Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

bennyl10

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Swine flu only infected somewhere between 10 and 20% of the world population.

They’re estimating COVID19 will infect somewhere between 40 to 70% of the worlds population. This is from WHO.

Really 10 to 20% is only about a quarter of the prevalence of infection vs what we are looking at now. Sure you can quibble the details of the definition but swine flu as a pandemic isn’t at all equivalent to what we are facing now.

The WHO are very much not estimating that.
Neither is Britain.

That is absolute worst case scenario. Not a prediction.

There is a huge difference, someone with your supposed background should certainly know this.

Pseudonym121

odyssey06 wrote: »

Yes. People dont seem to get that the death rate depends on medical treatment.

Beyond a certain number of cases the rate will spike.
It is not a fixed constant.

Precisely. Theoretically you could easily see a 1% death rate up to 250 or so people requiring ventilation and then a huge spike when there are no free ventilators for the next wave of severely ill people. It isn’t clear yet but it looks like people in China can require ventilation for up to two weeks.

That gives us a potential to treat 250x26 = 6500 covid19 patient ventilations over the next year. If more people require it than that then they are out of luck.

skimpydoo

KevinK wrote: »

So the American guy thinks North Korea and Iran are lying but all other countries are reporting accurately data... right

Well it looks like we aren't :rolleyes:;)

HopsAndJumps

Snow Garden wrote: »

How do we know the water is deep if it's uncharted?

20% of those infected with need a high concentration of oxygen and medical care for 3-6 weeks. We have about 250 ICU beds. You can fill in the gaps there.

Nijmegen

I love the travel agent CEO giving a very balanced view indeed.....

4068ac1elhodqr

Time for (all) governments to seriously consider rolling out UBI for a 3mth period, with almost immediate effect.

Gods Gift

Cancel st Patrick day altogether.
Only thing anyone I know looked forward to were the club finals. And they’re over.

Gods Gift

Nijmegen wrote: »

I love the travel agent CEO giving a very balanced view indeed.....

Sick and Go.

yosser hughes

amadangomor wrote: »

Testing that a 12 billion euro state of the art plant depends on to keep operating. Goodnight:)

So it's about money? Is that what makes it 'essential'? Could the testing not wait?

CinemaGuy45

skimpydoo wrote: »

I have to go to the Mater next Monday afternoon to get blood tests done. I hope everything will be ok then.

Not being mean or nasty I am wishing everything will be ok too due to travel very soon.

Doctor Jimbob

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Swine flu only infected somewhere between 10 and 20% of the world population.

They’re estimating COVID19 will infect somewhere between 40 to 70% of the worlds population. This is from WHO.

Really 10 to 20% is only about a quarter of the prevalence of infection vs what we are looking at now. Sure you can quibble the details of the definition but swine flu as a pandemic isn’t at all equivalent to what we are facing now.

You can talk about percentages all you like but the fact remains that you're trying to portray yourself as an expert in this area yet you claimed the 2009 pandemic wasn't a pandemic.

Sawduck

TheQuietBeatle wrote: »

What worries me most besides infecting my elderly parents is apparently it causes scarring on the lungs even if cured? That freaked me out as could be life long health implications.

I already have that, it's a pain and I need to use inhalers every now and again but otherwise it hasn't effected me in regards to working or doing activities, I am worried about it getting worse though

Kermit.de.frog

Can we put the Chinese Ambassador in charge of the country temporarily?

Unearthly

Wonder which countries the WHO chief is referring to. EU maybe?

smurgen

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Overreaction all round.

Just think about it.

A doctor returned from Northern Italy and was allowed work in the most overcrowded A&E in the country has now tested for coronavirus putting lots of vulnerable people and their families at risk.

I'm pissed. The media need to be all over that. What an absolute ****ing sham of a failing.

Why are flights left back from Italy? Because Harris has no spine .

fritzelly

bennyl10 wrote: »

The WHO are very much not estimating that.
Neither is Britain.

That is absolute worst case scenario. Not a prediction.

There is a huge difference, someone with your supposed background should certainly know this.

Like in the OP
"You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim"

bottlebrush

Were the parades not cancelled during the foot and mouth?

Nijmegen

Jaysus you really can see the money grabbing selfish nature that we worshiped so much pre 2008 coming to the fore here over the aul parade.

Acosta

Weepsie wrote: »

Eoghan Corry can f3ck right off

What a twat

Ninthlife

Weepsie wrote: »

Eoghan Corry can f3ck right off

Sickening (what he is saying)

Funsterdelux

Weepsie wrote: »

Eoghan Corry can f3ck right off

But we ll lose our culture!

bottlebrush

Weepsie wrote: »

Eoghan Corry can f3ck right off

Eoghans job will be redundant if people stop travelling. Hes a travel writer

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

Swine flu only infected somewhere between 10 and 20% of the world population.

They’re estimating COVID19 will infect somewhere between 40 to 70% of the worlds population. This is from WHO.

Really 10 to 20% is only about a quarter of the prevalence of infection vs what we are looking at now. Sure you can quibble the details of the definition but swine flu as a pandemic isn’t at all equivalent to what we are facing now.

I remember the swine flu hysteria well. The predictions were far more dire than what actually transpired. Does that not tell you something?

owlbethere

Skylar Mammoth Spike wrote: »

Time for (all) governments to seriously consider rolling out UBI for a 3mth period, with almost immediate effect.

What is UBI

babybuilder

bottlebrush wrote: »

Were the parades not cancelled during the foot and mouth?

Yes. Race meetings also.

christy G

Take some honey and lemon in hot water , and few hot whiskeys and wash hands be grand

Nice one Eoghan. Economic life more important than actual lives. Snout in the trough dictating as usual with these people.

Pseudonym121

gabeeg wrote: »

I don't suppose there's any figures out of China on general mortality rates in the last few months?

That might be the stupidest question I've ever asked

It started out at 15% and has fallen hugely to about 1-2% due to a combination of

A. Actually diagnosing more people with it now where those people were undiagnosed before this inflating the mortality rate.

B. They have learned what works in treatment. You have to remember this was a brand new illness no-one has ever seen before a few months ago.

But, bottom line the death rate isn’t the 15% some scaremongers are quoting and it won’t even be the 3.4% that WHO has recently stated - this is due to some statistical issues I won’t waste time going into here.

Bottom line 1 - 2 % of all infected individuals so long as the ventilators have capacity. It’ll increase if and when they are fully occupied obviously.

Nijmegen

The public service looked after but government can’t say how regular joes will be looked after.

namloc1980

bottlebrush wrote: »

Were the parades not cancelled during the foot and mouth?

Yes and that was an animal disease. Priorities like.