Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

VinLieger

drkpower wrote: »

What would the Irish returnees have done had flights been stopped?

We could have organised repatriation flights and setup quarantine settings.

The answers to these kinds of questions are incredibly obvious and the only argument against them is it would have been difficult to do

gozunda

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/three-quarters-of-people-with-flu-have-no-symptoms/

This has already been discussed in thread. Many people with flu have little or no symptoms.

How would they know they had Influenza so?

I was replying to the rubbish that apparently all cases of influenza are "Not something to really write about"

That my friend is complete and utter horse****3. That's from first hand experience btw ...

Cilldara_2000

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Yes, they could. But we also could have zero cases as of right now if flights from Italy were stopped earlier.

If the whole world grounded flights as soon as the outbreak occurred in China, the whole thing would be sorted by now.

Half of us would be unemployed though.

Cilldara_2000

gozunda wrote: »

Hisxeoiod they know they had Influenza so?

I was replying to the rubbish that all cases of influenza are "Not something to really write about"

That my friend us complete and utter horse****3. That's from first hand experience btw ...

Sorry?

Titclamp

What about flights mid flight? Just leave them in the sky ta ****?!

Bey0nd

My company just sent out an email telling people not to come into the office next week and to work remotely for the foreseeable future. They specifically called out the HSE recommendations as inadequate and a serious threat to our business continuity strategy!

Heroditas

Bey0nd wrote: »

My company just sent out an email telling people not to come into the office next week and to work remotely for the foreseeable future. They specifically called out the HSE recommendations as inadequate and a serious threat to our business continuity strategy!

That is of absolutely no use unless you also limit going to the shops etc.

lainey_d_123

Audrina Swift Showboat wrote: »

Where are all the recovered cases first hand accounts? I've read maybe two or three but that is all.

Nearly 60,000 living recovered cases, you'd think we would hear more from this side of things. Especially with social media, theres a ready platform for anyone who wants to tell others about their experience, but it's all been very quiet.

Wuhan still on lock down even now. Not much in the way of reporting coming from there either, with the exception of residents shouting fake, fake it's all fake the other day.

Do you think it's some conspiracy theory?

What 'experience' do you think they have to talk about? They probably felt sh1te for a few days and then got better. It's not that exciting.

s7ryf3925pivug

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

If they want to go to any areas that are most affected by the virus let them go but don`t let them back into this country. Let them stay there.

Well they're quarantining Lombardy so this might be what happens.

Mervyn Skidmore

VinLieger wrote: »

We literally could have by implementing strict quarantine and flight and boat restrictions thanks to being a tiny island, but that would have required our leaders and the HSE chiefs to have balls, instead they are all too afraid of being criticised for making the wrong decision.

Except that Ireland isn't really a tiny island and that we have an international border on the island which means that an international agreement would have to have been reached to treat the island as a single area. That would have taken time and you can be sure that a certain cohort in the North would not have accepted it. People need to stop looking back. It's here, it was always going to make it here. Now we have to deal with it as best we can.

Osamabindipper

Bey0nd wrote: »

My company just sent out an email telling people not to come into the office next week and to work remotely for the foreseeable future. They specifically called out the HSE recommendations as inadequate and a serious threat to our business continuity strategy!

Why the bloody hell are they sending emails out on a Saturday night? Match them better to be put on the piss when they still can.

auspicious

Bey0nd wrote: »

My company just sent out an email telling people not to come into the office next week and to work remotely for the foreseeable future. They specifically called out the HSE recommendations as inadequate and a serious threat to our business continuity strategy!

Can you show it redacted?

Spanish Eyes

Just think about it all for a moment.

We have no Government, but we have a caretaker Government.

They can make laws and decide policy for this outbreak pro tem.

But no matter what they do it will never be right. I kind of get a bit of silence from FF and SF about this issue, would I be right or wrong there?

Hamsterchops

Bey0nd wrote: »

My company just sent out an email telling people not to come into the office next week and to work remotely for the foreseeable future. They specifically called out the HSE recommendations as inadequate and a serious threat to our business continuity strategy!

Hmm :cool:

With a population of just under five million, and only nineteen cases of Covid-19, maybe your employer is overeaceting just a tad?

If it was SARS I'd understand.

Cilldara_2000

Heroditas wrote: »

That is of absolutely no use unless you also limit going to the shops etc.

Someone making a short trip to their local shop and having no other personal interaction during the day other than their family/roomies is of lesser risk than making a longer trip to work, possibly by public transport and then spending the day interacting with co-workers.

ldy4mxonucwsq6

Bey0nd wrote: »

My company just sent out an email telling people not to come into the office next week and to work remotely for the foreseeable future. They specifically called out the HSE recommendations as inadequate and a serious threat to our business continuity strategy!

At least some of the businesses are thinking about contingency. I see a few large corporations have taken similar steps this week.

It is great to have the option to work from home where possible so they are right to be doing this to protect their staff and ensure that theres minimal impact to the company as well.

Unfortunately not enough companies/organisations will take these measures.

Mic 1972

Bey0nd wrote: »

My company just sent out an email telling people not to come into the office next week and to work remotely for the foreseeable future. They specifically called out the HSE recommendations as inadequate and a serious threat to our business continuity strategy!

