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Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The HSE come across so badly. Acting cagey, being dismissive, you would swear they were trying to do a cover up.
    They are DoH, not HSE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Your man in ICU Cork was discharged from hospital last week apparently

    Edit: as in before being admitted again recently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    No body really knows what this viral disease is because it's so new. There's reports of reinfection etc. It takes so long to get better from it, if you do. If it won't kill you, you might end up on anti viral drugs - for how long? For life?
    This has to be stopped, and nothing short of a world war 2 type of lock down all around Europe will do it, to stop the spread of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Jin luk


    Was runaways out foreign did he say? Is he the case in cork i wonder? Everything should of being shut down from the start ive said over and over from the early cases of italy, fact is europe is more or less a big country with easy accessible travel, was always going to spread quick once it got started.

    Really disturbing though that it has jumped by 7 cases on the 6th day, could anyone say what numbers of mild or servere cases we have?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Its not Ebola

    I am sick of seeing this.

    Ebola was transferred through direct/indirect contact with bodily fluids.

    It is a disease that was spread primarily in Africa through incredibly poor hygiene, the way that people handled bodies when relatives had died (kissing the bodies, moving them without gloves, leaving them out in the open as well as people walked by) and negligible, to say the least, healthcare.

    It was never a serious threat to the West.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    If you have it then you shouldn't be commuting anyway

    People can't afford to be off sick. They'll still commute and go to work etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Community transmissions is not community transmission because we know where it came from

    Jaysus these guys are incredulous

    I think its worse, they think the public believe them.
    Or the public don't have critical thinking facilities...


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 johnmcdon


    Reported from Department of Health today"HSE Specialist in Public Healthcare Medicine Dr Sarah Doyle told a press conference in Dublin that healthcare professionals will now be asked not to return to work for 14 days after travelling to such regions, depending on where they have been.

    Dr Doyle said this was because health professionals interact with vulnerable patients and it was important to minimise risks.

    Almost all have been associated with travel from northern Italy, which has been the hardest hit area in Europe."
    Talk about after the horse has bolted.
    The Doctor who has it in Clare worked in A&E after coming back and held his full clinics...pure daft.
    Schools are still going to Italy on skiing holidays.
    We should close all the schools now and return on 18th March. Ban all travel to Northern Italy.
    Anyone who returns should self isolate.
    Government has to get its act together...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,320 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    Ah get a grip, in fairness up to the UHC case it was all East and West really from HSE.

    Me, get a grip! What’s the UHC??


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,385 ✭✭✭lainey_d_123


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Do you think people who potentially have cases and a sniffle won't commute?

    Bill's have to be paid. They will.

    Yep. My boss is downplaying it completely and refusing to allow everyone who wants to to work from home, even though we could do it no bother. If everyone with any kind of cold or flu symptoms stayed at home for a week or two, it would surely help massively in stopping the spread.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    This is really wrong-headed. Ireland is so small that you should simply assume you will be in contact with people with COVID19 as it is now circulating in the community. The idea that you’d be safe in Louth or Donegal if it was in CUH is incorrect.

    Containment is done, you need to assume it is circulating and that 12 months now roughly 2/3rd of the population will have had it with a commensurate death rate. That works out to roughly 40,000.

    If we are lucky and really socially isolate it’ll be much lower but I can’t see it being less than 2,000 over the course of the year.

    So there is no point obsessing over whether it is in Cork or Galway or Louth. It is in Ireland, it is in the community and you need to behave as though people you interact with on a daily basis have it no matter where you live.

    I was just thinking the same. How long are people going to obsess over the new numbers at 9pm every evening? It's here to stay. And there is no point shouting for Italian flights to be stopped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Has the virus spread to Africa?
    Yes and South Africa had its first case today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    I am sick of seeing this.

    Ebola was transferred through direct/indirect contact with bodily fluids.

    It is a disease that was spread primarily in Africa through incredibly poor hygiene, the way that people handled bodies when relatives had died (kissing the bodies, moving them without gloves, leaving them out in the open as well as people walked by) and negligible, to say the least, healthcare.

    It was never a serious threat to the West.

    Follow the thread back

    It was a joke

    Jeez


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    I missed it, what was asked and what answer was given?
    Off the top of my head,

    Roughly how many tests can you do?

    Tests will be done in accordance with procedure, in that only close contacts of confirmed cases are currently being monitored. The number tested is to be announced weekly as per previous information.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Can't understand how some people believe a department that can't handle day to day running of the health service will suddenly be able to handle this.
    Fantasy land

    In a way we all share some blame. We have been very apathetic to their failings.

