Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

RandomName2 wrote: »

You are literally in the at risk group. You should be very, very concerned

Well, I’m not. And I’m sorry, do you know more than my oncologist? Person who has spent over a decade training or some internet randomer - who to listen to? The state of people on this thread.

Jin luk

Developed a bit of a cough this evening,

Not the best time to get this 😅

skimpydoo

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Yes, swine flu hysteria. Tell me - what do you know about the health status pre-infection of the half a million people who died from it? People get truly bamboozled by numbers and analyse little else.

I know a lot of cancer patients and am one. Most of us are immunocompromised and we’re all currently suffering from a severe case of eye rolling because we simply can’t get it up for an virus whose symptoms seem much more manageable than anything we’ve been through in the last few years AND we also recognise that we can’t stop living our lives because of this virus.

I am in the same boat as you.

fritzelly

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Apparently there are? L and S strains? One more lethal than the other?

There is no evidence - preliminary non peer reviewed paper by some Chinese scientists

Along the same lines as the Chinese scientists saying it didn't even start in China due to their findings because they "didn't find" all the other variations in their sample cases but they all exist in the USA cases

RandomName2

babybuilder wrote: »

Agree. So what if it takes a few octogenarians and ill people with it. I think it's the economy and ibec types that are dictating policy on this issue. Add in to the mix a barrel load of department of health incompetence and we are where we are.

If Trump's attitude is anything to go by that is exactly the case.

Stop saying things that affect the Dow Jones. Get on with life. It will impact the economy but taking out old people and people with chronic conditions will be a silver lining.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

skimpydoo wrote: »

I am in the same boat as you.

Interested to hear your perspective. Are you worried or not?

tuxy

namloc1980 wrote: »

It's 30 degrees in Singapore and they've had over 100 cases.

A heavily populated city state with strong business links to China.
It would seem the weather is helping them greatly. Those numbers are low given the circumstances.

Pseudonym121

owlbethere wrote: »

I have a question for you if you don't mind.


Some people wrote here or in the previous thread that they got a bad dose of a heavy cold or flu already. Earlier on this year. Would it have been possible it would have been this Covid-19 doing the rounds already in Ireland? Back in January.

Ok. Defensive Medicine Hat on.

I cannot prove this one way or the other as obviously only repeated testing ( due to the fact that testing kits have a false negative rate ) could prove this one way or the other.

However I think what you are suggesting is highly unlikely and if it had happened we’d have a lot more very ill people now.

You can be absolutely certain that testing of people still
In morgues etc who werent thought to have died from COVID19 has been going on quietly behind the scenes and if positive results were being generated we would know about them. Since we’ve heard nothing I think that probably rules out the December/January theory.

In future if the HSE will fund RNA analysis we will be able to do an analysis which can reasonably accurately trace even community acquired infections back and see roughly when they entered Ireland. This could prove it one way or the other.

Disclaimer. Just an opinion based on science and experience. You are welcome to hold a different view.

Assetbacked

RandomName2 wrote: »

I genuinely couldn't believe it when I initially heard it.

They couldn't even be arsed testing kids coming back from the skiing trips. They said 'let them go back to school'. Utterly, utterly baffling. The only thing I can think is that they must have thought that containment was never going to work, so why bother?

To be honest I think it makes sense because health workers are far more likely to be working with the most vulnerable people to the coronavirus whereas Joe Soap is just touching and licking other Joe Soaps.

Le Bruise

RandomName2 wrote: »

You are literally in the at risk group. You should be very, very concerned

Absolutely no need for that!

Quantum Erasure

Le Bruise wrote: »

Absolutely no need for that!

be grand shur

Kermit.de.frog

The leaderboard of shame

China 80,430
S. Korea 6,088
Italy 3,858
Iran 3,513
Diamond Princess 696
Germany 545
France 423
Japan 361
Spain 282
USA 209
Switzerland 118
Singapore 117
UK 116
Hong Kong 105
Sweden 94
Norway 91
Netherlands 82
Kuwait 58
Bahrain 55
Malaysia 55
Australia 53
Belgium 50
Thailand 47
Taiwan 44
Austria 43
Canada 37
Iraq 35
Iceland 35
Greece 31
India 30
UAE 28
San Marino 21
Denmark 20
Algeria 17
Israel 17
Lebanon 16
Oman 16
Vietnam 16
Ecuador 13
Ireland 13
Czechia 12
Finland 12
Macao 10
Croatia 10
Georgia 9
Portugal 9
Brazil 8
Qatar 8
Palestine 7
Azerbaijan 6
Belarus 6
Mexico 6
Romania 6
Slovenia 6
Estonia 5
Pakistan 5
Saudi Arabia 5
New Zealand 4
Russia 4


A real tussle between France and Germany. The country of bread and wine versus the country of iron and steel.

igCorcaigh

tuxy wrote: »

A heavily populated city state with strong business links to China.
It would seem the weather is helping them greatly. Those numbers are low given the circumstances.

