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National broadband plan did F all for FG

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  • 05-03-2020 4:04pm
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    Long_Wave
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    It's interesting how nobody thanked FG at the general election for signing up to the nbp. Infant I imagine if they had scrapped going ahead with the whole thing, people would be saying that's why Sean Kyne lost his seat and that's why they didn't win a seat in Tipperary etc etc etc


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    Floppybits
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    Long_Wave wrote: »
    It's interesting how nobody thanked FG at the general election for signing up to the nbp. Infant I imagine if they had scrapped going ahead with the whole thing, people would be saying that's why Sean Kyne lost his seat and that's why they didn't win a seat in Tipperary etc etc etc

    They didn't get thanked for a lot of things and there are reasons for that most notably how they think they are better than everyone else.


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    James Brown
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    Long_Wave wrote: »
    It's interesting how nobody thanked FG at the general election for signing up to the nbp. Infant I imagine if they had scrapped going ahead with the whole thing, people would be saying that's why Sean Kyne lost his seat and that's why they didn't win a seat in Tipperary etc etc etc

    With the communications minister going on dinner dates and lunches with a bidder and Denis O'Brien's consortium getting the contract, I think they knew better than to mention it.
    I expect we'll hear more about it although maybe not in a manner FG might like.


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    Balf
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    You might even ask what is it that you'd need to do for rural Ireland for them to notice or care.

    I mean, they elect a load of independents who's influence on events must be close to zero. And ignore the folk investing literally billions in their areas. With a crackpot commitment to connect every building.

    On the other side, can anyone explain what either or both instances of Healy-Rae have achieved for Kerry, and how their seats in the national parliament helped in that respect?


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    OneEightSeven
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    They massively overestimated the demand for broadband. Eir rolled out fibre to 300k homes and only 1 in 6 took it up. The saddest part about the NBP is urban taxpayers allow this to happen. Urban Eir and ESB customers already subsidise many of the wooden poles feeding one-off houses, which is why Ireland is the most expensive country for electricity and one of the most expensive for broadband. There are about 800k one-off premises in the country, around 500k of them have their phone/broadband and ESB bills subsidised by people living in housing estates/urban areas.

    People living in one-off houses shouldn't have their services subsidised. We urban-dwellers pay more money per square meter for our homes as land in rural areas is much cheaper. With 57% of this country's tax revenue coming from Dublin, but Dublin making up only 28% of the population, it's not fair we should have to subsidise their broadband when ours isn't subsidised, just because they built a cheap bungalow in the backarse of nowhere in the 1970s - 1990s and can't get internet.

    We are a nation of stupids when it comes to infrastructure and it makes me feel embarrassed to be Irish. Most countries restrict one-off housing, but it wasn't until Eir dropped out of the NBP in 2017 when we decided to ban them.


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    RandomViewer
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    OneEightSeven wrote: »
    They massively overestimated the demand for broadband. Eir rolled out fibre to 300k homes and only 1 in 6 took it up. The saddest part about the NBP is urban taxpayers allow this to happen. Urban Eir and ESB customers already subsidise many of the wooden poles feeding one-off houses, which is why Ireland is the most expensive country for electricity and one of the most expensive for broadband. There are about 800k one-off premises in the country, around 500k of them have their phone/broadband and ESB bills subsidised by people living in housing estates/urban areas.

    People living in one-off houses shouldn't have their services subsidised. We urban-dwellers pay more money per square meter for our homes as land in rural areas is much cheaper. With 57% of this country's tax revenue coming from Dublin, but Dublin making up only 28% of the population, it's not fair we should have to subsidise their broadband when ours isn't subsidised, just because they built a cheap bungalow in the backarse of nowhere in the 1970s - 1990s and can't get internet.

    We are a nation of stupids when it comes to infrastructure and it makes me feel embarrassed to be Irish. Most countries restrict one-off housing, but it wasn't until Eir dropped out of the NBP in 2017 when we decided to ban them.
    Many wind turbines or power stations in Dublin?


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