    Think Cervical Check and National Children's Hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    leahyl wrote: »
    That’s the second time you’ve said that now - what’s your issue with Cork being named? Was Clare and Dublin not named with the other cases?
    Not by the HSE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,302 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Just looking at the stats for Italy...41 deaths in 24 hours...that is a pretty scary figure imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    irishgeo wrote: »
    What did people expect the HSE to do? Some of the talk here is just **** talk.

    People raging about flights from Italy. All these people were irish. We can't leave our citizens to be looked after by other countries. Good to see the amount cured increasing. The snowflakes generation we have here is fuelling the panic. Only 0.00027% of the population are infected.

    Macho Bol*X. The percentage you quote is only those tested, tip of the iceberg. If you have elderly parents or a condition yourself you'd be concerned.

    We could quarantine citizens returning from hotspots at the airport. If you ban flights to these areas there'll be no one to return.

    Oh throw snowflake in for a few likes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,525 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Tomato1 wrote: »
    We definitely can't give up on containment. Most of the hospitals around my region have set aside 1-2 isolation rooms.

    probably under 50 beds in the country if I'd hazard a guess.

    Unfortunately this pandemic is also having a massive knock on effect on other medical procedures and emergencies. The side-effects alone are going to have massive health implications.
    and we were already struggling with waiting lists and lack of resources. This is just the cherry on top.

    Why cant whole wards be setup as isolation areas for minor cases.
    China had gym etc converted for minor cases.


  • Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭Pseudonym121


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Bull**** numbers. There is absolutely nothing to back up that kind of infection and death rate.

    There's enough people panicking without this kind of nonsense speculation.

    WHO says the expect somewhere between 40 to 70% of the worlds population to be infected over the next 12 months or so.

    The UK’s “reasonable worst case scenario” is 500,000 dead. The UK government released this information on Tuesday.

    If you translate that number to Ireland it ends up as a little under 50,000. Now it shouldn’t be that high but people expecting a just dozens of deaths are deluding themselves.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭WhatsGoingOn2


    wadacrack wrote: »
    I was thinking of moving their. Will have to be the Faroe Islands or Aran

    There is 1 case in the Faroe Islands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Is there a link to the press briefing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,061 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Wouldn’t hurt.

    It actually could oh I am wearing a mask and gloves all safe now I can do what I want. Then take of 1 glove with a glove hand the 2nd with a bare hand and then touch something that might hold the virus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,320 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Not by the HSE.

    Well then I would imagine they mentioned Cork since the case is in a hospital....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭Christy42


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    But we’re going to have 2/3rds of the population infected very soon.. despite this happening absolutely nowhere else, and most the countries with infections that we’ve seen have followed a similar graph!

    But yes 2/3rd very shortly with 100s of thousands dead


    A little piece of perspective and a deep breath wouldn’t go amiss here

    Don't forget that it is obviously widespread in Ireland cos of lack of testing but that we should stop anyone from crossing borders to stop a disease that is here already from coming in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,924 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    The fact that patient in CUH was a patient earlier in the week and previously discharged should be quite worrying given the incubation period.

    The patient could have acquired the illness as a patient.
    He could have acquired it in the wider community.

    However given that the HSE have said all personnel involved in the patient's care will be self isolating now for 14 days, with the commensurate loss of their labour!

    The HSE really need to consider implementation of barrier nursing protocols.
    Whatever else happens, our medical and care staff need to be given the highest level of protection possible.

    If that means being treated by staff in appropriate PPE, then get it in place.

    Dr Honohan on RTÉ at the moment really is a Golem, their is no cogent argument for the stance being taken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I wonder if anyone has done any calculation to estimate the true number of infected in Northern Italy that would be needed in order to export the number of infections that it has. Theres about 6 or 7 in Ireland alone? Think Iceland has over 20 infections from Northern Italy, must be at least 200 or 300 known cases of tourists contracting it there worldwide now


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    All 4 of us in my household have colds, or what we think is colds anyway

    East Galway


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    WHO says the expect somewhere between 40 to 70% of the worlds population to be infected over the next 12 months or so.

    The UK’s “reasonable worst case scenario” is 500,000 dead. The UK government released this information on Tuesday.

    If you translate that number to Ireland it ends up as a little under 50,000. Now it shouldn’t be that high but people expecting a just dozens of deaths are deluding themselves.

    If those 40-70%, I wonder how many will even know they had it unless they are tested.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Computer Science Student


    I said it yesterday and it looks like I was right, they are still hiding many cases. There was as many as 50 yesterday evening, who knows how many there are now. They just can't announce them until they do a second test to reduce false positive rate and a meeting has been held to discuss the plan of action / PR announcement. The whole thing is farcical, no urgency to get the information out at all.


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