Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

US2

Talisman wrote: »

The majority of cases in Florida appear to be the result of retirees taking foreign trips. A cruise on the Nile River in February accounted for 5 of the cases, including 1 death. 5 more cases are from a group that returned from a trip to China. There is no evidence yet that the virus is spreading within the local population.

Ah, just like Ireland the disease cant spread locally.

Drumpot

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Finished watching a few videos on YouTube, husbands and wifes on the diamond princess, only one of them positive. Surely you would expect both to be positive but nope only one.

So I don't understand how one is and isn't.

I guess some couples maintain 2 meters distance from each other and aren’t around their spouses for more then 15 minutes at a a time :pac:

breadmonster

Italy has the 2nd best healthcare in the world
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/

we have the second lowest number of intensive care beds in the europe just behind andorra, if this does take off here i think we in trouble
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESIhs9PX0AEcQAg?format=jpg&name=large

Interesting germany has nearly the same number of cases as france and 0 deaths

1641

Darc19 wrote: »

Non hysterical common sense posts are not wanted by most people here.

They want death deaths and more death so that they can say "I told you so"

I don't know about whatever post you were referring to. But talk about hysterical nonesense in your own post.

Gods Gift

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Comic Con in the city next weekend, they're going ahead with it.

Never underestimate the nerd gene.

Hamsterchops

cnocbui wrote: »

I see you bought a Honda too.

A Honda?

zell12

Comment that the US health system is totally disjointed, if it takes hold there, serious problems.
CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett explains the long-term dangers of the Covid-19 coronavirus - saying it's the scariest outbreak he's dealt with in his 20-year career

cnocbui

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Finished watching a few videos on YouTube, husbands and wifes on the diamond princess, only one of them positive. Surely you would expect both to be positive but nope only one.

So I don't understand how one is and isn't.

Super immune system ponced early and it didn't get enough of a hold for there to be many antibodies?

OMD

Glenbhoy wrote: »

That's not what it says, it also gives no source to the numbers.
Before each number it says 'at least', so when it says that of 197 deaths, at least 49 were aged 62 - 95, my reading of that is that we don't know what age the remainder were.

Also, people mentioning the death rate in Italy v South Korea should bear in mind the differences in demographics in the two countries and that in South Korea, the presumed main source was a meeting of a religious group populated by mainly young people, whereas in Italy, unnoticed community transmission for several weeks led to people being hospitalised with the virus, but not isolated, which led to cases in hospitals where those infected already had underlying conditions. Imo Italy has been extremely unlucky with this.
The Korean testing rates may also be a factor, but the mortality rate isn't as important as the absolute number in terms of deaths.

Italian death rate is high because they are not testing.
South Korea is testing and diagnosing and therefore has a much lower death rate which is likely to be the actual death rate we will see in Ireland (0.6%).

On the Diamond Princess ship for example they had 696 confirmed cases because they tested everyone. However they only had 6 deaths or 0.86%. People on Cruise Ships are generally older and more likely to be in an at risk group so again this indicates the overall death rate will be far lower than Italy is experiencing.

c.p.w.g.w

breadmonster wrote: »

Italy has the 2nd best healthcare in the world
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/best-healthcare-in-the-world/

we have the second lowest number of intensive care beds in the europe just behind andorra, if this does take off here i think we in trouble
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESIhs9PX0AEcQAg?format=jpg&name=large

Interesting germany has nearly the same number of cases as france and 0 deaths

Per capita we have the same number of bed as the NHS i believe

cnocbui

Hamsterchops wrote: »

A Honda?

Yes. I have owned a string of Fiats and then bought a Honda. Going from Fiat quality to Honda quality and reliability, I will never go back.

banie01

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Comic Con in the city next weekend, they're going ahead with it.

I say this as a nerd, and an attendee on multiple occasions.
If containing the spread of this virus will be reliant upon hygiene...

We
Are
Doomed!

Because there is a significant amount of shower Dodgers in that particular cohort!
How do ya hide money around an Anime fan?
Just leave it under the soap :P

irishgeo

The heat arguement isnt that it stops the virus. It's that the virus doesn't live as long on surfaces as it would during the winter therefore reducing the spread.

coastwatch

Quick calculation of current (active) cases per million population,

Iceland 147 per million (pop 340,000)
South Korea 140
Italy 87
Iran 49
Switzerland 30
Norway 29
China 17
Sweden 16
Belgium 15
France 14
Austria 12
Netherlands 11
Spain 10
Singapore 9
Germany 9
Ireland 4
Estonia 4
Japan 3
Denmark 3
UK 3
Israel 2
Portugal 2
Czech Republic 2
Canada 1
USA 1
Poland 0 (0.16)

cnocbui

OMD wrote: »

Italian death rate is high because they are not testing.
South Korea is testing and diagnosing and therefore has a much lower death rate which is likely to be the actual death rate we will see in Ireland (0.6%).

