Coronavirus Part IV - 19 cases in ROI, 7 in NI (as of 7 March) *Read warnings in OP*

New Home

New Home wrote: »

I'm saying that they're both highly contagious diseases that couldn't be controlled because effective medication. Back then there weren't that many ICU beds either, but I stand to be corrected. There are way more people around, these days, this is only new, and we don't know what the final outcome will be (with or without the various health authorities around the world "doctoring" the number of deaths so as not to spread panic or for whatever other reason). History will tell.

First of all, COVID-19 is caused by a virus, the black plague was caused by bacteria.

Secondly, COVID-19 is spread by aerosol transmission and contact. The black plague was fed by ticks who bit hosts.

Thirdly, the black plague can be septicaemic as well as pneumonic, no evidence that there is a septicaemic aspect to COVID-19.

They aren't comparable. The only thing I would agree with you is that there wasn't ICUs in the 1300s.

Supergurrier

What are the symptoms of the kung flu ?

antodeco

Drumpot wrote: »

The evidence would suggest not. The simple question would be why it’s taken so long to kick off in Ireland? If it’s been around since Christmas we should be worse then Wuhan.

If nobody was ever tested, we would just assume it's that cold/flu. If we could go back on time and test it, who knows.

Ursabear

smelly sock wrote: »

Surely given the potential expsure based on the numbers its all the more reason to shut it down.

I work nearby, get the Luas with plenty of students , buy coffee in the same cafes and lunches too ... I know I'm over reacting but it does worry me, trinity is so central in the city

laurah591

SmallTeapot wrote: »

Does anyone have a recommendation for a reliable website which displays live numbers for prevalence, recovery, death, etc.?

I recall one was posted in thread #2, but I didn’t make note of it at the time...

Thanks

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk
Both v good resources

Drumpot

smelly sock wrote: »

Who goes to the docs for a cough or a cold like illness though? Bugs do the rounds.

antodeco wrote: »

If nobody was ever tested, we would just assume it's that cold/flu. If we could go back on time and test it, who knows.

There would of been a massive upswing in cases and deaths which would be a massive red flag. At this stage they would be able to join the dots on that.

frillyleaf

Pseudonym121 wrote: »

I know, I was just trying to explain my thinking at the time - not to you per se but the others. Fruitless I’m sure.

What should we be doing at this stage in your opinion? Should there be travel restrictions at least or does that matter ?

Blueshoe

smelly sock wrote: »

Stocked up on about 3 months of pastas, Rice, saices etc. Also a bit of frozen stuffs and bread mixes. I really dont like how this could go. If you need to self isolate you will need supplies.

I would just go to the shop. Let's call a spade a spade. If I need bread I'm going to go buy some .

RandomName2

igCorcaigh wrote: »

We will be approaching the point soon, where the daily numbers become meaningless.

Just be sensible and follow the recommended advice.

This is not the plague people, just be careful on how you go about your day.

I would much prefer plague. Plague is containable, and can be potentially treated with antibiotics.

skimpydoo

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Do! Thank you.

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fritzelly

tillyfilly wrote: »

USA ARMY PREPARING FOR 3 MILLION DEATHS FROM CORONAVIRUS

https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-army-preparing-for-3-million-deaths-from-coronavirus/

Numbers seems a bit extreme to me , but this is worse case for the USA

That guy is a nutcase

Beasty

smelly sock wrote: »

Who goes to the docs for a cough or a cold like illness though? Bugs do the rounds.

Yes but this is so virulent others would have picked it up very easily. Something like this cannot remain unnoticed for over 2 months. We would have had a lot of serious cases and probably deaths by now.

CinemaGuy45

tillyfilly wrote: »

USA ARMY PREPARING FOR 3 MILLION DEATHS FROM CORONAVIRUS

https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-army-preparing-for-3-million-deaths-from-coronavirus/

Numbers seems a bit extreme to me , but this is worse case for the USA

Infowars really?

Alex Jones gives crap a bad name.

RandomName2

Interesting post by WHO chief

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235668717154992130

sullivlo

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Just floor 4

What a joke. Anywhere else and it would be shut down totally

In a small world situation...

Floor 4 of tbsi is where Luke O'Neill (who has been quoted many times on this thread) has his lab, so there is a chance that it is one of his staff who has contracted it.

Also, the building has 10 floors and houses hundreds of scientists, and there is only one set of lifts. Lots of equipment is shared and there are many, many places where viruses could survive and thrive.

I used to work in tbsi and I have friends that still do. Interesting times ahead.

JanuarySnowstor

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

I too am wondering has this virus been around since Christmas. I know people who had the flu jab and yet still got very sick a few weeks back..

Had the flu jab last Oct and probably got a milder version of this after Christmas and into New Year. Completely listless for a couple of days and lost appetite as well. Chesty tickly cough went on for around 3 weeks after that. Had a stent put in the ticker in 2015 and am on meds since. History of heart disease in the family so am probably in an 'at risk' group for this bloody thing.

