhantomHat

Good info

MadYaker

jackboy wrote: »

No but the majority of infections are due to droplets. Hand hygiene will only reduce infections to a small degree.

More lies. Why are you spreading misinformation? Or do you know better than all the scientists and doctors?

Don’t listen to morons like this guy and wash your fcuking hands people.

otnomart

gabeeg wrote: »

Maybe we should all visit Germany and get their version of coronavirus.

Europe already is getting the German version of Coronavirus


The strain in Europe is the same and originates from the first patient in Germany, or Bavaria Patient 1 (shortened in BavPat1)
Reseach has established the samples from (so far) Switzerland, Finland, Italy, Brazil and Mexico are all related to Bavaria Patient 1 , who was infected by a colleague from China.

Funsterdelux

gabeeg wrote: »

Maybe we should all visit Germany and get their version of coronavirus.

Like a global measles party

I think VW are compiling their data

BarryD2

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Of course it matters. Do you think the poo just disappears from the field and doesn't go into water sources.

Have a look at rates of infection of disease and child mortality in countries like India that open defecate. It's a huge public health problem

I don't wish to labour the point, but the original question was what (Irish) people did before soft bog paper. Not India.

The house we live in now had a family of 7 as far as I know in the mid 1900s before they got a bathroom under the county council scheme in the 1970s. They used potties and the corner of the field, they got their water from a separate spring. Nowadays we had a family of 6, we have a septic tank that drains to one part of the field and a bored well in another part. What's the difference, other than convenience?

dark crystal

Mic 1972 wrote: »

He clearly states that young people get sick and die too. There is no specific at risk category. Statistically older people die more easily, but young people are at risk of dying too

The age stats from deaths in Italy have now been posted a few times. Your claim has been rubbished.

Away With The Fairies

Blueshoe wrote: »

Admittedly i have made zero extra effort. Others around me have made zero extra effort by the looks of it too. I also travel the country quite a bit for work.

I have the potential to be a biological weapon.

I will try harder to follow recommended guidelines from Monday on though

Why follow from Monday onwards. Start now.

coffeepls

The leader of italy’s co ruling Democratic Party has just tested positive for Coronavirus.
https://www.rt.com/news/482566-italy-leader-of-co-ruling-coronavirus/

gabeeg

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Why follow from Monday onwards. Start now.

Ah c'mon let him be a biological weapon for one more day.

Don't be mean

MadYaker

Still only 18 cases? They are still playing catch up with testing I suspect. There will be larger increases in numbers to come I think.

Tootsie_1

Specialist in infectious diseases on Sky news now

jackboy

MadYaker wrote: »

More lies. Why are you spreading misinformation? Or do you know better than all the scientists and doctors?

Don’t listen to morons like this guy and wash your fcuking hands people.

I am repeating what scientists and doctors have said.

Calm yourself.

Mwengwe

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Before going off on a sinophobic rant you should realize that the so called Spanish Flu of 1918/19 which killed between 50 and 100 million people probably started in a pig farm in Kansas.

The swine-origin influenza which first appeared in 2009 was also first found in human beings in North America. Influenza is quite common in pigs, with about half of breeding pigs having been exposed to the virus in the US. It is estimated that in the 2009 flu pandemic 11–21% of the then global population (of about 6.8 billion), or around 700 million to 1.4 billion people, contracted the illness — more in absolute terms than the Spanish flu pandemic. However, with about 150,000–575,000 fatalities,

The fact is that pathogens have been making the jump from animals to humans for millennia. It's just a matter of chance where that happens and moaning about China now serves no useful purpose, it's here and we must deal with it.

BTW...DNA and RNA sequencing suggests that measles, smallpox, influenza, HIV, and diphtheria came to humans this way. Various forms of the common cold and tuberculosis also are adaptations of strains originating in other species.

I don't 'blame' the Chinese and it's a very difficult situation to legislate for, but epidemiologists have been expressing concern about wet markets for years now. ie if there's ever going to be a catastrophic pandemic, more than likely that's where it's going to start. Looking at some of the photos of these markets that's hard to argue with, it's a miracle it hasn't happened until now. Then again maybe epidemiologists are big xenophobes too?

mossie

I work in a public office. Yesterday we had a customer who stood in front of my colleague and sneezed, no effort to cover his mouth. Luckily there was a glass screen between them which was liberally coated with spit. We cleaned it with disinfectant wipes right away but if not it was on the surface to spread. There were others sneezing in their hands and then handling money. Most people will be careful but you have the few who will never take precautions or follow guidelines.

Mic 1972

otnomart wrote: »

From the same report:

• 15.5% had 0 or 1 patologies
• 18.3% had 2 patologies
• 67.2% had 3 or more patologies

https://www.iss.it/coronavirus/-/asset_publisher/1SRKHcCJJQ7E/content/id/5286166

Thanks, very interesting reading
Shocking how quickly it kills. 5 day average to get hospitalized, the 4 days average to die

Kermit.de.frog

MadYaker wrote: »

Still only 18 cases? They are still playing catch up with testing I suspect. There will be larger increases in numbers to come I think.

Its positive surely that there is only 18 cases.

I'm more positive about the situation in Ireland as we have yet to see any double digit increases. Pleasantly surprised with the figures yesterday, only 5.

We might get a few more through more testing but my gut feeling is it's looking good right now.

citysights

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Total hype by the media and on social media. Stores are all fine where I am. Nothing unusual at all.

My elderly mother came back from her weekly Tesco shop yesterday, girl at check out told here there is a mad run on people stocking up and toilet paper was number one item.,My mother was baffled as to why people were stocking up on toilet paper! I

iguana

Worldometers: re Italy wrote:

Among the 3,916 active cases, 2,394 (61%) are hospitalized, 462 of which (representing 12% of active cases) are in intensive care.

I'm very surprised that Italy are hospitalising so many people. We're hearing a lot of speculation about the pressure their health system is under but 49% of active cases are in hospital but not categorised as serious/critical. It seems like the Italian health care system is still in a position to be proactive about treatment rather than at breaking point.

screamer

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Its positive surely that there is only 18 cases.

I'm more positive about the situation in Ireland as we have yet to see any double digit increases. Pleasantly surprised with the figures yesterday, only 5.

We might get a few through more testing but my gut feeling is it's looking good right now.

Virus is a moving target Kermit, there’s far more out there than are being tested and detected, by the end of the week I’d say we’ll be close on 100, and we’ll still be playing catch-up.

LastFridayNight

KWAG2019 wrote: »

Unease about measures taken to date continues to surface from medical professionals.

https://www.leitrimobserver.ie/news/home/523207/open-letter-gp-registrar-concerned-over-the-spread-of-coronavirus-covid-19-and-ireland-s-early-response-to-it.html

That letter should be in the front page of every newspaper and stapled to Simon Harris’ head.

Away With The Fairies

I keep hearing people can be asymptomatic. If they have the virus and not showing signs, will they eventually end up with the symptoms?

Loafing Oaf

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Its positive surely that there is only 18 cases.

I'm more positive about the situation in Ireland as we have yet to see any double digit increases. Pleasantly surprised with the figures yesterday, only 5.

We might get a few more through more testing but my gut feeling is it's looking good right now.

Big issue is if it becomes rampant in UK it'll be very difficult to stop it spreading on a similar scale here

tillyfilly

just in aldi now, empty boxes everywhere

digitaldr

Maybe St Patrick's day should actually be cancelled/deferred - ie just make it another working day. Of course this wouldn't stop the influx of visitors.

Burty330

Thinking about procuring a shooter (or two) on the black market. The legality of it won't concern me if society falls into disarray.

Better you have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.