It seems so, regarding the temperature.
Would be a terrible thing if this virus moved through regions like India or Africa.

Let's hope for now it doesn't.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

What did your oncologist say...just a flu

Practice good hand hygiene, avoid snotty, snuffly people but otherwise live your life. Solid advice, IMO.

Andrew00

branie2 wrote: »

I make sure to wash my hands after I come home from town or wherever I've been.

Do people not do this regardless of coronavirus???!

RandomName2

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Well, I’m not. And I’m sorry, do you know more than my oncologist? Person who has spent over a decade training or some internet randomer - who to listen to? The state of people on this thread.

https://www.thelancet.com/
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30149-2/fulltext
https://www.cancer.ie/about-us/news/irish-cancer-society-advice-for-cancer-patients-on-covid-19-coronavirus
https://www.cancerhealth.com/article/who-is-most-susceptible-new-coronavirus
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-is-getting-sick-and-how-sick-a-breakdown-of-coronavirus-risk-by-demographic-factors/

tillyfilly

Brexit/COVID 19
Brits - “oh we want to be able to control our borders to prevent entry to bad things “
Europe - “little England “
Brits -“ sh1te what you mean you can’t close our borders to a virus”
Europe - “imbeciles”
China - “amateurs”

harr

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Well, I’m not. And I’m sorry, do you know more than my oncologist? Person who has spent over a decade training or some internet randomer - who to listen to? The state of people on this thread.

If your immune system is low then yes you are at risk .. and maybe you should get advice form a different oncologist if your current one is telling you any different.
I have a child who’s immune system is compromised and we have been told to keep a very close in him and to limit public gatherings if possible.

jam_mac_jam

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Practice good hand hygiene, avoid snotty, snuffly people but otherwise live your life. Solid advice, IMO.

Seems like good advice for everyone

Rob A. Bank

RandomName2 wrote: »

If Trump's attitude is anything to go by that is exactly the case.

Stop saying things that affect the Dow Jones. Get on with life. It will impact the economy but taking out old people and people with chronic conditions will be a silver lining.

Trump does not seem to realize that he is in the right age group to be a prime target for Covid-19 !

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

RandomName2 wrote: »

https://www.thelancet.com/
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(20)30149-2/fulltext
https://www.cancer.ie/about-us/news/irish-cancer-society-advice-for-cancer-patients-on-covid-19-coronavirus
https://www.cancerhealth.com/article/who-is-most-susceptible-new-coronavirus
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-is-getting-sick-and-how-sick-a-breakdown-of-coronavirus-risk-by-demographic-factors/

Do you think my onc hasn’t read up on it? Will you ever go and shite. I was on the onc day ward today where there wasn’t a hint of panic.

owlbethere

Jin luk wrote: »

Developed a bit of a cough this evening,

Not the best time to get this ��

It's a bit like headlice. Talk about headlice and your head gets itchy. Talk about Corona and you cough and sneeze

Atlantic Dawn

Is it time to withdraw all your money out of the banks so it doesn't get contaminated with other money?

Doctor Jimbob

RandomName2 wrote: »

You are literally in the at risk group. You should be very, very concerned

Yeah. How dare they not feel how they're told. FFS.

Pseudonym121

fritzelly wrote: »

There is no evidence - preliminary non peer reviewed paper by some Chinese scientists

Along the same lines as the Chinese scientists saying it didn't even start in China due to their findings because they "didn't find" all the other variations in their sample cases but they all exist in the USA cases

To be fair at this early stage a lot of data is preliminary. The data on pregnant women comes from a paper with a cohort of 18 women, 19 babies.

I think that it isn’t possible to say their conclusions are wrong especially when we know RNA viruses mutate so readily and the more people they infect and the longer they’re out there the more likely strains are to develop.

COVID19 developing a new strain isn’t something unlikely. It should be expected so when a paper says it has it isn’t exactly saying something surprising has happened.

Of course you’re entitled to tour opinion but every incontrovertible medical truth once started out as a paper awaiting peer review. And of course they could be wrong but are you really saying that over the course of one to two years you don’t expect multiple strains to develop?

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235702627146625027

igCorcaigh

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Trump does not seem to realize that he is in the right age group to be a prime target for Covid-19 !

We live in hope.
Sorry / not sorry.

gmisk

tuxy wrote: »

A heavily populated city state with strong business links to China.
It would seem the weather is helping them greatly. Those numbers are low given the circumstances.

True be interesting to know how many they have tested though

Funsterdelux

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Who wants to rent a holiday home on Valentina Island and spend the next few months riding
this thing out until it blows over.

I also have a caravan with a fixed bed, ideal for self isolation.

"SOUTHERN REGION"

cnocbui

If I haven't miscalculated - always a possibility - Ireland has 16 times the infection rate of the UK, per head of population.