Computer Science Student

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Infowars really?

Alex Jones gives crap a bad name.

He's been spot on about a lot of things in the past

smelly sock

Blueshoe wrote: »

I would just go to the shop. Let's call a spade a spade. If I need bread I'm going to go buy some .

I get you. But potentially spread the virus?

skimpydoo

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Infowars really?

Alex Jones gives crap a bad name.

He even has Gemma O'Doherty tweets on his website.

fritzelly

RandomName2 wrote: »

Interesting post by WHO chief

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235668717154992130

He starts to sound more like Greta with every passing day
Someone broke his window of opportunity and he's not happy

Drumpot

RandomName2 wrote: »

I would much prefer plague. Plague is containable, and can be potentially treated with antibiotics.

Supposedly WHO said earlier that this is easier to stop spread then the flu.

“We don’t even talk about containment for seasonal flu — it’s just not possible,” Tedros said. “But it is possible for Covid-19. We don’t do contact-tracing for seasonal flu — but countries should do it for Covid-19, because it will prevent infections and save lives. Containment is possible.”

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-coronavirus-different-than-influenza-can-be-contained/

Again, I have doctor John to thank for this information. Also seems like if this does get very bad we may be able to decimate the disease by staying indoors for a month or two, which in a weird way is kind of comforting.

wakka12

28 new cases in Stockholm, Sweden
https://www.svd.se/28-nya-fall-av-corona-i-stockholm

31 new cases in Washington, US
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus

Italy still mass exporting..3 cases in Slovenia, 5 in Georgia, 2 in Estonia all related to travel in Italy

In California, 4 new cases in Los Angeles and 6 more in San Jose

sullivlo

smelly sock wrote: »

Who goes to the docs for a cough or a cold like illness though? Bugs do the rounds.

Before Christmas I had the flu. I have asthma. The doctor gave me tamiflu. The flu symptoms cleared but I started coughing up green goo that didn't clear, so I went back to the doctor and she gave me an antibiotic. That cleared the bacterial infection.

CinemaGuy45

Computer Science Student wrote: »

He's been spot on about a lot of things in the past

Yes like Hollywood is owned by the Arabs.:D

He is an oxygen thief.

tuxy

Computer Science Student wrote: »

He's been spot on about a lot of things in the past

Sandy hook victims families was my favourite one!

dePeatrick

Skylar Mammoth Spike wrote: »

Not sure but H1N1 wasn't that bad, it likely didn't have a (COVID19) 3.4% fatality rate. Maybe a different type of flu (symptoms and complications not as bad)?


Know a couple of people that had it, much the same as the standard Inf A/B. About 2 weeks out of action, then back to normal.

I had it, I never want to go through that again, I ended up on my hands and knees in a pool of my own vomit violently dry retching...I thought 'This is it' Never want that or anything even close to it again, I was as weak as a kitten for weeks afterwards.

fritzelly

Drumpot wrote: »

Supposedly WHO said earlier that this is easier to stop spread then the flu.

“We don’t even talk about containment for seasonal flu — it’s just not possible,” Tedros said. “But it is possible for Covid-19. We don’t do contact-tracing for seasonal flu — but countries should do it for Covid-19, because it will prevent infections and save lives. Containment is possible.”

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/03/who-coronavirus-different-than-influenza-can-be-contained/

Again, I have doctor John to thank for this information. Also seems like if this does get very bad we may be able to decimate the disease by staying indoors for a month or two, which in a weird way is kind of comforting.

Maybe, just maybe, if he stopped this passive admiration of China earlier on then the world might have taken more notice
But no it was all heaping praise on China for what they did meanwhile it was spreading around the world like wildfire

New Home

Deleted User wrote: »

First of all, COVID-19 is caused by a virus, the black plague was caused by bacteria.

Secondly, COVID-19 is spread by aerosol transmission and contact. The black plague was fed by ticks who bit hosts.

Thirdly, the black plague can be septicaemic as well as pneumonic, no evidence that there is a septicaemic aspect to COVID-19.

They aren't comparable. The only thing I would agree with you is that there wasn't ICUs in the 1300s.

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/novel-coronavirus-china/questions-answers
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext

RandomName2

Drumpot wrote: »

Again, I have doctor John to thank for this information. Also seems like if this does get very bad we may be able to decimate the disease by staying indoors for a month or two, which in a weird way is kind of comforting.

This is what China seems to be doing, but it is pulling out all the stops to do that. I really don't see us as having the commitment tbh.

You still have people saying that trying to contain it is a hysterical overreaction. The HSE doesn't seem to particularly care.

CinemaGuy45

fritzelly wrote: »

That guy is a nutcase

This guy is well paid the only nutcases are those who believe him.