On the Diamond Princess ship for example they had 696 confirmed cases because they tested everyone. However they only had 6 deaths or 0.86%. People on Cruise Ships are generally older and more likely to be in an at risk group so again this indicates the overall death rate will be far lower than Italy is experiencing.

There has been a seventh death so the rate is now 1%

Hamsterchops

Ireland 4 cases per million...
Population of 4.7 million people.
19 confirmed cases in Ireland.

Drumpot

coastwatch wrote: »

Quick calculation of current (active) cases per million population,

Iceland 147 per million (pop 340,000)
South Korea 140
Italy 87
Iran 49
Switzerland 30
Norway 29
China 17
Sweden 16
Belgium 15
France 14
Austria 12
Netherland 11
Spain 10
Singapore 9
Germany 9
Ireland 4
Estonia 4
Japan 3
Denmark 3
UK 3
Israel 2
Portugal 2
Czech Republic 2
Canada 1
USA 1
Poland 0 (0.16)

I’d be really interested to see the test ratio (to population) along with those figures .

Away With The Fairies

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Population of 4.7 million people.
19 confirmed cases in Ireland.

19 that we know of. There's way more people walking around with it and not knowing.

Funsterdelux

Just a note on how serious other places are taking it. In Macau they closed the casino for around a week, imagine that, billions of revenue they sacrificed for the common good, they just had 10 cases!

cnocbui

irishgeo wrote: »

The heat arguement isnt that it stops the virus. It's that the virus doesn't live as long on surfaces as it would during the winter therefore reducing the spread.

There are claims that most transmission is via aerial droplets, so ...

MadYaker

Hotels in Dublin for paddy’s day are still expensive. I was hoping they’d have gotten cheaper

Lobsterlady

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Comic Con in the city next weekend, they're going ahead with it.

Yep I'm supposed to be bringing two 13yr olds to it, at least they have weird anime costumes with gloves and masks and goggles!

irishgeo

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

19 that we know of. There's way more people walking around with it and not knowing.

You any actual proof? Not whatsapp rumours or boards.

irishgeo

cnocbui wrote: »

There are claims that most transmission is via aerial droplets, so ...

Claims without a source is made up bulli****.

Cork Boy 53

circadian wrote: »

Phone them. Constantly, call their offices. Emails will simply be ignored and given what we're dealing with protests seem to be very counter productive so the government has that to hide behind. Literally anything else and people mobilising on the streets would put pressure on them but clearly not a good idea in this case.

If you're worries about the direction we're heading call your TDs, all of them, regardless of vote and do it regularly.

Good luck with that. The geniuses in the PBP brigade thought it was a great idea to organise a protest march in Dublin city centre yesterday against FF/FG. This is the mentality of some of what you`re dealing with.

Bob24

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Just a note on how serious other places are taking it. In Macau they closed the casino for around a week, imagine that, billions of profits they sacrificed for the common good, they just had 10 cases!

Yeah Macau is a bit of a crazy place where casino amont for 40% of GDP! I don’t think any of us can even comprehend what the equivalent would be here in term of impacts.

Green farmer

OMD wrote: »

Italian death rate is high because they are not testing.
South Korea is testing and diagnosing and therefore has a much lower death rate which is likely to be the actual death rate we will see in Ireland (0.6%).

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Can they make a cheap mass produced, disposable test kit ? Sell them for a euro or two. Available from the chemist. Then everyone could test themselves at the slightest cough and would stop the spread, as you wouldn't be walking around undiagnosed.

pjohnson

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Good luck with that. The geniuses in the PBP brigade thought it was a great idea to organise a protest march in Dublin city centre yesterday against FF/FG. This is the mentality of some of what you`re dealing with.

And how many are FG planning to march in Dublin on Paddy's Day?

OMD

cnocbui wrote: »

There has been a seventh death so the rate is now 1%

Looking at Europe as a whole but excluding Italy. Based on WHO report from yesterday there have been 2856 cases confirmed with 17 deaths or again 0.6% like the South Koreans experienced.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200307-sitrep-47-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=27c364a4_2

Funsterdelux

pjohnson wrote: »

And how many are FG planning to march in Dublin on Paddy's Day?

Theyll be fine sitting on an artic trailer 3 metres away from everyone