Your company just sent an email on Saturday night?

saabsaab

drkpower wrote: »

What would the Irish returnees have done had flights been stopped?

Stayed on the Piste

PokeHerKing

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No elderly relatives in your family? Sick comment to make.

No need to be so sensitive, I merely meant 'lucky' in terms of when something comes along that kills at a high rate indiscriminately it will be the end of civilisation.

blackcard

The unpalatable truth is that there is a price put on life. Otherwise we would self isolate with the normal flu even though it has a mortality rate of 0.1%. We would introduce a speed limit of 30 mph. But our economy would go belly up if we did that and we would not be able to support the HSE or afford houses or our standard of living. So maybe you could argue that the Patrick's day festivities day should go ahead. But I would ban flights going to or coming from certain parts of Italy as the risks far outweigh the benefits. It might not prevent the spread of the virus but it would probably reduce the spread. It could be that you might have to do a similar ban for parts of France in a short while

VinLieger

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Just think about it all for a moment.

We have no Government, but we have a caretaker Government.

They can make laws and decide policy for this outbreak pro tem.

But no matter what they do it will never be right. I kind of get a bit of silence from FF and SF about this issue, would I be right or wrong there?

Also if we cant get a government what would be one of the stupidest things to do in the next 2 months?

ACitizenErased

blackcard wrote: »

The unpalatable truth is that there is a price put on life. Otherwise we would self isolate with the normal flu even though it has a mortality rate of 0.1%. We would introduce a speed limit of 30 mph. But our economy would go belly up if we did that and we would not be able to support the HSE or afford houses or our standard of living. So maybe you could argue that the Patrick's day festivities day should go ahead. But I would ban flights going to or coming from certain parts of Italy as the risks far outweigh the benefits. It might not prevent the spread of the virus but it would probably reduce the spread. It could be that you might have to do a similar ban for parts of France in a short while

The only reason it's still going ahead is money. Literally the only reason. It's sick.

Achasanai

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

Just say a clip of 3 women going at it over toilet paper in a store on the sky news site ... end of days kinda stuff ... did they ever here dog leafs more environmentally friendly

Whenever you see those end-of-days pandemic outbreak films, you never picture yourself as idling away your time looking at the pandemic thread on boards.



Yet here we are.


Oddly enough, flights to Milan through Ryanair are still really expensive. I would've thought they'd be giving them away.

New Home

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Hmm

With a population of just under five million, and only nineteen cases of Covid-19, maybe your employer is overeaceting just a tad?

If it was SARS I'd understand.

You DO know the full name of this virus, don't you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus_2

It's SARS-CoV-2

tillyfilly

Bey0nd wrote: »

My company just sent out an email telling people not to come into the office next week and to work remotely for the foreseeable future. They specifically called out the HSE recommendations as inadequate and a serious threat to our business continuity strategy!

On a Saturday? What about work /life balance ?

TimeToShine

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Hmm :cool:

With a population of just under five million, and only nineteen cases of Covid-19, maybe your employer is overeaceting just a tad?

If it was SARS I'd understand.

it's a liability and reputational thing, what's a couple of weeks/months of lowered productivity versus the absolute ****storm of someone bringing the virus into work and infecting others, there would be absolute hell to pay afterwards.

Every big company in London is telling their employees to bring their laptops home with them and giving laptops to those who need them, I think we will see mass WFH notices by the end of the coming week.

Achasanai

Audrina Swift Showboat wrote: »

Unfortunately not enough companies/organisations will take these measures.

A lot of organisations won't be able to.

Mic 1972

blackcard wrote: »

The unpalatable truth is that there is a price put on life. Otherwise we would self isolate with the normal flu even though it has a mortality rate of 0.1%. We would introduce a speed limit of 30 mph. But our economy would go belly up if we did that and we would not be able to support the HSE or afford houses or our standard of living. So maybe you could argue that the Patrick's day festivities day should go ahead. But I would ban flights going to or coming from certain parts of Italy as the risks far outweigh the benefits. It might not prevent the spread of the virus but it would probably reduce the spread. It could be that you might have to do a similar ban for parts of France in a short while

in Italy there are 100 infected every 1 million people, most of them probably already in quarantine or in hospital

You are more likely to get infected next week at the parade

juno10353

blackcard wrote: »

t I would ban flights going to or coming from certain parts of Italy as the risks far outweigh the benefits. It might not prevent the spread of the virus but it would probably reduce the spread. It could be that you might have to do a similar ban for parts of France in a short while

How soon before Ireland finds itself on that list too

ldy4mxonucwsq6

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

Do you think it's some conspiracy theory?

What 'experience' do you think they have to talk about? They probably felt sh1te for a few days and then got better. It's not that exciting.

No I don't think it's conspiracy, but it is something that puzzles me.

In a world where people are only too happy to put everything out there, why are we not hearing more about the survivors?

All we know about this whole thing is being fed to us by the media and the occasional rumour.

Realistically we are only being given the information that they want us to have. A number of people who were documenting life from the epicentre have disappeared.

Where is the real journalism in all this?