Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Snow Garden

ChikiChiki wrote: »

In a way we all share some blame. We have been very apathetic to their failings.

Think Cervical Check and National Children's Hospital.

Think bloated management, unions, decades of trolley crisis, bureaucracy, coverups, astronomical waste.

Funsterdelux

Sharon is under time constraints on the news, youd think theyd make an exception for an epidemic.

Quantum Erasure

are we still in a containment phase?

Chong

Question.. At what point are we no longer in a containment phase?

um7y1h83ge06nx

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Sharon is under time constraints on the news, youd think theyd make an exception for an epidemic.

Absolutely, thought that was gas.

circadian

As much as we laughed at the whole Brexit debacle, and let's be honest, Brexit is a total ****show. We're now making a similar balls up of this while the Brits appear to be at least honest and upfront and handling it a lot better.

Tomato1

irishgeo wrote: »

Why cant whole wards be setup as isolation areas for minor cases.
China had gym etc converted for minor cases.

This is the kind of infection that require isolation rooms. A big flu ward would only exacerbate the issue i'd imagine. It'd be a big petri-dish and any staff working there would contract it also which is what happened in China.


But I'd imagine it would eventually come to this if needed. There no shortage of empty wards sitting idle in hospitals around the country.

Lashes28

Where's Graces7? Hope she's ok on the island

Spanish Eyes

leahyl wrote: »

Me, get a grip! What’s the UHC??

Sorry it is CUH. Same thing and I think you know what I meant. But anyway, no worries. For me anyway.

joe_99

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

WHO says the expect somewhere between 40 to 70% of the worlds population to be infected over the next 12 months or so.

The UK’s “reasonable worst case scenario” is 500,000 dead. The UK government released this information on Tuesday.

If you translate that number to Ireland it ends up as a little under 50,000. Now it shouldn’t be that high but people expecting a just dozens of deaths are deluding themselves.

Hysterical

martingriff

antodeco wrote: »

Why did the HSE need to wait to tell GPs (let alone anybody) to self isolate for 14 days when returning from an infected area. This should have been the first thing that was said. That's the only way you could have actually contained this. They are morons.

This is a case that got me the most angry surely as a GP he should have known to self isolate especially if he was anyway sick given his job especially doing shannondoc

amadangomor

Have my first chest infection in years. Accompanied by a sore throat. Talk about bad timing. Would call in sick tomorrow but have essential work to do. Probably just a cold but would make you think seeing as I work in a multinational with workers from all over the World.

tillyfilly

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

are we still in a containment phase?

yes the entertainment phase is over !

owlbethere

johnmcdon wrote: »

Reported from Department of Health today"HSE Specialist in Public Healthcare Medicine Dr Sarah Doyle told a press conference in Dublin that healthcare professionals will now be asked not to return to work for 14 days after travelling to such regions, depending on where they have been.

Dr Doyle said this was because health professionals interact with vulnerable patients and it was important to minimise risks.

Almost all have been associated with travel from northern Italy, which has been the hardest hit area in Europe."
Talk about after the horse has bolted.
The Doctor who has it in Clare worked in A&E after coming back and held his full clinics...pure daft.
Schools are still going to Italy on skiing holidays.
We should close all the schools now and return on 18th March. Ban all travel to Northern Italy.
Anyone who returns should self isolate.
Government has to get its act together...

The same thing happened in America from a care worker in a nursing home.

namloc1980

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

are we still in a containment phase?

No change in approach.

irishgeo

Naggdefy wrote: »

Macho Bol*X. The percentage you quote is only those tested, tip of the iceberg. If you have elderly parents or a condition yourself you'd be concerned.

We could quarantine citizens returning from hotspots at the airport. If you ban flights to these areas there'll be no one to return.

Oh throw snowflake in for a few likes.

What's to stop the guy in italy driving into Germany and flying home from there.

Those tested? We dont have the figures for tests done? The figure we have is the confirmed cases.
Stop scaring people.

Frank Bullitt

Listened to David McWilliams podcast and he had Professor Luke O'Neill on it. He explained things clear and concise.

I am not even remotely worried anymore now.

I recommend people in here do the same.

Quantum Erasure

tillyfilly wrote: »

yes the entertainment phase is over !

i thought we were still in the containment phase

Sawduck

The government and HSE refusing to tell us where the confirmed cases are will cause more cases, it's going to get much worse and the HSE don't have a clue how to handle it

wakka12

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/coronavirus-washington-cases-increase-70-death-toll-increases-11/XIDPHMLVOJAAREQ5YCL75367PU/
Several more deaths in the Seattle area, 11 there now, 12 in the US overall.

Logan Roy

Sawduck wrote: »

The government and HSE refusing to tell us where the confirmed cases are will cause more cases, it's going to get much worse and the HSE don't have a clue how to handle it

Why? Are you going to avoid everywhere that a case is announced?

fr336

I know people are worried but putting the boot into the Irish government and health service in particular may be anger just for the sake of it. Which major countries aren't having cases? Daily the rates are going up everywhere. It's not the Irish government's fault for this, I lay the blame squarely at China's door.

fritzelly

Chong wrote: »

Question.. At what point are we no longer in a containment phase?

When 51% of the population have it

lawrencesummers

Maddox Jealous Yard wrote: »

Off the top of my head,

Roughly how many tests can you do?

Tests will be done in accordance with procedure, in that only close contacts of confirmed cases are currently being monitored. The number tested is to be announced weekly as per previous information.

So they haven’t a clue.
It’s pretty obvious that the more testing you do the more cases you will find.

IE.
It’s not true to say that there is one person infected in cork, Because that person didn’t travel to an infected region means that they got it from someone that has yet gone undetected, but is carrying and transmuting the virus.

So we can say with a clear degree of certainty that there are two cases in Cork, one detected and one not.

gmisk

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Sharon is under time constraints on the news, youd think theyd make an exception for an epidemic.

What the hell was that about?!
Instead they jump to FF and FG pussyfooting around each other....ffs who gives a toss with all that is going on!

leahyl

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Sorry it is CUH. Same thing and I think you know what I meant. But anyway, no worries. For me anyway.

No worries here either, was just intrigued as to why you were latching onto the whole “Cork being named” thing...anyway sure no hard feelings :-)

Ludo

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

But Mary L is in self isolation so she knows the score, and fair dues to her for putting her family first. We would all do this.

So who was that I just saw on the news talking the Dail today? So much for self-isolation.

Nijmegen

amadangomor wrote: »

Have my first chest infection in years. Accompanied by a sore throat. Talk about bad timing. Would call in sick tomorrow but have essential work to do. Probably just a cold but would make you think seeing as I work in a multinational with workers from all over the World.

Are you that important, really, that you’ll risk your health and someone else’s, and someone else they’ll meet beyond that who may not be in fit fiddle?

tillyfilly

Logan Roy wrote: »

Why? Are you going to avoid everywhere that a case is announced?

if you know your neighbor has it you might act differently to avoid it

Pseudonym121

ITman88 wrote: »

Where ya get the figure of 2k from?

That’s just looking at the worst case scenario and then reducing mortality rates based on assuming social isolation and medical care reduces risk as well as the arrival of a vaccine (under compassionate use grounds) before the winter ( which is when mortality should really spike ).

Background. Consultant in the HSE and lectured in epidemiology and medical statistics in University. I certainly don’t know everything but I’m not pulling numbers out of my ass, they’re considered based on decades working in hospitals.