Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Miike

juno10353 wrote: »

Isnt it time that we had a 24/7 hospital service. A service where all departments work shifts. Exray, bloods, labs, theatres etc. Then maybe we could deal with backlogs, trolleys etc.

In situations as we now have labs would be working around the clock so many more people could be tested and either registered and monitored or cleared

Also a computerised hospital/medical system. Patients gp records instantly available to hospital and hospital records available to gp as takes place in Spain and other European countries. At present a patients records are not accessible to hospital computer after 6 months but are filed in paper form off site.
There are no centralised hospital computer records in Ireland.

All departments do run 24/7. It's not like they close up shop at 5 and say listen lads handle the rest your selves.

hmmm

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

HSE website says to go into a room with a phone and open window if you need to self isolate. What's the reason behind the open window?

Recycle the air and reduce the risk to anyone else who enters the room.

It's why we need to be opening all the windows on public transport (I suggest welding them open). Wear a bloody jumper if you're cold.

ArchXStanton

Anyone know why the Germans have 0 mortality rates? Surely they are doing something right

fritzelly

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Italy is also testing flue symptoms now and inside the red zone they test also people with no symptoms, but this is only recently. It wasn't the case until before the outbreak
Europe was in a bubble until 2 weeks ago

Every time someone uses the word flue an angel dies

t8010789

hmmm wrote: »

Recycle the air and reduce the risk to anyone else who enters the room.

It's why we need to be opening all the windows on public transport (I suggest welding them open). Wear a bloody jumper if you're cold.

That’s a draft idea

ACitizenErased

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

They banned flights from China on 31 January. Their case numbers only ballooned on 21 February.

I mean flights to/from Italy, after Feb 21st. Milan airport should be shut. There's no excuse as to why they're allowing people to move around freely, continuing the spread. If it wasn't for Italy, we'd have zero cases.

saabsaab

gabeeg wrote: »

Are you saying we can drink ourselves healthy?

Because that gives us a fighting chance of beating this thing

Watch 'Grabbers' tonight!

Jim_Hodge

Audrina Swift Showboat wrote: »

Where are all the recovered cases first hand accounts? I've read maybe two or three but that is all.

Nearly 60,000 living recovered cases, you'd think we would hear more from this side of things. Especially with social media, theres a ready platform for anyone who wants to tell others about their experience, but it's all been very quiet.

Wuhan still on lock down even now. Not much in the way of reporting coming from there either, with the exception of residents shouting fake, fake it's all fake the other day.

Some people exist for more than laying out their lives on social media. Maybe most of the recoveries had very mild symptoms and feel there's not much to tell. Who know?
If some were reported on it may help sooth some of the hysteria and reassure people that it may not be catastrophic. Details on symptoms, how they self isolated, treatment etc could cool some fears.

Miike

fritzelly wrote: »

Every time someone uses the word flue an angel dies

The only way this post could have been funnier is if you said "angle" :pac::pac::pac::pac:

NH2013

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Anyone know why the Germans have 0 mortality rates? Surely they are doing something right

Same reason we have no mortality rate. Surely we are doing something right?

juno10353

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I don't think there's anything special about recovered cases. Realistically any recovered cases probably had flu symptoms. Not something to really write about, to be fair.

Last reports stated that the Dr family only had one member suffering any symptoms and those were very mild. So 3 out of 4 had no symptoms at all.

iamwhoiam

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Anyone know why the Germans have 0 mortality rates? Surely they are doing something right

My guess is that they have more ECMO machines and ICU beds available

Strazdas

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Anyone know why the Germans have 0 mortality rates? Surely they are doing something right

One reason I've heard is they have a high number of intensive care beds - four times the rate of the NHS.

Call Me Jimmy

Miike wrote: »

The only way this post could have been funnier is if you said "angle" :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Maybe he typoed his typo

Titclamp

NH2013 wrote: »

Same reason we have no mortality rate. Surely we are doing something right?

Well Germans are dead inside anyway.

Mic 1972

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think it's fair to admit the Italians have made an absolute b*lls of this whole situation. They should have immediately put everything on lockdown and cancelled flights after seeing what happened in China when there was even an inkling of an outbreak.

