Has Corona Virus/CoVid 19 been here for months?

Foggy Jew

I know loads of people who have been sick since before Christmas with really bad coughs & ‘flu-like symptoms.
Is it possible that this virus has been affecting Irish people for months now without ever having been diagnosed as corona virus?

irishgeo

Foggy Jew wrote: »

I know loads of people who have been sick since before Christmas with really bad coughs & ‘flu-like symptoms.
Is it possible that this virus has been affecting Irish people for months now without ever having been diagnosed as corona virus?

Possibly as there was/is a v1 . This strain is v2.

The first one was milder.

McMurphy

Foggy Jew wrote: »

I know loads of people who have been sick since before Christmas with really bad coughs & ‘flu-like symptoms.
Is it possible that this virus has been affecting Irish people for months now without ever having been diagnosed as corona virus?

It's feasible I suppose, but we will probably never know.

Personally i had a bastard of a cough just before Christmas, didn't hang around long though, a two day thing tops, but it really had me badly out of kilter wouldn't have been fit to walk the dogs even.

The strange thing is that in about a week and a half later, and just out of nowhere I was hit with almost the same thing - this time accompanied with an extremely runny nose that was contributing to my cough big time.

I am someone who is rarely ever sick, it's like once in a 10 year thing for me, but to have a relapse like that is something I never experienced before.

Shellzzz

Could have very well been.....sore throats,coughs in Dec/Jan would be no cause for alarm as its "The Season" for it!Going forward I hope we all, mild cold or otherwise remain acutely aware of the importance of handwashing etc

NIMAN

Perhaps a lot of people just had the seasonal flu this year?

I know I had a bad throat for 8 weeks on and off, and it was really sore at times. No cough.
I know plenty of work colleagues who spent most of Dec and Jan coughing.


I think a lot of people say they have flu when they don't. If you get a bad flu you know about it.

Sleeper12

Foggy Jew wrote:

I know loads of people who have been sick since before Christmas with really bad coughs & ‘flu-like symptoms. Is it possible that this virus has been affecting Irish people for months now without ever having been diagnosed as corona virus?

Maybe they had the flu?

Harry Palmr

Seasonal winter flu? The OP may have heard of it (which wasn't a bad one this year btw)

Beanybabog

I thought this too. And when I saw it posted than a post-mortem showed a person died of (or at least had it when they died) Coronavirus prior to it being identified in that country I thought maybe it’s a real possibility. It would
Probably be a good thing. Would mean it’s been spreading under the radar, containment is no longer possible but people got through it and the death rate would be much lower because none of those cases are counted

Westernyelp

May have been Covid-18

ressem

No.

There are samples of the viruses encountered by health professionals sent for genetic testing.

The flu's and colds results for Europe are
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/weekly-influenza-update-week-5-february-2020

The one predominant in Ireland that was causing bother was an AH3 variant, a different strain of a known family.


This Covid-19's a different type of respiratory virus not previously encountered, and not a descendant of SARS-COV-1.

And no again.
The first Sars-COV-1 encountered in 2003 was not milder. It was much more deadly to people. 10% death rate,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus

Feisar

NIMAN wrote: »

Perhaps a lot of people just had the seasonal flu this year?

I know I had a bad throat for 8 weeks on and off, and it was really sore at times. No cough.
I know plenty of work colleagues who spent most of Dec and Jan coughing.


I think a lot of people say they have flu when they don't. If you get a bad flu you know about it.

So true, most of the time people have a bad cold. The flu floors you.

dxhound2005

Foggy Jew wrote: »

I know loads of people who have been sick since before Christmas with really bad coughs & ‘flu-like symptoms.
Is it possible that this virus has been affecting Irish people for months now without ever having been diagnosed as corona virus?

It probably started around Christmas 2018. I know loads of people who had coughs that time.

Sleeper12

ressem wrote:

And no again. The first Sars-COV-1 encountered in 2003 was not milder. It was much more deadly to people. 10% death rate,

Higher death rate but less contagious isn't it? This being more contagious & with the revised death rate of 3.4 percent could make this a worse virus couldn't it?

One of the most interesting things about this strain is that it barely touches kids. In a lot of cases under 18s with the virus have little more than mild cold symptoms.

dxhound2005

I wouldn't encourage this theory, or the rest of the world might start calling it the Irish Flu.

NIMAN

Feisar wrote: »

So true, most of the time people have a bad cold. The flu floors you.

Yip, often you'd have work colleagues say "I'm rotten with the flu", when they have a few sniffles or a runny nose.

I have only ever had the flu once, and I was beat for a week. Could hardly make it out of bed. Fever, cold sweats, headaches, body felt like I'd got a battering.

Foggy Jew

Feisar wrote: »

So true, most of the time people have a bad cold. The flu floors you.

My personal yardstick is this:
I’m lying in bed in my bungalow. Feeling wretched. Snottery, sneezy & wheezy. A €50 note flutters past my window. If I’m able to get out of bed to chase it, I have a cold. If not, I have a flu.
Stay well everybody & keep washing your hands.

Sleeper12

Foggy Jew wrote:

My personal yardstick is this: I’m lying in bed in my bungalow. Feeling wretched. Snottery, sneezy & wheezy. A €50 note flutters past my window. If I’m able to get out of bed to chase it, I have a cold. If not, I have a flu. Stay well everybody & keep washing your hands.

So now you are hallucinating from the flu too

dxhound2005

Foggy Jew wrote: »

My personal yardstick is this:
I’m lying in bed in my bungalow. Feeling wretched. Snottery, sneezy & wheezy. A €50 note flutters past my window. If I’m able to get out of bed to chase it, I have a cold. If not, I have a flu.
Stay well everybody & keep washing your hands.

I wouldn't get out of bed for anything less that 10K.

Foggy Jew

Visions of fiftyers fluttering by my bedroom window. Dozens of them. Oh my!!

Beasty

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