Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

ben.schlomo

topmanamillion wrote: »

Some of the absolute head the balls on Prime time tonight. One woman hasn't left the house in 2 days!!
Another ones afraid of her husband because he's "on public transport alot and he hasn't the sense to be washing his hands all the time".

This kind of thing really bring these ones to the surface.

It was her son who has special needs that that woman spoke about. Keep up.

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lainey_d_123 wrote: »

that's because people like you are fcking stockpiling everything!!!!!

Started early December as soon as news broke in Wuhan, and now complete. Which would have been the ideal situaiton for half of the population to be in.
I won't need to purchase until after mid-summer.

The big problem now, is that everyone <7/14days, will start a sudden-surge purchase spree, and create a proper supply demand conflict (shipping can't respond to this action).

A 'graduated' supply chain increase (that I support/ed), is the ideal and perfect scenario, not what's going to happen now.
I.e. the irregular, sudden and total opposite of sensible and 'graduated'.

At least there'll be a few us (more prepeared) not blocking up the checkouts.
You're welcome.

Doctor Jimbob

topmanamillion wrote: »

Some of the absolute head the balls on Prime time tonight. One woman hasn't left the house in 2 days!!
Another ones afraid of her husband because he's "on public transport alot and he hasn't the sense to be washing his hands all the time".

This kind of thing really bring these ones to the surface.

It's an absolute disgrace that Joe Duffy hasn't been on liveline for the past few days. Could have been some of the best entertainment in years and he left us in our hour of need.

ChikiChiki

Hurrache wrote: »

Ffs, are you at the pont of blaming a news anchor?

The country has gone demented.

Overreaction all round.

Just think about it.

A doctor returned from Northern Italy and was allowed work in the most overcrowded A&E in the country has now tested for coronavirus putting lots of vulnerable people and their families at risk.

I'm pissed. The media need to be all over that. What an absolute ****ing sham of a failing.

tom1ie

Do we know the age profile of the Newley infected cases?

UsBus

Hey Miriam, who is the Chinese ambassador again..??😂😂😂 Say it under your breath one more time...!!!!!

gmisk

Funsterdelux wrote: »

:pac:

I am waiting for the Troy McClure information commerical about corona...I doubt it will be as good as the classic ...lead paint delicious but deadly

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topmanamillion wrote: »

Some of the absolute head the balls on Prime time tonight. One woman hasn't left the house in 2 days!!
Another ones afraid of her husband because he's "on public transport alot and he hasn't the sense to be washing his hands all the time".

This kind of thing really bring these ones to the surface.

Eh, it seems like a reasonable response to me. Also as i think someone pointed out, I'm sure she said it was her special needs son she was talking about?

Nonoperational

TheQuietBeatle wrote: »

What worries me most besides infecting my elderly parents is apparently it causes scarring on the lungs even if cured? That freaked me out as could be life long health implications.

Not necessarily at all.

jam_mac_jam

amadangomor wrote: »

I haven't decided what I am doing yet. It's probably a cold ffs. Edit I'm out of this thread it seems to be attracting the wrong sort now. And grow up with your passive aggresive ****e.

It probably is a cold but it might not be. You are being incredibly selfish. The wrong sort? Truth hurts

Pseudonym121

drunkmonkey wrote: »

A well respected Irish doctor put it at 20,000 a couple of weeks ago here. I don't think people realise the effect of any spike in hospital admissions. It's not just people with coronavirus will die, other patients just won't be able to get help.
20 more people in ICU and the whole thing crashes. We don't have the resources.

Yes. Let’s say you need surgery but all the ventilators are being used with COVID19 pts. Well your surgery will be delayed and you may not live long enough for a ventilator to be free to allow your surgery.

Like, seriously, what do you think is going to happen to people with Cystic Fibrosis, Pulmonary Fibrosis, COAD, Heart Failure, AIDS, on immunosuppressants because of transplants, and those receiving chemotherapy when this spreads widely in the community? Those are all high risk conditions and they are quite common relatively speaking.

Funsterdelux

Will she talk to chinese ambassador

Doctor Jimbob

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

It actually isn’t possible to determine that at this stage. There’s been some really interesting epidemiological work done in Washington where they analysed the RNA of the virus in several people and by comparing the RNA and knowing the amount of genomic drift which occurs as the virus infects a new patient they were able to determine just how many strata of infection there had been and to get a sense of how many there might be in the community.

At present there are roughly 70 confirmed cases. But according to the analysis of RNA and genetic drift due to RNA mutating so readily as it doesn’t have the self-correction mechanisms built into DNA they figured there were about 600 cases and about 6 to 7 “strata/generations” of infection in Washington State.

Anyways bottom line the longer it stays spreading the more it’ll mutate and the more likely it’ll mutate enough to create a different strain.

The more strains there are the more likely it’ll stay with us seasonally. There already appear to be two strains, L and S. one is significantly milder in terms of morbidity and mortality than the other so being in a country in which only the mild strain circulates could hugely impact mortality rates for the better.

My sense is that just like Spanish flu and a few others this will run well into 2021 but then won’t be seasonal ... but that depends on so many factors that I can have a high confidence of correctness with that, just my best guess.

You tried to claim swine flu wasn't a pandemic earlier.

Feck right off with your attempts to pretend you know what you're on about.