Do you mean the EU and a whole should have put a flight ban to China before the outbreak? Other than that nothing would have stopped the outbreak in Europe, it could have happened anywhere. People traveled back from China all the way until February in the vast majority of the EU countries. Italy stopped the flights in January. it's was too late

Indestructable

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1236007745297539074

This chart shows precisely why the Chinese carried out the draconian measures in Wuhan when they did.

They let it go too far, realised what was coming and then acted. Now the Italians will need to follow their example.

ArchXStanton

NH2013 wrote: »

Same reason we have no mortality rate. Surely we are doing something right?

Yeah but I thought I read they had something like 1000 cases, we've got what? 19?

Lord Trollington

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

HSE website says to go into a room with a phone and open window if you need to self isolate. What's the reason behind the open window?

Fresh air maybe . Maybe they dont want people being put in a cage under the stairs .

Live at Three

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Talking to my architect this morning. He's going to Northern Italy in 3 weeks with family. Said if you calculate population of Italy by cases or Corona, and do same with Ireland, you're as safe in Italy as here. He's not cancelling trip, and he's a clever guy so I dunno what to think.

Did this guy design your house?

WhiteMemento9

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/epsilon3141/status/1236007745297539074

Parts of the country going into full lockdown from tonight.

Italy set to quarantine whole of Lombardy due to coronavirus

ACitizenErased

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Do you mean the EU and a whole should have put a flight ban to China before the outbreak? Other than that nothing would have stopped the outbreak in Europe, it could have happened anywhere. People traveled back from China all the way until February in the vast majority of the EU countries. Italy stopped the flights in January. it's was too late

I'm on about flights to/from Italy. If they had locked down the region completely and closed Milan airport, we (and many other European regions) would have no cases.

New Home

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Maybe he typoed his typo

What, flue? As in chimney?

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

Parts of the country going into full lockdown from tonight.

Yep.

Bob24

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

Parts of the country going into full lockdown from tonight.

Lets wait and see what they do before we call it "full lockdown" ...

SwordsRunner

fritzelly wrote: »

Every time someone uses the word flue an angel dies

If you have a flue in quarantine can you close the window?

saabsaab

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Anyone know why the Germans have 0 mortality rates? Surely they are doing something right

Germans are tough. Hard to kill a German.

NH2013

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think it's fair to admit the Italians have made an absolute b*lls of this whole situation. They should have immediately put everything on lockdown and cancelled flights after seeing what happened in China when there was even an inkling of an outbreak.

At the same stage we're at now?

Should we close all shops and businesses tomorrow, ground all flights, stop all schools and colleges, no cars/buses/trains, no GAA training, no public gatherings, everyone stay in their houses in order to make sure we don't spread it to other countries?

Wait, maybe that's ridiculously excessive. So if you're suggesting that Italy should have done that then 4 weeks ago, surely you expect us to do that now?

juno10353

Miike wrote: »

All departments do run 24/7. It's not like they close up shop at 5 and say listen lads handle the rest your selves.

Many departments run a more limited service out of hours eg labs, theatres, administration etc

Cilldara_2000

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm on about flights to/from Italy. If they had locked down the region completely and closed Milan airport, we (and many other European regions) would have no cases.

I think that may be a fair point. Many of the arguments against restricting air travel are from the POV of other places restricted flights from hot-spots. Some of them, eg people will travel anyway, would not apply in this case. How many of the ski-trips would have gone ahead for example?

I suspect they'd have been afraid of the economic impact. Whereas now when there's feck all coming or going (based on anecdotal reports of near empty planes) that ship has sailed.

ACitizenErased

NH2013 wrote: »

At the same stage we're at now?

Should we close all shops and businesses tomorrow, ground all flights, stop all schools and colleges, no cars/buses/trains, no GAA training, no public gatherings, everyone stay in their houses in order to make sure we don't spread it to other countries?

Wait, maybe that's ridiculously excessive. So if you're suggesting that Italy should have done that then 4 weeks ago, surely you expect us to do that now?

I said 'at the inkling of an outbreak'. We're not even close to an outbreak. 95% of our cases came from Italy. Their numbers ballooned on the 21st of February, and they didn't react.