Computer Science Student

There are at least 40 more cases to be announced over the next two days. Our hospitals are proving not very suited to containing this virus for whatever reason. Many of these unannounced cases represent clusters of 6-10 people in various hospitals around the country.

Nijmegen

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Will she talk to chinese ambassador

Mad that she seems to be ignoring him for an age and a half. Why’d they bring him on to not bring him in?

Snow Garden

295 days until Christmas

Ninthlife

F**k off with your parade talk Miriam

ArchXStanton

Was anything said about the other cases they found today? Seemed at the press conference they just focused on the guy in CUH

Snow Garden

Computer Science Student wrote: »

There are at least 40 more cases to be announced over the next two days. Our hospitals are proving not very suited to containing this virus for whatever reason. Many of these unannounced cases represent clusters of 6-10 people in various hospitals around the country.

You're just a random number generator at this point.

Andrew00

Our hospitals hardly have ventilation. They stink.

Gods Gift

Couples on First Dates sharing food n kissing.

The virus
The virus.

Pseudonym121

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

It actually isn’t possible to determine that at this stage. There’s been some really interesting epidemiological work done in Washington where they analysed the RNA of the virus in several people and by comparing the RNA and knowing the amount of genomic drift which occurs as the virus infects a new patient they were able to determine just how many strata of infection there had been and to get a sense of how many there might be in the community.

At present there are roughly 70 confirmed cases. But according to the analysis of RNA and genetic drift due to RNA mutating so readily as it doesn’t have the self-correction mechanisms built into DNA they figured there were about 600 cases and about 6 to 7 “strata/generations” of infection in Washington State.

Anyways bottom line the longer it stays spreading the more it’ll mutate and the more likely it’ll mutate enough to create a different strain.

The more strains there are the more likely it’ll stay with us seasonally. There already appear to be two strains, L and S. one is significantly milder in terms of morbidity and mortality than the other so being in a country in which only the mild strain circulates could hugely impact mortality rates for the better.

My sense is that just like Spanish flu and a few others this will run well into 2021 but then won’t be seasonal ... but that depends on so many factors that I can have a high confidence of correctness with that, just my best guess.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply.

Cilldara_2000

Nijmegen wrote: »

Mad that she seems to be ignoring him for an age and a half. Why’d they bring him on to not bring him in?

Trust genuinely to cause a diplomatic incident by disrespecting the Chinese.

ChikiChiki

It could actually take out every major A&E in the country.

Quarantine centres should be established.

odyssey06

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Yes. Let’s say you need surgery but all the ventilators are being used with COVID19 pts. Well your surgery will be delayed and you may not live long enough for a ventilator to be free to allow your surgery.

Like, seriously, what do you think is going to happen to people with Cystic Fibrosis, Pulmonary Fibrosis, Heart Failure, AIDS, on immunosuppressants because of transplants, receiving chemotherapy when this spreads widely in the community? Those are all high risk conditions and they are quite common relatively speaking.

Yes. People dont seem to get that the death rate depends on medical treatment.

Beyond a certain number of cases the rate will spike.
It is not a fixed constant.

Loughc

Snow Garden wrote: »

295 days until Christmas

I can get behind this movement. :pac:

Necro

c.p.w.g.w wrote:

The amount of retail staff i've seen in workplaces visible sick(90% of the time cold & chest infections i'd imagine). I myself had been guilty of it in my time in retail...last place didn't have running water in the store, had to use communal facilities.

Its because people don't get sick pay

You need to be out for more than a week to even get a payment from Illness Benefit (6 days to be precise, but they don't pay for Sundays)

I fully expect that 6 day period to be waived and payment increased as this gets worse but right now these are reasons people will continue to work even whilst sick.

branie2

Miriam is talking to the ambassador now

givyjoe

BloodBath wrote: »

Oh shut up. The kind of posts that have been targeted for scare mongering have been just that. Scaremongering worst case scenarios with 0 evidence to back it up or some twitter conspiracy nonsense.

People suggesting 70-100% infection rates and death rates as high as 20% is scaremongering.

People posting facts and giving sound advice have not been targeted in any way.

Stop with your us vs them mentality. It's not about 1upmanship.



Those numbers are bull**** and I'll stand by that. Worst case scenario as in nobody does anything about it and actively tries to spread it maybe which is not going to happen. There is 0 evidence to back up that kind of spread from any region.

Most people even with slight precautions such as no hand to face contact and regular hand sanitation will not get it.

Saying **** like it's going to infect 2/3rd of the worlds population very soon is nothing short of total horse****. Disingenuous scaremongering crap that only makes the situation worse.

You're also using an inaccurate death rate with an inaccurate infection rate to make it sound way worse than it will be. It's bad enough as it is without this kind of nonsense.

I'll take the educated opinions of a consultant doctor over someone who seems to be constantly posting in a fit of a rage, dismissing projections by qualified and relevantly educated people, with baseless assertions. What on earth qualifies you to dismiss any worst case scenario?

igCorcaigh

Ohmeha wrote: »

I work in an Office, in a Financial Services company (who BTW do not give a toss about their staff) and even they had the brain cells at that date to direct any staff members who returned from northern Italy or China to self-isolate for 14 days

Beyond scary that this is our "health service"

My company (big multi) has been very good I must say, regular updates on travel restrictions etc, offering emotional support and all.

Test day tomorrow for remote working.